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What would be the market for selling Dougie

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Team: 2024-25 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 5, 2024
Published: Jan. 5, 2024
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I don’t want to sell him, but would have to be considered for a few reasons….

1. Nemec has played well beyond expectations and unlikely he is ever sent down again.
2. We have Marino locked up.
3. Dougie history…3 years in Boston, 3 years in Calgary, 3 years in Carolina, 3 years in New Jersey…(for fans of symmetry)
4. Big cap hit
5. Luke already replaced Dougie on PP1 before the injury.
6. It makes for good outside-the-box ACGM (the real reason)

Where would he go?

- Probably outside the division
- Team with cap space
- Team on bubble
- Team that needs top-4 RHD
- Team with need for offensive dman
- Team he would waive NTC to

Rough guess….
Arizona
Buffalo
Calgary (again)
Florida (if Forsling and/or Montour move on)
Minnesota
Nashville
St Louis
Winnipeg

How much would get?

Some comps to consider
- Subban: Two 2nds and lesser pieces.
- Karlsson: Five overpaid guys and 1st
- Jones: two 1sts, 2nd
- Weber: Subban

I don’t think NJD would have much interest in picks only transaction. So would probably look for something like a lesser defensive dman plus a forward or goalie.

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Again, I don’t think we move him. But am curious what the Dougie market would look like.
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Jan. 5 at 11:45 a.m.
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There wouldn't be a huge market just because of the cap hit but he has a full nmc doesn't he so it would make it even harder.
Jan. 5 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
There wouldn't be a huge market just because of the cap hit but he has a full nmc doesn't he so it would make it even harder.


He's had some long injuries too. Isn't he LTIR right now?
Jan. 5 at 11:49 a.m.
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Chabot 1 for 1
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Jan. 5 at 11:52 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 5 at 12:03 p.m.
*Cracks knuckles*

Armia, Allen, Savard and a 4th.

My job here is done.

Edit: I guess I could also give a realistic response also haha. I think your parameters will ultimately have to bend a little as so few teams can make that work. I think taking the futures off the table is not the way to go as you could just flip those futures for the thing you want from other teams and is probably the best option IMHO. So maybe find the best value trade available and work a 3 way with another team or simply go and get the individual things you wanted from the deal in separate deals using the futures you got from the Hamilton trade.
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Jan. 5 at 12:03 p.m.
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Eat half the contract and talk to the Canes…
Jan. 5 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Jfstompers
There wouldn't be a huge market just because of the cap hit but he has a full nmc doesn't he so it would make it even harder.


Also reportedly not a great locker room guy
Jan. 5 at 12:08 p.m.
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Eat half the contract and talk to the Canes…


I'll eat half the contract for Morrow Necas and a 1st
Jan. 5 at 12:13 p.m.
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2026 1st Conditional based on playing 75% of games and you also have to include McLeod

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I'll eat half the contract for Morrow Necas and a 1st
Jan. 5 at 12:16 p.m.
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2026 1st Conditional based on playing 75% of games and you also have to include McLeod


Mcleod is another 1st if you want him.

Mcleod+Dougie 50% for Necas+24 1st+25 1st+Morrow
Jan. 5 at 12:18 p.m.
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Mcleod is another 1st if you want him.

Mcleod+Dougie 50% for Necas+24 1st+25 1st+Morrow
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Jan. 5 at 12:21 p.m.
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Dougie at full price: 1st+ (karlsson comp)
22.5 million dollars in retention: necas+Morrow (honestly probably a touch light for this much retention
Mcleod: 1st

Seems like you're getting a bargain
Jan. 5 at 12:22 p.m.
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We’re good, good luck with Dougie.

Quoting: dgibb10
Dougie at full price: 1st+ (karlsson comp)
22.5 million dollars in retention: necas+Morrow (honestly probably a touch light for this much retention
Mcleod: 1st

Seems like you're getting a bargain
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Jan. 5 at 12:25 p.m.
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We’re good, good luck with Dougie.


