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Offseason Towards Rebuild

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Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2023
Published: May 28, 2023
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Not all of these trades have to happen right away. Nor will the offseason look THIS active. All of these moves are POTENTIAL the Jets can make if they look to rebuild. I know it's highly unlikely all of these moves happen, it's just to have an idea where players could go and for what.
Free Agent Signings
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1$2,000,000
1$800,000
1$900,000
1$1,000,000
8$9,000,000
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. Lucius, Cruz [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Value will be a first+, but the Canes won't move roster players.

Winnipeg should certainly rebuild and take futures.
CAR
  1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
Additional Details:
Send him to a true contender. Canes will probably need a bit of help on the wing, and they have the cap space.
2.
WPG
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Price won't be that high, his value is not what it once was. But, retention should help that case.

I know Colorado is a division rival, but GM's don't value that as much as people on capfriendly do, and if two teams are going in separate directions, what does it matter?
COL
  1. Scheifele, Mark ($3,062,500 retained)
Additional Details:
Either a TDL move or an offseason/draft move. Ship him off to a contender (probably as a rental)
3.
WPG
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. DeMelo, Dylan
Additional Details:
Solid DFD, one year left, Buffalo could bite.
4.
WPG
  1. Ylönen, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
In the ABOSOLUTE EVENT that Hughes wanted Dubois NOW... it would look something like this.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
The most talked about player of the year award goes to:

Listen, guys... despite what Windjammer tells you, Montreal isn't moving Beck in a trade for Dubois. Nor is another team willing to sell the house for him knowing where he wants to play... and we know where that is. As far as now, he's a rental. and rentals aren't as expensive as players that sign long term.

If Winnipeg can sign him long term, great. I doubt he stays long term.

They could:

Flip him this offseason
OR
Sign him to a 1 year and lose him to FA when they are in rebuild.
5.
WPG
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
  2. Thomson, Lassi
Additional Details:
The trade would probably assume extension.
OTT
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,083,333 retained)
Additional Details:
His time in Winnipeg is over. Send him on his way.
6.
WPG
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
Retained Salary Transactions
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$73,589,523$0$2,000,000$9,910,477
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 3
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA - 2

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May 28, 2023 at 4:00 a.m.
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a realistic Jets guy? Seriously, thank you for the Windjammer slander.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:05 a.m.
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a realistic Jets guy? Seriously, thank you for the Windjammer slander.


He will absolutely dog on every ACGM anyone makes but will never make one himself because he KNOWS he'll get scorched into the Earth lmao.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:23 a.m.
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laugh Alex DeBrincat isn't leaving Ottawa for a rebuilding Winnipeg team. And that doesn't get Hellebuyck.

And Nikolaj Ehlers gets a far better offer than that.

And Mark Schifele wants to play close to home, So he's not waiving for Colorado.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:24 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh Alex DeBrincat isn't leaving Ottawa for a rebuilding Winnipeg team. And that doesn't get Hellebuyck.

And Nikolaj Ehlers gets a far better offer than that.

And Mark Schifele wants to play close to home, So he's not waiving for Colorado.


I would absolutely love for you to make an ACGM, instead of being an absolute knob in everyones replies.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:26 a.m.
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I would absolutely love for you to make an ACGM, instead of being an absolute knob in everyones replies.


I've made tons of them back in the day, And they all were more realistic than this.
May 28, 2023 at 4:27 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
I've made tons of them back in the day, And they all were more realistic than this.


Yeah, right. Make one right now.

Nobody on this website enjoys your company. You're old, bitter, and disliked.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:29 a.m.
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I've made tons of them back in the day, And they all were more realistic than this.


Dude, you've made ACGM's simulating lines, never mock trades. Let's see your values.
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May 28, 2023 at 4:33 a.m.
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laugh Alex DeBrincat isn't leaving Ottawa for a rebuilding Winnipeg team. And that doesn't get Hellebuyck.

And Nikolaj Ehlers gets a far better offer than that.

And Mark Schifele wants to play close to home, So he's not waiving for Colorado.


cat doesn't even want to stay in ottawa. it's completely up in the air. hellebuyck isn't getting some unknown insane foreign return lmao. ehlers gets a first and a mid tier prospect, just like the fiala trade. he doesn't get more than that. and scheif will waive to any team thats in a contention window, then walk to FA for a year. where in gods name did he say he wants to play close to home? jesus, now i see why nobody likes you.
May 28, 2023 at 5:09 a.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh Alex DeBrincat isn't leaving Ottawa for a rebuilding Winnipeg team. And that doesn't get Hellebuyck.

