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I need to lower my expectations

Created by: Gmonwy
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 26, 2023
Published: Nov. 30, 2023
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Trades
CGY
  1. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
  2. 2026 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Additional Details:
So VAN traded Beauvillier and a 3rd for Zadorov
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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20$83,500,000$77,000,833$0$212,500$6,499,167
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
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UFA - 4
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
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$825,000$825,000
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$762,500$762,500
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
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$775,000$775,000
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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UFA - 3
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
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UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
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C
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.
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FKA Bigtittielarper
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lol it’s okay man you’ll still get a 1st for tanev but I doubt you get the 3rd with him now
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
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He was our worst asset and we sold really early. Like I've said before the Market sucks right now as no one has cap space to buy, as we get closer to the deadline prices will go up.

Also worth noting that we didn't retain, a 2nd+ was expected on retention. This opens up a lot of cap space for the Flames and we can actually start accruing cap space before the deadline
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.
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Its literally fine
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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Oof maron, at least he didn't go to Toronto.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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Zadorov was getting super overrated imo. Hes a great bottom 4 defenseman but was never getting a 2nd

Lindholm gonna get a 1st+, Hanifin a 1st++, Tanev probably a 1st and a small piece then Dube, Ruzicka, Greer and the rest of the depth guys you are all shopping will get some solid pieces in return, too.

Calgary is gonna get back good assets this is just a start
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He was our worst asset and we sold really early. Like I've said before the Market sucks right now as no one has cap space to buy, as we get closer to the deadline prices will go up.

Also worth noting that we didn't retain, a 2nd+ was expected on retention. This opens up a lot of cap space for the Flames and we can actually start accruing cap space before the deadline


Or it starts the hopeful trading of all UFA's. At the TDL(I hope not expecting)
Lindholm-Bit less than Horvat
Tanev-Maybe a Savard comparable?
Hanifin-Around what H. Lindholm got
Oesterle-6th
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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Only surprising part is that there were no players targeted and strictly picks. Value is what it is and is what a GM was willing to pay. He was the last piece the Flames would have retained on so there’s nothing really out of the ordinary here.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He was our worst asset and we sold really early. Like I've said before the Market sucks right now as no one has cap space to buy, as we get closer to the deadline prices will go up.

Also worth noting that we didn't retain, a 2nd+ was expected on retention. This opens up a lot of cap space for the Flames and we can actually start accruing cap space before the deadline


I think we should've been able to do better but getting a distraction out of the room isn't without value.

Definitely knew something was happening with Oesterle coming up and Van sending a guy down after clearing Beauvillier.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:24 p.m.
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I was saying we were going to get a 2nd back for him all along. It's a bit less, but not the end of the world.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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Right? I'm pretty surprised. I know he is a pending UFA, but I still expected a better return than that.

I would've just hung onto him until the deadline and put retention on the table to up the return.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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The problem with moving Zadorov was probably that Calgary didn't want to retain on their lowest value asset and that was going to be a problem for any team to take on a 4 mil aav 3rd pairing defenseman. In Vancouver's case, they had to lose Beauvillier to make it work.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
lol it’s okay man you’ll still get a 1st for tanev but I doubt you get the 3rd with him now


They're not getting a 1st for Tanev.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
lol it’s okay man you’ll still get a 1st for tanev but I doubt you get the 3rd with him now


It's not going to be a 1st. No team is giving a 1st unless it comes with an extension.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
They're not getting a 1st for Tanev.


Well maybe from Toronto cause they don’t have any seconds and a little kick back
 
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