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Created by: JeffGorton
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 6, 2023
Published: Apr. 6, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Habs draft Will Smith and Mikhail Gulyayev

Note for the Columbus trade, Habs could add a Mysak or Ylonen type player
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,500,000
8$8,250,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Xhekaj, Arber
Additional Details:
Kinda like the Romanov trade
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kostenko, Dmitri [Reserve List]
  3. Mesar, Filip
  4. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  5. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
4.
PHI
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Montembeault, Samuel
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
This seems like such a Philly move
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the SJS
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$71,193,166$1,170,000$1,252,500$11,306,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$8,250,000$8,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2

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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Take out Kostenko and add Beck.
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Take out Kostenko and add Beck.


Dubois isnt getting 3 1st round picks worth of value
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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Xhekaj is not worth a firsttears of joy
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Dubois isnt getting 3 1st round picks worth of value


??? No one is asking for 3 first round picks of value.
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
??? No one is asking for 3 first round picks of value.


the 2023 1st
Mesar
Beck, Dvorak and 4th

Thats 3 1st rounders in value
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
??? No one is asking for 3 first round picks of value.


I think his point is, Mesar was a 1st round pick (26th I believe) the 2023 Florida pick is a 1st round pick and Beck + Dvorak + 4th is about the same as a 1st value wise = 3 1st round picks
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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Quoting: RonaldBilius
Xhekaj is not worth a firsttears of joy


No one thought Romanov was worth the 13th pick, or Chiarot a unprotected 1st but they happened. And its reported that the Jackets are willing to move that pick (24th overall)
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
the 2023 1st
Mesar
Beck, Dvorak and 4th

Thats 3 1st rounders in value


Some troll's (I mean people) can't do math, it's too hard for them to grasp.
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I think his point is, Mesar was a 1st round pick (26th I believe) the 2023 Florida pick is a 1st round pick and Beck + Dvorak + 4th is about the same as a 1st value wise = 3 1st round picks


I used the LA pick for the Dubois trade, the Fla one went to Philly but yeah exactly that
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.
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I used the LA pick for the Dubois trade, the Fla one went to Philly but yeah exactly that


My bad lol
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
the 2023 1st
Mesar
Beck, Dvorak and 4th

Thats 3 1st rounders in value


No it's not. You can't just randomly assign values to your players and pass it off as fact.

1st is a 1st

Mesar is a B prospect. No one is giving you a 1st for him and he may never come to the NHL. Maybe has the value of a 2nd.

Beck is a B prospect, 2nd round pick. Valued as 2nd round pick.

Dvorak is an overpaid, injured bottom sixer. Adds zero value on the trade for the Jets. Mesar would be compensation for taking Dvorak's contract. Or you can keep Mesar and Dvorak, but would need to add another B prospect or pick.

4th is a 4th. Basically nothing.

So, it's a first, a decent B prospect and some unneeded filler. Nowhere close to 3 1sts in value.
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
No it's not. You can't just randomly assign values to your players and pass it off as fact.

1st is a 1st

Mesar is a B prospect. No one is giving you a 1st for him and he may never come to the NHL. Maybe has the value of a 2nd.

Beck is a B prospect, 2nd round pick. Valued as 2nd round pick.

Dvorak is an overpaid, injured bottom sixer. Adds zero value on the trade for the Jets. Mesar would be compensation for taking Dvorak's contract. Or you can keep Mesar and Dvorak, but would need to add another B prospect or pick.

4th is a 4th. Basically nothing.

So, it's a first, a decent B prospect and some unneeded filler. Nowhere close to 3 1sts in value.


Yes a prospect drafted last year in the 1st round is no longer worth a 1st rounder. Nils Lundkvist got a 1st and he was like 3 years out of his draft year.

Beck is worth a 2nd rounder but Dvorak is worth a 3rd and add a 4th to that, thats a 1st rounder

And Considering Dubois is at most worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd (Habs offersheet between 6.3 and 8.4 million), getting 2 first rounders and extra is already too much
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.
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Chuck Fletcher is not GM anymore. DB said its a rebuild. Flyers aren't trading for an aging Anderson/.
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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Yes a prospect drafted last year in the 1st round is no longer worth a 1st rounder. Nils Lundkvist got a 1st and he was like 3 years out of his draft year.

