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Jokiharju has exactly 3 goals in each of his last 3 seasons and never eclipsed 20 points. Who exactly knows him as an "offensive d-man" and how quickly can I rip that GM off senseless?

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.

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VERY reasonable survey and assessment.

I'd like to reinforce your implied statement that the proffered trade values are MERE SUGGESTIONS.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.

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Target carlo all you want, he’s not available……

….definitely not available for that trash.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.

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Carlo I’d love if he didn’t have the concussions so that really scares me

Andersson is very very likely more expensive than we should be paying for one right now

Jokiharu is a no for me — I don’t think he is good enough offensively or defensively for us

I’d love Peeke for Cam’s partner, but you already know that

Marino I don’t have an opinion on as of right now

Ristolainen I’m out on, never been a fan of him and especially pass with that contract attached

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.

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The way Calgary fans talk about andersson it would be McTavish plus Drysdale plus terry

Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

The way Calgary fans talk about andersson it would be McTavish plus Drysdale plus terry

He would be VERY expensive. I'm not sure the cost but Anaheim fans won't like it.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.

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Devils are looking for picks. Would have to be hockey trade if we extended Severson.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.

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Based solely on the player and contract and not trade value, I’d rank my wants as Marino, Andersson, Severson, Dumba, Peeke and Carlo. Joki and Risto I’d pass on.

That said the only guy I’d trade a pretty penny for is Marino tho. And then 5 years ~5.5M for Severson or Dumba.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.

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Marino will cost you more than you're willing to pay. I'd say go after Severson but he's either going home or going to chase a cup.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 5:36 p.m.

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The Sabres likely need another righty before they move jokiharju, but I'm all for it. Would like to make our zone a less comfortable place for the other team. I don't think jokiharju is horrible, but he's an undersized (he might be 6 feet tall, but he's definitely small enough that he gets handled by bigger forwards) smooth skating, puck mover- but he doesn't add offense, he doesn't stand out in his own zone, and he will absolutely get muscled at times.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.

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Quoting: Stadel

Jokiharju has exactly 3 goals in each of his last 3 seasons and never eclipsed 20 points. Who exactly knows him as an "offensive d-man" and how quickly can I rip that GM off senseless?

Was known for it in the lower leagues, its how he attracted attention to get drafted, obviously hasn't shown it since.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Was known for it in the lower leagues, its how he attracted attention to get drafted, obviously hasn't shown it since.

Fair enough. Dont think id trade for him on that premise though. 273 games later, he is what he is.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Stadel

Fair enough. Dont think id trade for him on that premise though. 273 games later, he is what he is.

I wouldn't be looking to acquire him as an offensive D man, and he is rather far down the pecking order for targets, but he fits the age range and he has been getting better at the defensive side of things as he grows. He'll never be a shutdown D guy but he comes across as a serviceable minute muncher that isn't a total liability in his own end.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

Yeah he's probably fine for the third pair, he got way more minutes than he shouldve cause the 3rd pair in BUF wqs largely un-useable in the 3rd period.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.

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I mean….cmon bud. This is just obvious. There’s no way to think this offer is reasonable. It’s a F-.

let see, Boston has no real talent in the pipeline at C, is in serious need of a defensive middle 6 C that is young and cheap and under team control (hey look, that is Lundestrom) for when one or both of Krejic or Bergeron retire this offseason, and it moves additional cap out with Reilly, while giving you a young cheap depth D piece that is already familiar with your system.

Rather seems like it checks all the boxes for Boston to go do the Boston thing and sign a RHD replacement to Carlo for cheap, because that is what Boston does.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.

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Quoting: Stadel

Yeah he's probably fine for the third pair, he got way more minutes than he shouldve cause the 3rd pair in BUF wqs largely un-useable in the 3rd period.

Again, he is 6th on the list of 7 guys I have identified, with Dumba being at the top of the list as a UFA signing. I didn't even include Severson and Mayfield because I think Mayfield won't come here and Severson is less of a fit, though may be better to get than Joker, will be a hell of a lot more in AAV.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

yeah i was agreeing with you dude lol

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

So do you just not know who Brandon carlo is?

Lundestrom is an AHL player that was getting an NHL paycheck because he played for the worst team in the league. Carlo is part of the bruins core, on a ridiculously team friendly deal with four years of term left. That doesn’t get moved, let alone for next to nothing. At least have the courtesy to add a 24 first so it isn’t a laughable offer.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.

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Unless the Sabres change 2/3 of there Dcore or have more options I wouldn't do that Joker trade.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.

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Peeke is not a first pairing defenseman, even paired with Zach Werenski. You will be disappointed by his results on the first pair, unless your goal is to tank again next season. Now, in a proper role on the second or third pair in a good system (something neither of our teams have had), he'd be quite solid. Probably could do better than a very late second for him.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

So do you just not know who Isaac Lundestrom is? Because it sure as sh*t sounds like you don't. Keep crowing like you know what you are talking about, its amusing.

Boston is going to have to strip itself of depth this offseason. Maybe Carlo doesn't move, but the team is going to be a shell of itself next season with or without him.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.

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Yeah, he might get tossed in over his head for a bit if he came here, but the plan is to sunset Fowler to 2nd pairing where I think he and Peeke would be a good fit, and while I don't want to tank outright next season, even a Fowler Peeke top pairing would be better than what we saw this season.

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Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.

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Quoting: GiggywithGibby

I do! He’s the guy you’re saying is capable of middle six duties that had four goals this year. He isn’t a good NHL player. Carlo is. It’s just a really bad concept, and you know it.

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

He’s an AHLer eh?

Apr. 19, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.

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