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Prices for Habs vets

Created by: Campabee
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 16, 2023
Published: Dec. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Trades aren't team need oriented, just value oriented

Obviously not everyone will be moved and most likely only 2-4 will be

These are our starting points, if you want a player you have to meet these minimums
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Hvidston, Connor [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
2nd and AHL ceiling prospect not retaining at all
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Maybe a 4th if we are lucky
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (PIT)
4.
MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (ANA)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (SJS)
ANA
  1. Monahan, Sean ($992,500 retained)
5.
MTL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (ANA)
6.
MTL
  1. 2025 1st round pick (ANA)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (ANA)
7.
MTL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
Additional Details:
Young struggling forward with similar upside
8.
MTL
  1. Raanta, Antti
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
2nd and cap offset or 3rd straight up
9.
MTL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (ARI)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
It's gonna cost for a top 4 D man on pace for 50+ points and on agreat contract
10.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
11.
MTL
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
Additional Details:
Similar cap or as part of a package for cap purposes only
12.
MTL
  1. 2025 4th round pick (WPG)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the ANA
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2025
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Logo of the ANA
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Logo of the PIT
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Logo of the ANA
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
16$83,500,000$51,720,416$1,170,000$3,977,500$31,779,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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Rangers say no.
Our hole is forward, not defense. We're not moving a forward for a defenseman.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Rangers easily pass lol
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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Quoting: slater417
Rangers say no.
Our hole is forward, not defense. We're not moving a forward for a defenseman.


Quoting: Rags21
Rangers easily pass lol


Read team description, teams don't matter it was just to show the type of return
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Read team description, teams don't matter it was just to show the type of return


Then your better comparison would probably be Wahlstrom and not kakko
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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rangers pass.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Then your better comparison would probably be Wahlstrom and not kakko


I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.


Values change year to year based on many factors, however I don't think anyone ever said 3 1st round picks lol, a 1st and good prospect sure but never 3 1sts
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory


If putting up 40 points and above average defense is labeled as a bust, then man there’s a lot of bust players still playing in the nhl lol
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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You’d be lucky to get positive value for any of Anderson, Armia, Dvorak, or Savard. Your asking prices for them are ridiculous
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I only used Kakko cause he is struggling and flirting with bust territory


Kakko is currently injured. We just went through this with laf.
Kakko put up 40 points at mostly even strenght last season.
Thats about a 55-60 point season with PP points.
He's also a very very good 2 way defender.
Kakko is easily a top 6 player, and looked like a top line player at the begining of the season.
I appreciate that the Hab fans think the rangers are their farm system. But we're not. Move off the rangers.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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So it will be a quiet deadline for the Habs
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Holy cow. The delusion is just off the charts for this one here.
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Values change year to year based on many factors, however I don't think anyone ever said 3 1st round picks lol, a 1st and good prospect sure but never 3 1sts


On ACGM, there were some Habs fans suggesting Kent could get three 1sts. Just the offers to NJD alone were mind-boggling.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
If putting up 40 points and above average defense is labeled as a bust, then man there’s a lot of bust players still playing in the nhl lol


One 40 point season and three >20 point season and on pace for a fourth for a former 2nd ova pick is most definitely flirting with bust territory, don't believe that look at Galchenyuk and Sherbek
Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
One 40 point season and three >20 point season and on pace for a fourth for a former 2nd ova pick is most definitely flirting with bust territory, don't believe that look at Galchenyuk and Sherbek


There’s a difference between being a bust and not reaching 2nd overall potential

He’s still very much an NHLer at age 22, which is still very young. Remember that guy Tage Thompson who did absolutely nothing until a year or 2 ago? Lol
Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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There’s a difference between being a bust and not reaching 2nd overall potential

He’s still very much an NHLer at age 22, which is still very young. Remember that guy Tage Thompson who did absolutely nothing until a year or 2 ago? Lol


I said flirting with, not achieved yet
Dec. 16, 2023 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I said flirting with, not achieved yet


Worst case scenario, he’s a 3rd line defensive forward who has some offensive upside

Not every single high drafted forward turns out to be crosby, Hughes, Mcdavid, Barkov, Matthews, etc..
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Kakko: Dach or Newhook price
Anderson, Armia, Dvorak: Cap dump
Allen without retention: Cap dump
Savard: very little value imo
Matheson is a tier below the Chychrun value imo so 1st+3rd
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Dec. 16, 2023 at 11:30 p.m.
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Overvaluing your bad contracts and cap dumps.
Dec. 16, 2023 at 11:50 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Wait a second….

Josh Anderson (who hits) was worth “three 1st round picks” just a few months ago. We were told that Kent could have had Luke Hughes or Simon Nemec plus a 1st round pick for Anderson (who hits). Now he would agree to only a 2nd rounder?

Maybe consider a new GM.


This is just lame ad nauseam rhetoric posted over and over. If he ever does get traded I'd say not to log in again. The return will be more than this ACGM
Dec. 17, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
This is just lame ad nauseam rhetoric posted over and over. If he ever does get traded I'd say not to log in again. The return will be more than this ACGM


There were a few months where Habs fans were convinced NJD were offering huge packages and Kent was declining them (Hughes, Nemec, multiple 1sts…). Lebrun later said that Devils never even called about Anderson.

(And no one is paying positive value for Anderson)
 
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