We’ll keep him. You asked for a star RD, 22.5 million dollars in retention, and another quality young center. And were shocked when it costs you big
Jan. 5 at 12:33 p.m.
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Not shocked, but just consider the luminosity of the star you refer to. Canes know the player well, and how good he can be. But ‘star’ is a bit much. He’s good, not great and there is a reason the Canes didn’t re-sign.

Good luck, especially in the playoffs if he’s healthy.

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We’ll keep him. You asked for a star RD, 22.5 million dollars in retention, and another quality young center. And were shocked when it costs you big
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Jan. 5 at 12:37 p.m.
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Not shocked, but just consider the luminosity of the star you refer to. Canes know the player well, and how good he can be. But ‘star’ is a bit much. He’s good, not great and there is a reason the Canes didn’t re-sign.

Good luck, especially in the playoffs if he’s healthy.


I'm aware of what dougie is. which is why I didn't ask for much for him. I had a 1st, and a part of that pays for the retention and the+ i'd ask for on Mcleod.


Necas=2 1sts
Morrow=1.5 1sts (equal with Seamus casey)
2 1sts=2 1sts
Total: 5.5 1sts

22.5 mill= 3.75 1sts
Mcleod=1.25 1sts
Total: 5 1sts

So 9 mill dougie here costs like a 2nd
Jan. 5 at 12:40 p.m.
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Any team acquiring Dougie would regret it. M
He is slowing and injury prone. He is 2 years from being an boat anchor
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Jan. 5 at 12:43 p.m.
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Any team acquiring Dougie would regret it. M
He is slowing and injury prone. He is 2 years from being an boat anchor


Well he had a career year last year, and scored an overtime game winner in the playoffs.
While he may be injury prone, I dont think hes slowing down yet..
Jan. 5 at 12:51 p.m.
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The biggest factor is whether Dougie approves a trade lol. He's changed teams 3 times already and I doubt he wants to move again.

There's a reason he has a full NTC and has big signing bonuses on the back end of his contract.
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Jan. 5 at 1:54 p.m.
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probably gonna have to pay another team to take his albatross of a contract. I'd say Dougie a 1st and a 2nd for future considerations would be the most realistic deal
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probably gonna have to pay another team to take his albatross of a contract. I'd say Dougie a 1st and a 2nd for future considerations would be the most realistic deal


Damn I can't even imagine how many 1sts it costs to dump trouba then
Jan. 5 at 1:56 p.m.
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Damn I can't even imagine how many 1sts it costs to dump trouba then


Considering Trouba is actually a good player he'd probably net a decent package in return but there'd be no reason for the Rangers to trade such a valuable piece so it's not even a relevant thought experiment
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Jan. 5 at 1:57 p.m.
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Considering Trouba is actually a good player he'd probably net a decent package in return but there'd be no reason for the Rangers to trade such a valuable piece so it's not even a relevant thought experiment


Dougie: elite 1st pair dman
Trouba: mediocre 2nd pair dman
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Jan. 5 at 1:58 p.m.
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Dougie: elite 1st pair dman
Trouba: mediocre 2nd pair dman


Why are you on a hockey-related website if you don't watch hockey?
Jan. 5 at 1:59 p.m.
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Why are you on a hockey-related website if you don't watch hockey?


Trouba has been getting outchanced by the opposing team when he’s on the ice for 6 years and counting now.

Has he considered playing better?
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Jan. 5 at 2:03 p.m.
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Trouba has been getting outchanced by the opposing team when he’s on the ice for 6 years and counting now.

Has he considered playing better?


Trouba is +9, Hamilton is -8. Trouba has double the points excluding PP, which is is not on, and he actually plays defense unlike Hamilton. Plus he isn't a locker room cancer who has never lasted longer than three years on a team. Plus he is an actual leader. Hamilton wishes he was Trouba.
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