Tanev doesn't want to play for Vancouver. He said that.

Myers sucks. Keep him

Do you have a link to a quote from Tanev saying that?

I follow the Tanev situation closely, all the comments I've seen from him were criticizing the previous Canuck regime, not the city. Tanev stated in a recent article he didn't envision ever leaving Vancouver and that he loved playing here.

"I thought I was for sure gonna be back in Van. It was right after the bubble, obviously a lot of COVID stuff, and so I was just waiting and waiting for a contract, waiting, and they’d tell Wade [Arnott], my agent, ‘It’s coming, it’s coming.’ I mean, I think they were trying to make some other moves, and I was on the backburner, which was fine. It’s part of the business of hockey. But I definitely didn’t envision not being in Vancouver."

"When I didn’t have an offer [from Benning] going into free agency, it was sort of like, oh baby, it’s going to change. I was sort of upset by it all."

Tanev wanted to go back to Vancouver. It was reported that he was hoping he was gonna be moved there instead of Zadorov, and that he’d still welcome a return either via trade or free agency

When did he say that?

Trades 1 and 2 yes.
Trades 3 and 4 declined and really confusing.

Why are the Ducks retaining lol

Myers has no value. Retain 50% and then send a 3rd to another team for another 50% retention and you can get future considerations for Myers but he has no value. He's brutal

Tyler Myers has 0 value

yeah that's not true at all.

myers at double retained has plenty of value

for a 5th round draft pick. pretty common for teams to retain extra for a pick. Minnesota did it twice last deadline, montreal did it for the bonino trade to pitt, arizona did it for the patrick kane trade, florida did it in 2022 for when max domi was traded to carolina, san jose retain on janmark going to vegas form chi and on foligno going to tor from cbj, and tor did it in 2020 for lehner going from chi to vegas.

usually, teams earn a 4th or 5th for doing so (although arizona got a 3rd for retaining on Kane because it was a much bigger amount than normal)

Ben Chiarot (who was and is much worse than Tanev), was traded for a 1st, 4th, and a prospect.. how can you justify paying only a 1st and a 4th for Tanev for DOUBLE retention plus you also receive picks as well?

Awful return for Calgary. They’ll get a better one elsewhere.

double retention does not impact calgary. calgary is retaining 50%. Chiarot was retained at 50%. in this trade, the canucks are paying anaheim for the additional retention.

you may think chiarot is worse, but he was very highly valued by both montreal and florida. he played 23:33 per night in montreal before the trade (led the team) and then played 20:56 per night for florida after the trade. he was viewed as a top pairing dman and ate up a lot of the minutes before ekblad came back from injury.

also, the chiarot trade is universally viewed as an overpay with hindsight

obviously, chiarots physical style and net front play was very highly valued (read: overvalued). he was also 30, not 34. this is also why he was able to command a 4 year 4.75 million contract after that season.

he was the 2nd highest value defenceman that season for trade return, only hampus lindholm got more who was in his prime and is universally seen as better better.

giordano was traded at 50% retained for two 2nds and a 3rd. kulak 50% was a 2nd, a 7th, and a prospect. leddy at 50% was trade for walman (before he broke out), a 2nd and a cap dump in sunqvist. Manson at 50% retained was a 2nd and a prospect. and that's all just form the 2022 deadline when chiarot was moved!

this trade is completely in line with comparables and you are selecting the most lopsided trade you can to juice tanevs value.

tanev plays 18:44 per night, which is significantly less than weegar (22:04), hanafin (23:11) and andersson (24:23). in fact, his usage is most similar to how zadorov (18:24) was used, and we all know what calgary ended up getting for zadorov in a trade.

trading a #4/#5, 34 year old dman who mostly plays 3rd pairing minutes 5v5 and top pk minutes, who is a rental and has a history of injury problems and getting a first back is impressive. the only reason why its possible is because tanev is very good at what he does, but he is far from a 1st pairing dman like he was from 2014-2022. his played has slowed down and he would be probably the 4th or 5th most used dman on the canucks.

if we are only getting a third I do not think we move duclair.

Besides I have a feeling he will be re-signed he seems to get along really well w/ the young guys

Did he say that in the same dream where you were an NHL executive? Because it appears that you are the only one who has heard him say that.

I mean, SJ acquired him for a 5th and an AHL player. This is good asset management

oh yeah ik Im not saying the trade is bad, I just kind of think the sharks would want an overpay for him, but I could be wrong

ohh okay i get what your saying now. yeah, hard to predict deadline values cause all teams value their guys differently