And Nikolaj Ehlers gets a far better offer than that.

And Mark Schifele wants to play close to home, So he's not waiving for Colorado.


You're just full of bad opinions, like usual.
May 28, 2023 at 6:15 a.m.
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Buffalo accepts
May 28, 2023 at 7:17 a.m.
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Drop Lucius and the Canes probably accept. Ehlers fits the system to a tee, and would be an excellent pickup. The only problem he has is how consistently he gets injured.

The only qualm I would have is that with how much injury risk Ehlers has, I don’t mind giving up the first, but I think the 2nd would have to be conditional based on games played. If the requirement is met the Jets get the 2nd, but if it is not met, the Jets get something along the lines of a 4th or 5th round pick instead.
May 28, 2023 at 8:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Mglgoalie33
a realistic Jets guy? Seriously, thank you for the Windjammer slander.


I think the commentary on the Habs trade and the fact he has Samberg on the bench and not locked into our top 4 shows he’s a Habs guy, not a Jets guy. A team like Seattle, Colorado, Carolina, Boston, that already knows they are a top 6 c from being a true contender and will be in the market for a rental will give more.

Convenient that other Jets stars are traded most of these places to satisfy their needs/use up their cap.

I’d rather hold PLD and flip him at the trade deadline then take a weak return like that. Unless someone we really like slips to 31 there is really no reason for the jets to lock in the worst case value for the 1st round pick acquired for a rental.
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May 28, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
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I think the Canes do this, why are you being reasonable?
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May 28, 2023 at 9:43 a.m.
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Avs are not. Trading. For. Scheifele. It does not make sense for them.
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May 28, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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I dont like it, but I could see a Schefifle trade work out if it's done before training camp. There is no guarantee he will buy into the more involved Avs system
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May 28, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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These are fairly reasonable, doubt Debrincat would extend though so he'd have to be traded or the Sens would need to send different pieces.

Some some hockey site writer suggest Pinto and Grieg for Hellebuyck, has anyone made a post with that trade yet?.. lol

Some really dumb comments on this thread, laughable really but that's the norm on here I guess.
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May 28, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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I think the commentary on the Habs trade and the fact he has Samberg on the bench and not locked into our top 4 shows he’s a Habs guy, not a Jets guy. A team like Seattle, Colorado, Carolina, Boston, that already knows they are a top 6 c from being a true contender and will be in the market for a rental will give more.

Convenient that other Jets stars are traded most of these places to satisfy their needs/use up their cap.

I’d rather hold PLD and flip him at the trade deadline then take a weak return like that. Unless someone we really like slips to 31 there is really no reason for the jets to lock in the worst case value for the 1st round pick acquired for a rental.


Rentals aren't worth as much as players who sign extensions. It's not guaranteed PLD will extend, and teams are going to go off of recent bias and assume he wants to play in Montreal.

Teams won't be lining up to sell the house for a TDL rental. It could be a first, sure, but it won't be much more than that.
May 28, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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The Jets aren't trading Dubois for garbage like Ylonen, when the can easily get more trading him as a rental. There's just no logical, rational or reasonable reason Winnipeg accepts garbage. Trades just don't work like that.

It's amazing how many Montreal fans here are so out of touch with reality.
May 28, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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Rentals aren't worth as much as players who sign extensions. It's not guaranteed PLD will extend, and teams are going to go off of recent bias and assume he wants to play in Montreal.

Teams won't be lining up to sell the house for a TDL rental. It could be a first, sure, but it won't be much more than that.


Go take a look at the return for top line c’s at the deadline and then filter down to those that turned out to be rentals and then get back to me. “Could be a 1st” who do you think you’re tricking? The comps are there. Find me a top line c rental that didn’t return a 1st+? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Maybe if they had a nmc and picked their destination or something but that wouldn’t be a relevant comp here.

Habs have the pieces to make a competitive offer, the fan base on here is choosing not to thinking they’re the only game in town, like he had a no move and would only waive to Montreal. He has a lot of value even as a rental to a team with no intention of extending him.
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May 28, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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Go take a look at the return for top line c’s at the deadline and then filter down to those that turned out to be rentals and then get back to me. “Could be a 1st” who do you think you’re tricking? The comps are there. Find me a top line c rental that didn’t return a 1st+? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Maybe if they had a nmc and picked their destination or something but that wouldn’t be a relevant comp here.

