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I See A Serious Cup Contender

Created by: DougieGilmour
Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2023
Published: Nov. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
LAK
  1. Mrázek, Petr ($1,600,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Arvidsson, Viktor
  2. Copley, Pheonix
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (LAK)
Retained Salary Transactions
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$82,195,834$0$3,945,000$1,304,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,200,000$4,200,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 8
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$875,000$875,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
RFA - 1

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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:15 a.m.
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I don't hate it. Arvidsson could be an interesting add for CHI, when he is cleared to play. Albeit, only until the end of the season, but he might be fun to watch playing with Reichel or Bedard.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:19 a.m.
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Hawks say yes, Kings say no.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
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Yeah that's way too much to give for a rental goalie like Mrazek. They would want to keep Arvidsson and probably only give a 2nd or 3rd + an insignificant roster player (maybe Copley) for Mrazek if they are interested.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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I might be missing something but what i see is Hawks retain on a goalie and in return get a goalie having a really tough year only to get worse with Hawks D in front of him, two picks not in 1st round, and a guy who is really good but also listed as “month to month” with a back injury. He can be on LTIR if salary is tight for LA and if not we’re taking $4.25M off their hands.

It seems like this leans in LAK’s favor heavily. What am I missing?
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
I might be missing something but what i see is Hawks retain on a goalie and in return get a goalie having a really tough year only to get worse with Hawks D in front of him, two picks not in 1st round, and a guy who is really good but also listed as “month to month” with a back injury. He can be on LTIR if salary is tight for LA and if not we’re taking $4.25M off their hands.

It seems like this leans in LAK’s favor heavily. What am I missing?


You’re missing the fact that you’d be getting two draft picks for taking on a couple of players who are UFAs in the summer. Why would you not want the free picks?
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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Quoting: YeahRighttt
Hawks say yes, Kings say no.


Why? Unless you think they should overpay for Saros then I don’t see a better goalie option that’ll likely be available.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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Quoting: YeahRighttt
Hawks say yes, Kings say no.


Yeah take the second out and both teams accept
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
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Yeah take the second out and both teams accept


Hawks don't do this for less than that 2nd. Kings get an upgrade in goal and about $3.5m in cap space to play with. Who knows if Arvidsson is even going to play this year?
Nov. 19, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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Could probably remove the 3rd. Mrazek for the 2nd and Copley. With Arvidsson, LA clears cap for another move and the hawks get a free asset with trade deadline potential. Either way he's off the books at the end of the season so it's zero risk.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.
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LA declines, Arvidsson is going to be a huge upgrade from Laffy. Mzareks stats over the last three seasons show he’s below a .900 goaltender. If we are using small sample size to justify value, the Kings should be able to flip Talbot for two 1st rounders to find their goalie.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
You’re missing the fact that you’d be getting two draft picks for taking on a couple of players who are UFAs in the summer. Why would you not want the free picks?


Probably because from my opinion I wouldn’t necessarily want those picks. But seems like I’m in the minority here.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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Kings easily decline here, Mrazek is not that good
Nov. 19, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
Why? Unless you think they should overpay for Saros then I don’t see a better goalie option that’ll likely be available.


Mrazek is playing well right now , but has a long history of injury problems. There is no worries for a rebuilding team like the Hawks eyeing a high draft pick. A Kings team that wants to make waves in the playoffs probably wants someone less risky.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
Why? Unless you think they should overpay for Saros then I don’t see a better goalie option that’ll likely be available.


My first thought was big overpay but if Arvidsson is truly done regardless of the playoffs it gets closer, and then I checked Copley’s stats and was like it’s even closer, and there is retention and it’s closer. I still think it’s a bit of an overpay but not as bad as my first thought. Way to be creative.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Jco5ta5
Probably because from my opinion I wouldn’t necessarily want those picks. But seems like I’m in the minority here.


You’re not getting a 1st for Mrazek.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
Why? Unless you think they should overpay for Saros then I don’t see a better goalie option that’ll likely be available.


Talbot is a better goalie option.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.
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You’re not getting a 1st for Mrazek.


I’m not expecting one but you’re also oversimplifying. It’s not Mrazek for a first 1 to 1. It’s Mrazek with retention plus taking $4.25M worth of Arvidsson off your payroll. That said, Arvidsson is on LTIR so his salary is technically off the books.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 6:38 a.m.
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Talbot is a better goalie option.


Than Saros???
Nov. 22, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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Than Saros???


Mrazek.
Nov. 23, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Mrazek.


Ok that makes sense but it’s a false comparison. Talbot and Mrazek is a better tandem than Talbot/Copely.
Nov. 25, 2023 at 4:18 a.m.
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Ok that makes sense but it’s a false comparison. Talbot and Mrazek is a better tandem than Talbot/Copely.


Maybe, but they're not giving up a haul like that for a backup goaltender.
 
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