Beck is worth a 2nd rounder but Dvorak is worth a 3rd and add a 4th to that, thats a 1st rounder

And Considering Dubois is at most worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd (Habs offersheet between 6.3 and 8.4 million), getting 2 first rounders and extra is already too much


Those players might be worth that to you, but no other team would value them as such. The Jets will just trade PLD elsewhere for pieces they need and want.
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Levig01
Chuck Fletcher is not GM anymore. DB said its a rebuild. Flyers aren't trading for an aging Anderson/.


I actually forgot about that, i guess remove Andy and add Riley Kidney or Owen Beck
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Yes a prospect drafted last year in the 1st round is no longer worth a 1st rounder. Nils Lundkvist got a 1st and he was like 3 years out of his draft year.

Beck is worth a 2nd rounder but Dvorak is worth a 3rd and add a 4th to that, thats a 1st rounder

And Considering Dubois is at most worth a 1st, 2nd and 3rd (Habs offersheet between 6.3 and 8.4 million), getting 2 first rounders and extra is already too much


Boy would I ever love to have that unprotected 1st from MTL...
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Those players might be worth that to you, but no other team would value them as such. The Jets will just trade PLD elsewhere for pieces they need and want.


You do realize the Habs can outright force the jets to trade to them with a very easy offersheet which Dubois would sign and get extended right after
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Rooney
Boy would I ever love to have that unprotected 1st from MTL...


2024 draft is not great unless its top 5 and the Habs with Dubois are not that bad
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
No it's not. You can't just randomly assign values to your players and pass it off as fact.

1st is a 1st

Mesar is a B prospect. No one is giving you a 1st for him and he may never come to the NHL. Maybe has the value of a 2nd.

Beck is a B prospect, 2nd round pick. Valued as 2nd round pick.

Dvorak is an overpaid, injured bottom sixer. Adds zero value on the trade for the Jets. Mesar would be compensation for taking Dvorak's contract. Or you can keep Mesar and Dvorak, but would need to add another B prospect or pick.

4th is a 4th. Basically nothing.

So, it's a first, a decent B prospect and some unneeded filler. Nowhere close to 3 1sts in value.


If Beck and Mesar have 2nd rounder value, don’t trade for them.

Based on how biaised you are, Lambert and Lucius are clearly A prospect then! tears of joy
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
No it's not. You can't just randomly assign values to your players and pass it off as fact.

1st is a 1st

Mesar is a B prospect. No one is giving you a 1st for him and he may never come to the NHL. Maybe has the value of a 2nd.

Beck is a B prospect, 2nd round pick. Valued as 2nd round pick.

Dvorak is an overpaid, injured bottom sixer. Adds zero value on the trade for the Jets. Mesar would be compensation for taking Dvorak's contract. Or you can keep Mesar and Dvorak, but would need to add another B prospect or pick.

4th is a 4th. Basically nothing.

So, it's a first, a decent B prospect and some unneeded filler. Nowhere close to 3 1sts in value.


And that is why you know nothing about hockey! Mesar is already in NA and has signed his ELC, so his value is equal to that of Lambert which is a late 1st, You say we can't assign values to our players then you turn right around and say Mesar has little value and Dvorak has no value cause you know you are wrong and just can't admit it. By your own proclamation Perfetti has no value cause he is injured and Lambert has no value cause he is a B prospect.

Prospects drafted in the 1st round last year are still 1st round draft picks this year, Mesar = 1st

Dvorak still has trade value of a 2nd + 3rd or 2 2nd's, Beck's value is also a 2nd this alone actually = 1st + 2nd then add the 4th.
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
2024 draft is not great unless its top 5 and the Habs with Dubois are not that bad


Fair, but I'd still be okay if it does end up going the offer sheet route...we shall see though. Might be smarter to move him at the deadline but who knows.
Apr. 6, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
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habs have 0 motivation to sell so low on kovacevic. A reliable, super cheap 3rd pairing RD. Wideman takes a one way trip to laval before that deal happens.
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Apr. 6, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
You do realize the Habs can outright force the jets to trade to them with a very easy offersheet which Dubois would sign and get extended right after


You can't actually extend him until Jan 1st if the OS goes unmatched, but it also means the Jets can't trade him at the deadline if they do match
Apr. 6, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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Habs fans don't massively overvalue any player they currently own the rights to challenge (impossible)
Apr. 6, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Habs fans don't massively overvalue any player they currently own the rights to challenge (impossible)


Non Habs fans thinking everyone on the Habs isnt total garbage challenge (Impossible)
 
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