Habs have the pieces to make a competitive offer, the fan base on here is choosing not to thinking they’re the only game in town, like he had a no move and would only waive to Montreal. He has a lot of value even as a rental to a team with no intention of extending him.


O'Reilly just went for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, gotta be able to get at least that for Duchois but this isn't that far off of that really, Ylonen looks decent.
May 28, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.
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O'Reilly just went for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, gotta be able to get at least that for Duchois but this isn't that far off of that really, Ylonen looks decent.


I actually like Ylonen too, but the risk and reward is in how high the first is. We’d have locked ourselves into the lowest or second lowest possible pick. In your view is ylonen worth a 2nd, 3rd and then another second to trade up to where another pick likely falls? He’s not 2 - 2nds and a 3rd good to me. He’s a maybe middle six winger that would not push Barron down to the 4th line. So it’s Gus or him in the press box. A super late first and guy that may be a healthy scratch all year ain’t it for me.

Colorado doesn’t want Scheif but they would want pld…. Just saying.
May 29, 2023 at 12:44 a.m.
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I actually like Ylonen too, but the risk and reward is in how high the first is. We’d have locked ourselves into the lowest or second lowest possible pick. In your view is ylonen worth a 2nd, 3rd and then another second to trade up to where another pick likely falls? He’s not 2 - 2nds and a 3rd good to me. He’s a maybe middle six winger that would not push Barron down to the 4th line. So it’s Gus or him in the press box. A super late first and guy that may be a healthy scratch all year ain’t it for me.

Colorado doesn’t want Scheif but they would want pld…. Just saying.


Ylonen is worth at least a 3rd and probably a 2nd I'm thinking, he was a pretty early 2nd himself so he's probably worth a mid to late 2nd still, its tough to say really.

How would he not push Barron down to the 4th line where he should be? Barron sucks!.. lol

Personally I think keeping PLD to trade him at the 2024 TDL would be a dumb and very risky move and don't think the return would be much better.

Would the Avs give their 1st which is 27th overall and one of Ollosson or Berens, those two are probably their best prospects but neither look all that good yet, no better then Ylonen anyway, unless the Avs are willing to part with Newhook I don't see anything they'd likely be willing to offer
as any better then whats proposed here.
May 29, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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Ylonen is worth at least a 3rd and probably a 2nd I'm thinking, he was a pretty early 2nd himself so he's probably worth a mid to late 2nd still, its tough to say really.

How would he not push Barron down to the 4th line where he should be? Barron sucks!.. lol

Personally I think keeping PLD to trade him at the 2024 TDL would be a dumb and very risky move and don't think the return would be much better.

Would the Avs give their 1st which is 27th overall and one of Ollosson or Berens, those two are probably their best prospects but neither look all that good yet, no better then Ylonen anyway, unless the Avs are willing to part with Newhook I don't see anything they'd likely be willing to offer
as any better then whats proposed here.


But what about Seattle? Give Wright another year of seasoning and with their deep run they have to be thinking it may be worthwhile to add. That would be 20oa and then maybe Firkus or Goyette.

I’d want the prospect to be waiver exempt so we’d have options or be a clear cut middle 6 player.
May 29, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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The Jets aren't trading Dubois for garbage like Ylonen, when the can easily get more trading him as a rental. There's just no logical, rational or reasonable reason Winnipeg accepts garbage. Trades just don't work like that.

It's amazing how many Montreal fans here are so out of touch with reality.


Nothing you say ever makes sense. Complete tool job. Nobody on this website likes you. We LITERALLY despise your company. Do everyone a favour and fire yourself into the sun.
May 29, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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Go take a look at the return for top line c’s at the deadline and then filter down to those that turned out to be rentals and then get back to me. “Could be a 1st” who do you think you’re tricking? The comps are there. Find me a top line c rental that didn’t return a 1st+? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Maybe if they had a nmc and picked their destination or something but that wouldn’t be a relevant comp here.

Habs have the pieces to make a competitive offer, the fan base on here is choosing not to thinking they’re the only game in town, like he had a no move and would only waive to Montreal. He has a lot of value even as a rental to a team with no intention of extending him.


Top line C? Woah there bucko.

He's a 2C. Averages 60pts a season, subpar defensive metrics, not the best off ice track record, and has never proven good in the playoffs.

I made this in the ABOLUTE EVENT that Hughes, for some reason, wanted him now. And in the event of this trade, I provided a first, and a young, middle 6 player. Hop off the high horse.
 
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