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NJ fans how would you feel if this deal went down

Created by: djmbrown
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2023
Published: Nov. 30, 2023
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Description
Helps NJ’s goaltending issues, adds a solid D for 8 years to play with Dougie. Also gets you out of the Vanecek and Sieg contracts. Costs a couple upper echelon prospects and a first. Seems reasonable.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$975,000
Trades
CGY
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Filmon, Josh
  3. Siegenthaler, Jonas
  4. Vanecek, Vitek
  5. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
  2. Markström, Jacob
Additional Details:
Hanifin sign and trade for 7.5 x 8
Retained Salary Transactions
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2024
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2025
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2026
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21$83,500,000$72,875,833$0$212,500$10,624,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
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UFA - 6
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$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 8
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
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NTC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
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UFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
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$825,000$825,000
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$762,500$762,500
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
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NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
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UFA - 1

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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.
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No on Markstrom. Well let Schmid takes the 1A slot.
Interest in Hanifin if they clfet an idea of what he wants. Our 1st + but it won't be Casey
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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Gets us “out of Siegs contract?” He is one of the best defensive dmen in league. Not even sure this pays for him alone.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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You make it sound like they want out of that Sieg contract. Perhaps they want to move on from it to make room on the roster, but that contract has a lot of value.

I like the idea of moving Markstrom but you gotta respect his value is low, especially unretained.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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Terrible

Sieganthaler has a fantastic contract
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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Siegs has a steal of a contract.

Markstrom without retention is still ugly

Casey+a 1st going out, an elite player better be coming back, with term
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
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maybe you can get them out of that hughes contract too.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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"getting out of" Siegenthaler's contract is a wild statement. He is a really good player who is actually underpaid.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: imawesome
"getting out of" Siegenthaler's contract is a wild statement. He is a really good player who is actually underpaid.


In terms of win now there’s not many better uses of 3.4 million than on your top pairing LD top Pk guy, especially when it’s 25 with term. Imagine how nice that contract could look when he’s in his prime at 28-29, the cap is at like 95 mill, and he’s still making 3.4
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Gets us “out of Siegs contract?” He is one of the best defensive dmen in league. Not even sure this pays for him alone.


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Gets us “out of Siegs contract?” He is one of the best defensive dmen in league. Not even sure this pays for him alone.


Haha ok obviously NJ fans value Sieg. Fair enough. But “one of the best defensive Dmen in the league” might be a stretch. A big stretch. Was more trying to make the cap hits work. Maybe Haula is included then instead. But you still have to admit Hanifin would be a big upgrade to your D and Marky a big upgrade in net. To get those types of pieces there needs to be big value coming back.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
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I'd be more concerned about Jersey cap next season. Seigs and Vanecek costs 6.8m combined....Markstrom and the propsed Hanifan cost 13.5m combined. Is Markstrom even an improvement? And the Devils add futures.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
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Haha ok obviously NJ fans value Sieg. Fair enough. But “one of the best defensive Dmen in the league” might be a stretch. A big stretch. Was more trying to make the cap hits work. Maybe Haula is included then instead. But you still have to admit Hanifin would be a big upgrade to your D and Marky a big upgrade in net. To get those types of pieces there needs to be big value coming back.


Little interest in Markstrom.

Hanifin would be great..but would be replacing Bahl/Smith. Siegenthaler is a top-4 dman here…and has been one of the best defensive dmen over the last couple of years.

Hanifin at 1st+prospect or 1st+3rd probably works better for NJD.
Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.
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Quoting: djmbrown
Haha ok obviously NJ fans value Sieg. Fair enough. But “one of the best defensive Dmen in the league” might be a stretch. A big stretch. Was more trying to make the cap hits work. Maybe Haula is included then instead. But you still have to admit Hanifin would be a big upgrade to your D and Marky a big upgrade in net. To get those types of pieces there needs to be big value coming back.


We're gonna keep Haula too thank you very much.

Markstrom at 6 million dollars for a 0.901 and being 23rd in GSAx is not something I'm paying for.

We like hanifin and we can more than easily fit him in. Not going higher than the rental market tho.

Siegs is elite defensively
Nov. 30, 2023 at 11:34 p.m.
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Is Markstrom a negative or positive contract
Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
We're gonna keep Haula too thank you very much.

