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Created by: Duggysdanglers
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 12, 2023
Published: Dec. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Tanev trade might be viewed as an overpay but I think it’s solid value for the Leafs.

I am sure the Flames will try to do more hockey trades instead of a full on rebuild. They need to do the latter.
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Bichsel, Lian
  2. 2024 1st round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Trade comes with an extension. 8 x $7,500,000.
2.
CGY
  1. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
3.
CGY
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
4.
CGY
  1. 2024 7th round pick (CHI)
5.
CGY
  1. Rees, Jamieson
  2. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Lindholm, Elias ($2,425,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$75,494,166$0$1,077,500$8,005,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$839,167$839,167
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$828,333$828,333
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$845,833$845,833 ($0$0$0$0)
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$817,778$817,778 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA - 2

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Dec. 12, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Of your major deals first 2 greatly favor Calgary. Lindholm I'll say should get a Horvat type return if done early of 1st + Good prospect+ decent player to balance the salaries.
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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Leafs pass everyday of the week unless you want to add Hanifin in half retained to lol
Dec. 12, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.
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Tanev wouldn't be worth that if he was 3 years younger with some term and not currently injured
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.
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Hanifin Trade should have a 3rd/Dellandrea/Kyrou/Minnetian attached for the Retention as well

Flames should consider extending Greer, but if not, a 4th is a decent return, especially considering we picked him up for nothing. He's a Good & Gritty Depth Player

Tanev deal is an over pay by TOR, but that's what it'll take. I'd like to see a 1st or (Liljegren/Minten + Abruzzese/Villeneuve) + Jarnkrok FOR Tanev 50% Retained

Doubt we get anything for Oesterle

That Lindholm Trade is WAY light... How about CAR's 2024-1st + Necas + Drury FOR Lindholm 50% Retained + Dillon Dube instead!?

Perhaps CAR would also be interested in Anthony Deangelo + Antti Raanta FOR Adam Vladar + Walker Duehr as well...
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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Devs counter the Dallas trade for Hanifin with Bahl and a 1st. Something for retention added (only if we need it for Hamilton coming back which is still a TBD)
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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Devs counter the Dallas trade for Hanifin with Bahl and a 1st. Something for retention added (only if we need it for Hamilton coming back which is still a TBD)

Flames would much rather have Bischel over Bahl
Dec. 12, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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Flames would much rather have Bischel over Bahl


Sure ok I dont know about Bischel but it seems like other than a mean streak, they are pretty much the same type of player. Bischel "projects" to be a higher player. Assume Bischel will need 1.5-2 yrs getting to NHL games. Our 1st currently will be higher than Dallas'. Find an add (please don't reply with Mercer) and discuss
Dec. 12, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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Well that does not look good for Tanev he may be injured now.
And if our GM offered that for Tanev our entire city would riot!(Even non hockey fans!)
If we are shopping here TML will revert the Tanev trade and take Hanifin and Greer please with a side of Stanley Cup!
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Hanifin Trade should have a 3rd/Dellandrea/Kyrou/Minnetian attached for the Retention as well

Flames should consider extending Greer, but if not, a 4th is a decent return, especially considering we picked him up for nothing. He's a Good & Gritty Depth Player

Tanev deal is an over pay by TOR, but that's what it'll take. I'd like to see a 1st or (Liljegren/Minten + Abruzzese/Villeneuve) + Jarnkrok FOR Tanev 50% Retained

Doubt we get anything for Oesterle

That Lindholm Trade is WAY light... How about CAR's 2024-1st + Necas + Drury FOR Lindholm 50% Retained + Dillon Dube instead!?

Perhaps CAR would also be interested in Anthony Deangelo + Antti Raanta FOR Adam Vladar + Walker Duehr as well...


