I need to lower my expectations

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Created by: Gmonwy

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 26, 2023

Published: Nov. 30, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

CGY

2024 5th round pick (CHI)
2026 3rd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Zadorov, Nikita

Additional Details:

So VAN traded Beauvillier and a 3rd for Zadorov

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$69,913,333	$0	$212,500	$13,586,667

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Pospisil, Martin $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 1
	Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 2	Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
	Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
		Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 1

Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.

SomeonesOffended

FKA Bigtittielarper

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lol it’s okay man you’ll still get a 1st for tanev but I doubt you get the 3rd with him now

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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He was our worst asset and we sold really early. Like I've said before the Market sucks right now as no one has cap space to buy, as we get closer to the deadline prices will go up.

Also worth noting that we didn't retain, a 2nd+ was expected on retention. This opens up a lot of cap space for the Flames and we can actually start accruing cap space before the deadline

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.

CorrosionRF

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Its literally fine

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.

oilfire

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Oof maron, at least he didn't go to Toronto.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

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Zadorov was getting super overrated imo. Hes a great bottom 4 defenseman but was never getting a 2nd

Lindholm gonna get a 1st+, Hanifin a 1st++, Tanev probably a 1st and a small piece then Dube, Ruzicka, Greer and the rest of the depth guys you are all shopping will get some solid pieces in return, too.

Calgary is gonna get back good assets this is just a start

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.

Gmonwy

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Or it starts the hopeful trading of all UFA's. At the TDL(I hope not expecting)
Lindholm-Bit less than Horvat
Tanev-Maybe a Savard comparable?
Hanifin-Around what H. Lindholm got
Oesterle-6th

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.

WranglerWranglin

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Only surprising part is that there were no players targeted and strictly picks. Value is what it is and is what a GM was willing to pay. He was the last piece the Flames would have retained on so there’s nothing really out of the ordinary here.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.

oilfire

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

I think we should've been able to do better but getting a distraction out of the room isn't without value.

Definitely knew something was happening with Oesterle coming up and Van sending a guy down after clearing Beauvillier.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.

Bast

First round bust

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I was saying we were going to get a 2nd back for him all along. It's a bit less, but not the end of the world.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.

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Garak

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Right? I'm pretty surprised. I know he is a pending UFA, but I still expected a better return than that.

I would've just hung onto him until the deadline and put retention on the table to up the return.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.

#11

Byrr

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The problem with moving Zadorov was probably that Calgary didn't want to retain on their lowest value asset and that was going to be a problem for any team to take on a 4 mil aav 3rd pairing defenseman. In Vancouver's case, they had to lose Beauvillier to make it work.

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.

#12

Mr_Gardoki

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