Markstrom at 6 million dollars for a 0.901 and being 23rd in GSAx is not something I'm paying for.

We like hanifin and we can more than easily fit him in. Not going higher than the rental market tho.

Siegs is elite defensively


I love this site. Everyone thinks their players are all Gretzky. Haula is not a great player and is overpaid for what he does. Those contracts cost you to get rid of. Markstrom was a vezina finalist recently. None of NJ goalies are doing well and are never going to reach that level.

Also, “not going above the rental market” shows you just want to troll responses. I clearly stated Hanifin was an extension of 7.5 x 8. So let’s try to read here people! My post was just to gauge your interest as fans of NJ. But some of you just love to B@$”& about everything. It’s why this be a GM is a joke.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: djmbrown
I love this site. Everyone thinks their players are all Gretzky. Haula is not a great player and is overpaid for what he does. Those contracts cost you to get rid of. Markstrom was a vezina finalist recently. None of NJ goalies are doing well and are never going to reach that level.

Also, “not going above the rental market” shows you just want to troll responses. I clearly stated Hanifin was an extension of 7.5 x 8. So let’s try to read here people! My post was just to gauge your interest as fans of NJ. But some of you just love to B$”& about everything. It’s why this be a GM is a joke.


The NJD GM decided he was worth 3.1 mill this offseason. He's then been even better this year. He also has a full NTC. He absolutely has +ve value, and we will not be paying to dump a valuable 3C and PK guy who can play anywhere in the lineup.

Find me a better UFA C under 3.5 million... Only one out there is Staal and he also took a discount to stay in Carolina
Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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Quoting: djmbrown
I love this site. Everyone thinks their players are all Gretzky. Haula is not a great player and is overpaid for what he does. Those contracts cost you to get rid of. Markstrom was a vezina finalist recently. None of NJ goalies are doing well and are never going to reach that level.

Also, “not going above the rental market” shows you just want to troll responses. I clearly stated Hanifin was an extension of 7.5 x 8. So let’s try to read here people! My post was just to gauge your interest as fans of NJ. But some of you just love to B$”& about everything. It’s why this be a GM is a joke.


Sign and trade UFA's aren't real. We also have no interest in hanifin at 7.5 mill, let alone markstrom at 6 mill as well.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:44 a.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
The NJD GM decided he was worth 3.1 mill this offseason. He's then been even better this year. He also has a full NTC. He absolutely has +ve value, and we will not be paying to dump a valuable 3C and PK guy who can play anywhere in the lineup.

Find me a better UFA C under 3.5 million... Only one out there is Staal and he also took a discount to stay in Carolina


Kerfoot, Mittelstadt, Dickinson, Duchene, Cousins. Thats only after looking at a third of the league. Ya I’d take every one of those guys over Haula.

Quoting: dgibb10
Sign and trade UFA's aren't real. We also have no interest in hanifin at 7.5 mill, let alone markstrom at 6 mill as well.


Flames just did it with Tkachuk. So not sure how they’re “not real”. I love when guys say “we’re not” doing this or that as if they have any idea what the GM would do or wouldn’t do in real life. This site is for ideas, not statements as if you know anything about what a GM would or would not do lol
Maybe chill a bit dude.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 2:28 a.m.
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hanifin at 8m is HORRIBLE. So by your logic is to waste 14m on two players... meaning we can resign players.. God that terrible is TERRIBLE. There are goalies are there who are cheaper and better.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: djmbrown
Kerfoot, Mittelstadt, Dickinson, Duchene, Cousins. Thats only after looking at a third of the league. Ya I’d take every one of those guys over Haula.



Flames just did it with Tkachuk. So not sure how they’re “not real”. I love when guys say “we’re not” doing this or that as if they have any idea what the GM would do or wouldn’t do in real life. This site is for ideas, not statements as if you know anything about what a GM would or would not do lol
Maybe chill a bit dude.


Tkachuk was an RFA. Not a UFA, hope this helps.
Dec. 2, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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hanifin at 8m is HORRIBLE. So by your logic is to waste 14m on two players... meaning we can resign players.. God that terrible is TERRIBLE. There are goalies are there who are cheaper and better.


This is coming from the guy who thinks Saros is the worst goalie lmao so I’m probably not going to listen to a thing you have to say lol
 
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