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Created by: vinny82
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2023
Published: Jun. 6, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Durzi, Sean
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
2.
PHI
MTL
    Hart
    3.
    PHI
    1. Gibson, John
    2. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. 2023 1st round pick (PHI)
    2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
    Additional Details:
    Hart+ 7th and 22nd, for Gibson and 2nd.
    4.
    PHI
    1. Bourgault, Xavier
    2. Brind'Amour, Skyler [Reserve List]
    3. Broberg, Philip
    4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
    5. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
    EDM
      Hart
      5.
      PHI
      1. Abruzzese, Nick [RFA Rights]
      2. Knies, Matthew
      3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
      TOR
        HART
        Buyouts
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2023
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        2024
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        2025
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        24$83,500,000$73,917,262$1,187,500$2,650,000$9,582,738
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
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        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 5
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        $3,571,429$3,571,429
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $5,500,000$5,500,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
        $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
        C
        RFA - 1
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        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $1,750,000$1,750,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $785,000$785,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $925,000$925,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $762,500$762,500
        RW, C
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $918,333$918,333
        RW, C
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
        RW
        RFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $6,250,000$6,250,000
        LD/RD
        NTC
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $5,100,000$5,100,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $2,650,000$2,650,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $1,675,000$1,675,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
        $1,700,000$1,700,000
        LD/RD
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $775,000$775,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $828,333$828,333
        LD/RD
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $890,000$890,000
        G
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $775,000$775,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
        $6,400,000$6,400,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
        LD
        RFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $7,750,000$7,750,000
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $6,250,000$6,250,000
        RD
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
        $5,875,000$5,875,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2

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        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.
        #1
        Bar up
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        Knies ain’t moving
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.
        #2
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        Hahahahaha wow what a joke no way in hell do you get that from any of these teams
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
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        Yeah Anaheim isn’t trading Adamo Fantilli but nice try
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.
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        Leafs pass
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.
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        Would do all of these but I think EDM and TOR are too much for Hart and same for Anaheim
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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        Hart has some pretty good value but he doesn’t carry this value. He still plays the most volatile position.

        A 1st, 2nd and 3rd seems about right maybe even a little high.
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        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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        Didnt know Hart was the greatest goalie of all time.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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        Goalies are never worth 1st round picks, in the draft or via trade. No exceptions.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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        This is a joke right?
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        Yeah Anaheim isn’t trading Adamo Fantilli but nice try


        I think you might , just not for that
        You got high end Center's arent you in need LD?

        Guhle(16th OA i think 2020) , 5th OA and 37th OA for Fantilli even move the needle ?
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jah1722
        Hart has some pretty good value but he doesn’t carry this value. He still plays the most volatile position.

        A 1st, 2nd and 3rd seems about right maybe even a little high.


        It would make him one of the higher paid Goalie Trades in history for sure.
        He might get a 1st a good prospect a late pick and a NHL Warm Body for Contract Purposes
        Thats the most i really see and even thats high but Justifiable if they're taking on bad deals like they did in the Provorov trade as CBJ wasnt moving on the 1st and 2nd round pick with RS.
        LAK had to dump some players PHI could actually use and LAK RS of 2m to dump 7m in contracts paying Grans and a 2nd to give PHI what they felt Provorov was worth.

        They'll need another deal like that to get what he's asking on any of these deals.
        In a 3 way trade the odds are let call it 75/100 but just two teams , that return ? i'd say 15/100 so 15% odds
        With 100% odds MTL doesnt have interest at that cost
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
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        All of these are overpays in favour of the flyers.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.
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        You can have Primeau, Xhekaj and 37th pick
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        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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        Quoting: Billy739
        It would make him one of the higher paid Goalie Trades in history for sure.
        He might get a 1st a good prospect a late pick and a NHL Warm Body for Contract Purposes
        Thats the most i really see and even thats high but Justifiable if they're taking on bad deals like they did in the Provorov trade as CBJ wasnt moving on the 1st and 2nd round pick with RS.
        LAK had to dump some players PHI could actually use and LAK RS of 2m to dump 7m in contracts paying Grans and a 2nd to give PHI what they felt Provorov was worth.

        They'll need another deal like that to get what he's asking on any of these deals.
        In a 3 way trade the odds are let call it 75/100 but just two teams , that return ? i'd say 15/100 so 15% odds
        With 100% odds MTL doesnt have interest at that cost


        He’s asking for Elite young skater returns in these trades. They’d have to take back a ton of cap to get close to this return for Hart. Now if he packaged Hart and Konecny there might be something close to these from a contender.
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        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: Billy739
        I think you might , just not for that
        You got high end Center's arent you in need LD?

        Guhle(16th OA i think 2020) , 5th OA and 37th OA for Fantilli even move the needle ?


        LD is the absolute last thing we need
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        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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        Habs ain't doing that bud, way too much of a ask
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        LD is the absolute last thing we need


        RD , Goaltending,Wingers?
        Cause i was told a top paid LD by ANA fans so im confused here.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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        Quoting: Jah1722
        He’s asking for Elite young skater returns in these trades. They’d have to take back a ton of cap to get close to this return for Hart. Now if he packaged Hart and Konecny there might be something close to these from a contender.


        To Be Fair though we were all saying that about Provorov for over a year now.
        That said i dont agree that Hart should get a top 10 pick in any trade ever
        I was just Generalizing using Provorov trade as an example of the hoops they'd need to go through to get even close to that.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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        Hart is massively overvalued in all of these deals. He's an average goalie, and most teams won't mortgage their future to acquire a player like him.
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.
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        Philly fans be tripping on the Hart return
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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        Why the hell would the Ducks trade Adam fantilli for a goalie
        Jun. 6, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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        There's a high discrepancy in value to drop from #2 OA and Gibson to get #7, #22 and Hart (who will likely need a contract in the $6-7 million range), especially in this draft.

        I don't even think a prospect like Gauthier, York or Brink moves the needle much to warrant moving down from #2 to #7 in 2023. A 2023 early 2nd, or 2024 1st round pick is more in-line with valuation.
         
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