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Created by: Westerner69
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2023
Published: Aug. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$850,000
3$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Kemell, Joakim
  2. Lauzon, Jérémy
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NSH)
Additional Details:
Pick Top 10 Protected
NSH
  1. Hanifin, Noah
  2. 2025 5th round pick (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. 2024 5th round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Backlund, Mikael ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (CGY)
3.
CGY
  1. O'Brien, Liam
  2. 2025 6th round pick (ARI)
4.
CGY
  1. Ceulemans, Corson
  2. Robinson, Eric
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CBJ)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (CBJ)
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the ARI
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$85,500,000$75,839,999$0$1,077,500$9,660,001
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
UFA

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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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That's uhh... one hefty price for a LHD we don't need.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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1000000 of Tanevs Salary when we aren't trading him?
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
That's uhh... one hefty price for a LHD we don't need.


Are you saying he would not substantially improve your d core?????????????
Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Westerner69
Are you saying he would not substantially improve your d core?????????????


I'm saying we'd have wayy too much money tied into our LHD, and you're not getting Kemell along with a likely 11-16OA pick for a rental 2LD
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Gmonwy
1000000 of Tanevs Salary when we aren't trading him?


Oops yes thanks, I did have a Tanev trade there but deleted, forgot to delete the Arizon part smile
Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
I'm saying we'd have wayy too much money tied into our LHD, and you're not getting Kemell along with a likely 11-16OA pick for a rental 2LD


You have over 6 mill in space, and I would hope everyone at this point would assume a trade like this would include an extension for Hanifin without having to add that comment every time.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Westerner69
You have over 6 mill in space, and I would hope everyone at this point would assume a trade like this would include an extension for Hanifin without having to add that comment every time.


Still too much for Hanifin. He doesn't push us over that bump to make us true contenders again, and that price tag is nuts.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Westerner69
You have over 6 mill in space, and I would hope everyone at this point would assume a trade like this would include an extension for Hanifin without having to add that comment every time.


What would that have to do this? Nashville doesn’t need to be spending 22m on 4 LDs. Adding Hanafin would make us better, but that isn’t the direction that this team is going right now.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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What would that have to do this? Nashville doesn’t need to be spending 22m on 4 LDs. Adding Hanafin would make us better, but that isn’t the direction that this team is going right now.


Incoming new wave of "Hanifin to NSH" because of that one article.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: OkMan
What would that have to do this? Nashville doesn’t need to be spending 22m on 4 LDs. Adding Hanafin would make us better, but that isn’t the direction that this team is going right now.


Fair enough, thanks for the input.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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That'd be a crazy trade for Nashville to make, not something they would or should do, even with an extension its an overpay for Hanifin.

Boston needs a center but they can't afford to lose Debrusk, just filling a hole by digging another so its pointless for them.

Arizona actually has a pretty good goalie tandem, Vladar isn't a fit there at all.

Thats a pretty fair price for Cbus to pay for Lindholm and while I like the player I think Cbus just shouldn't bother even if he was willing to extend, his next contract is gonna be brutal by the sounds of it.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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DeBrusk is not on the table for someone who is 34 years old.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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Kemell is arguably Nashville's top prospect. Hanifin's value is around a 1st + 2 x 2nds. That's why I don't think that a 1st would be a part of the trade. I also think it's more likely that the Flames take Barrie instead of Lauzon in that trade.

How about this:
To NSH: Hanifin, Dube
To CGY: Kemell, Molendyk, Barrie

I still don't think NSH does this because they just started a mini retool and I don't see them going for it this year.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Boston laughs at that. Seriuosly.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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If Lindholm could be extended for eight or under per year or for less than max term at 8ish, I’d do that for Columbus. But that’s too much for no extension to a team that isn’t a contender, and the team has to manage its cap very carefully in the coming years.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Boston laughs at that. Seriuosly.


We just really love Backlund in CGY. I agree that trade won't happen.
Aug. 20, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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What would that have to do this? Nashville doesn’t need to be spending 22m on 4 LDs. Adding Hanafin would make us better, but that isn’t the direction that this team is going right now.


Also, nashville was 12th in the league for goals against per game. Sure there is room for improvement there but they were 28th in goals for per game. They simply arent going to trade their best goal scoring forward prospect for another dman. Add that to the cap realities of having around 35 million tied up in a defense core.
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Aug. 20, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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Ehhhh
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Eh the lindholm trade is better than most of the absurd trade ideas by Calgary fans but I’m kinda over lindholm at this point. Giving up what it would cost to get him on top of giving him big money at 30 years old while also needing to extend marchenko and and Johnson just doesn’t make lindholm worth it. I’d rather Columbus get another middle 6 center to let fantilli Jenner and aforementioned center battle out for top line duties.
 
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