so Taylor Hall literally just fetched a bad bottom pairing defender and an AHLer and he's suddenly worth this? Does he poop gold now or something?

Wake up Jared!

Cap space has value, Boston was in a severe cap crunch and needed to free up space, so not only did the Bruins get Regula and Mitchell, they bought themselves $6m in cap space by giving away Hall and the negotiating rights to Foligno. Not that hard to understand.

Wake up Jared!

Cap space has value, Boston was in a severe cap crunch and needed to free up space, so not only did the Bruins get Regula and Mitchell, they bought themselves $6m in cap space by giving away Hall and the negotiating rights to Foligno. Not that hard to understand.

He's not going to understand. Don't bother.

oh yes, please tell me how taylor hall being given away translates to the leafs paying 4000x more for him. Clearly a guy who got out scored by Calle Jarnkrok while on a better team is worth so very much for reasons that make perfect sense

so if hall's cap space is so valuable then the hawks owe the leafs 10 first rounders to take him on. That's about as logical a leap as this hilariously terrible trade. Maybe you should go back to bed if it's that hard for you to understand

Taylor Hall played on the league's best regular season team...ever. His Trade value...as Snowhawk18 pointed out...will be entirely dependent on his performance in the 1st half of the season. You're suggesting "4000x more" because CHI took advantage of BOS cap situation. CHI did it with VAN...Dickinson + 2nd. CHI did it with the NYI...Bailey + 2nd. CHI did it with OTT,..Zaitsev +2nd/4th. CHI did it with Vegas...reigning Vezina winner acquired for future considerations. CHI even did it with TOR retaining 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons. That's just the CHI trades in the past few years, but CAR's done it a ton too. Plenty of examples of this occurring. Brandon Pridham is a master of working the cap.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/685954

I'm hopeful Hall stays at his BOS levels of ~2.7P/60. He hasn't been getting a ton of PP time and only ~16 ATOI. Only time will tell whether or not more ice time and PP time will help his point totals. Hall won't get traded before the season starts. So all of this is a moot point and will work itself out.

You were right exo2769!

Jared, try hard to concentrate and understand how the cap works.

Sometimes the total contracts of a teams players exceeds the upcoming year’s salary cap limits. This can happen as a result of late season/TDL acquisitions as teams have players on LTIR so they go out replace those players. When the next season rolls around… ooops they have too much on the books. Things such as performance bonuses can make the situation even worse because if a team doesn’t have the cap space available in the year they are earned, they automatically transfer to the next season as “carryover bonuses”, in Boston’s case these bonuses count $4.5m towards their 2023/2024 cap.

Now, teams can’t ignore the cap, they have to be compliant or face league discipline. In order to make sure they compliant for the upcoming season they had to let certain players walk as free agents (Bertuzzi, Orlov etc). Despite those tough decisions the Bruins still needed to free up more space, they achieved that by trading Hall and the negotiating rights to Foligno to a team that had cap space available and saw value in the player… Chicago. Boston didn’t make this move because they don’t believe Hall has value, they made the move because they HAD TO in order to be cap compliant.

The Bruins probably would have loved to keep Hall and potentially traded him at the trade deadline to help restock their draft capital however, they couldn’t wait to move him because they HAVE TO BE CAP COMPLIANT at the start of the season.

So read slow, go through two or three times if you have to, move your lips while reading if it helps… you will eventually get it, I have faith in you!

two years ago, without his big dumb contract after a 'good 1st half of the season' with 10 goals and 27 points in 35 games, Boston traded a 2nd and Anders Bjork for Hall and Lazar. How is he worth more than that now? What kind of 1st half of the season would he have to have to not only replicate what Boston paid, but add a 1st, prospect and a top 4 defender? This is an insanely bad trade from every single angle and there is no way to justify it at all.

two years ago, without his big dumb contract after a 'good 1st half of the season' with 10 goals and 27 points in 35 games, Boston traded a 2nd and Anders Bjork for Hall and Lazar. How is he worth more than that now? What kind of 1st half of the season would he have to have to not only replicate what Boston paid, but add a 1st, prospect and a top 4 defender? This is an insanely bad trade from every single angle and there is no way to justify it at all.

Two years ago when he was traded to Boston, Taylor Hall told Buffalo he would accept a deal to the Bruins and no one else. He stripped any power the Sabres had to negotiate the best deal possible by giving Buffalo one team to negotiate with.

If you wanted to sell your house and only had one person you were allowed to sell to as opposed to 31, do you think you would/could get the maximum return?

Seriously that’s what you came up with as your defence.

The answer is easy and it's the same exact reason Kaner only got a 2nd round pick...Full NMC. Hall dictated where he went...said he wanted to go to BOS...so GUESS WHAT HAPPENED?!?! BOS took advantage of that. Just like the NYR did with Patrick Kane.

so if hall's cap space is so valuable then the hawks owe the leafs 10 first rounders to take him on. That's about as logical a leap as this hilariously terrible trade. Maybe you should go back to bed if it's that hard for you to understand

He wanted to go to a contender and no one wanted uom because they didnt think he was very good.
SO GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? He got traded for peanuts, and his value has not increased

idk....MAYBE it had to do with a $6M cap hit...make sense yet?

LMAO seriously??? Chicago isn't in a cap crunch....Boston was...you do understand the circumstantial differences i hope

So let me get this straight, two times in a row, in recent history taylor hall has been traded for a bag of door knobs, but suddenly he's worth premier deadline acquisition prices?
Hawks fans realize there is a whole range of value between the nothing they traded for him and the hilarious moon shot of the op right?

If you think a late 1st and TJ Brodie is a premier deadline price you have another thing coming!