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if Detroit wants the cat pay up

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2023
Published: Apr. 19, 2023
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Detroit fans thinking they can get cat for pennys, guys, it's a divisional rival, pay up
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
3$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
3$1,300,000
3$2,750,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
2$1,300,000
3$3,000,000
1$1,750,000
1$1,750,000
Trades
1.
2.
OTT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. Perron, David
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
3.
OTT
  1. 2024 5th round pick (CAR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the TBL
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Logo of the CAR
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,799,880$0$1,850,000$700,120
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C
RFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$1,750,000$1,750,000
G
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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Pay more than OTT did for rights only? tears of joy
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Pay more than OTT did for rights only? tears of joy


Nah man you gotta understand; he's more expensive than he was when they traded for him because he got worse and needs to get paid more.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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So, let's get this right.

Last year, with a contract and after a 40 goal year, Cat got the 7th overall pick, a second and a third. Now, after a down year and no contract in place - you think Detroit will give up the 9th overall pick, a top 6 winger they just signed, a very good rookie they've drafted and developed AND a top 10 second rounder?
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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The idea that Detroit should have to pay more for him than Ottawa did last year is hilarious.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
So, let's get this right.

Last year, with a contract and after a 40 goal year, Cat got the 7th overall pick, a second and a third. Now, after a down year and no contract in place - you think Detroit will give up the 9th overall pick, a top 6 winger they just signed, a very good rookie they've drafted and developed AND a top 10 second rounder?


Plus, 9oa in 2023 is likely the same or better than 7oa in 2022...
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Pay more than OTT did for rights only? tears of joy


to be fair, it's likely going to be #9 & #41 as opposed to #7/#39, but adding in Berggren and Perron is a bit much. If Berggren comes over, the 2nd becomes a lesser pick. and if there's cap going back it's wayyyy more likely to be someone like Robby Fabbri than Perron, imo.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Intermediate party here, that is a little rich for Debrincat after the season he’s had, and he is refusing to sign in OTT so that gives him less power, I think that if you downgrade the 1st to the NYI pick (~17OA) and drop Berggren you’ll be looking a little closer. Don’t forget, when they acquire him he is at risk for an offer sheet and that’s going to be late picks, so keep that in mind
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Plus, 9oa in 2023 is likely the same or better than 7oa in 2022...


True
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
The idea that Detroit should have to pay more for him than Ottawa did last year is hilarious.


Lenny my man
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Nah man you gotta understand; he's more expensive than he was when they traded for him because he got worse and needs to get paid more.


exactly, lol
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Pay more than OTT did for rights only? tears of joy


yup
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: dannibalcorpse
to be fair, it's likely going to be #9 & #41 as opposed to #7/#39, but adding in Berggren and Perron is a bit much. If Berggren comes over, the 2nd becomes a lesser pick. and if there's cap going back it's wayyyy more likely to be someone like Robby Fabbri than Perron, imo.


7OA in last year's draft (Korchinski) had a very similar statline to Dragicevic (proj. late 1st). This year's draft is much better than last years.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
7OA in last year's draft (Korchinski) had a very similar statline to Dragicevic (proj. late 1st). This year's draft is much better than last years.


I would say that the Islanders pick this year is close to #7-#10 last year.
Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I would say that the Islanders pick this year is close to #7-#10 last year.


For sure. The only top 5 prospect from that draft that holds a candle to the top 5 is Logan Cooley. This draft is absolutely bonkers.
Apr. 19, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit arguably passes, if Cat wants to come home in 2024. We can just sign him for free. And not give up any assets for him.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
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Ottawa adds josh Norris to wings trade
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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The absolute max I would do is the isles pick, a mid round pick, and one of our B level LD prospects. Cause like some other people said if he really wants to come here he could just sign in 2024
Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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Zero chance in hell that Detroit's 9th overall pick is in play for Alex DeBrincat. Islanders 18th pick Vancouvers 43rd pick and Perron is the best you're going to get.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Zero chance in hell that Detroit's 9th overall pick is in play for Alex DeBrincat. Islanders 18th pick Vancouvers 43rd pick and Perron is the best you're going to get.


then your going to get Cat,
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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yes Cat is worth more than OTT paid for him last year as EVERYONE, including the aliens on mars said OTT fleeced CHI when they traded Cat, also if DET wants to trade for him it will cost a lot more since DET is a DIVISIONAL Rival in a similar position as OTT, if DET wants Cat they are going to have to overpay+++
Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Zero chance in hell that Detroit's 9th overall pick is in play for Alex DeBrincat. Islanders 18th pick Vancouvers 43rd pick and Perron is the best you're going to get.


This is what it will take , the posters offer is too rich
Apr. 19, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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yes Cat is worth more than OTT paid for him last year as EVERYONE, including the aliens on mars said OTT fleeced CHI when they traded Cat, also if DET wants to trade for him it will cost a lot more since DET is a DIVISIONAL Rival in a similar position as OTT, if DET wants Cat they are going to have to overpay+++


I'm sure there is not an ounce of coping in this statement.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.
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This is what it will take , the posters offer is too rich


Yeah Detroit isn't paying more for one x $9,000,000 of DeBrincat. No way are we paying more than what Ottawa paid for two years of DeBrincat not one.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.
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Quoting: athrin
then your going to get Cat,


Pretty sure you meant we're not going to get Cat, But since it's up to Cat where he ultimately plays long term, I like our odds quite a bit.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Yeah Detroit isn't paying more for one x $9,000,000 of DeBrincat. No way are we paying more than what Ottawa paid for two years of DeBrincat not one.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Yeah Detroit isn't paying more for one x $9,000,000 of DeBrincat. No way are we paying more than what Ottawa paid for two years of DeBrincat not one.


if Yzerman trades for him I would think he wants him longer term & if he really wants to play in Detroit he will be reasonable in his AAV ask.
GMs need to smarten up and stop giving out backend loaded contracts. Meier and ADB QO are ridiculous.
I also do not believe in 8 year term contracts, it’s a coin flip if you get value in the long run. There are several teams against the cap because they are carrying deals that are dead weight. NMC should also only be given to superstars and older players.
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