He remember when you said Zadorov was going to get a 1st plus because "that's what it will take!"? Did you miss what he went for? And now you still think you are going to get a ridiculous return? You must really want to get lit up on here.
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Hanifin Trade should have a 3rd/Dellandrea/Kyrou/Minnetian attached for the Retention as well

Flames should consider extending Greer, but if not, a 4th is a decent return, especially considering we picked him up for nothing. He's a Good & Gritty Depth Player

Tanev deal is an over pay by TOR, but that's what it'll take. I'd like to see a 1st or (Liljegren/Minten + Abruzzese/Villeneuve) + Jarnkrok FOR Tanev 50% Retained

Doubt we get anything for Oesterle

That Lindholm Trade is WAY light... How about CAR's 2024-1st + Necas + Drury FOR Lindholm 50% Retained + Dillon Dube instead!?

Perhaps CAR would also be interested in Anthony Deangelo + Antti Raanta FOR Adam Vladar + Walker Duehr as well...


That's a freaking insanely heavy return for a low-1C/high 2C. CAR's 2024-1st + Necas + Drury FOR Lindholm 50% Retained + Dillon Dube is an absolute rip off. A pretty decent prospect + 1st is more than a fair deal
Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Canes aren’t going to move their first for a rental, especially considering they aren’t going to give Lindholm the extension he will undoubtedly be asking for.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Hanifin Trade should have a 3rd/Dellandrea/Kyrou/Minnetian attached for the Retention as well

Flames should consider extending Greer, but if not, a 4th is a decent return, especially considering we picked him up for nothing. He's a Good & Gritty Depth Player

Tanev deal is an over pay by TOR, but that's what it'll take. I'd like to see a 1st or (Liljegren/Minten + Abruzzese/Villeneuve) + Jarnkrok FOR Tanev 50% Retained

Doubt we get anything for Oesterle

That Lindholm Trade is WAY light... How about CAR's 2024-1st + Necas + Drury FOR Lindholm 50% Retained + Dillon Dube instead!?

Perhaps CAR would also be interested in Anthony Deangelo + Antti Raanta FOR Adam Vladar + Walker Duehr as well...


I see you kept your address in fantasyland.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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COL isn’t revisiting Greer that’s an easy no
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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This post is a classic example of the leafs must pay more "just because they are the leafs"... and maybe there would be a "Brad Tax" or whatever for the leafs haha but that doesn't mean they are overpaying just for the sake of it. For this package they can certainly aim a little higher then Tanev.

Of the flames three major rental trade chips they have left...Tanev would have the least value, yet you have him bringing in a larger package from the leafs then what they would get for Hanifin and Lindholm. Let's say all three 2024 first rounders from the leafs, stars, and canes have essentially the same value in a trade for a sellar with the strong possibility of them all being late in the first round,

Domi, Minten and Villeneuve > Bichel
Domi, Minten and Villeneuve > Rees

Admittedly, I am no expert on Bichel or Rees...but on first glance it appears that Bichel is a big, stay at home type defender who was a high pick and still only 19 and Rees is a smaller 22 year old centre who hasn't played any nhl games yet and has no points so far this year in the AHL. Both may have a future in the league, but in my opinion alone they would have less value then Domi, Minten and Villeneuve.

Let's just hypothetically say one of Bichel or Rees was equivalent to Domi/Minten/Villeneuve...Tanev does not carry the value of a Hanifin or Lindholm considering his age and injury history, so in no way would he justify bringing back such a package. Also, considering the fact that the flames are retaining on Lindholm and Hanifin as well, and Hanifin even comes with an extension for the stars!

This return for Tanev is unattainable, just not going to happen... however they may get a little more for Hanifin if he signs an extension with the trading team and I think they might get a little more for Lindholm - but based on the return for Zadorov and Toffoli I wouldn't put much faith in Conroy pulling it off (and I am aware that the jury is still out on Treliving for the leafs as well haha don't worry, I am nervously waiting for him to make a trade).
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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Avs decline. Been there, done that.
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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Colorado is flush with bottom six wings (Wood, LOC, Cogliano, Kiviranta, MacDermid, Meyers, & I'd argue Olofsson would be better at wing than center). The Avs really need centers.
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
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