If you want a clear example in recent events of a forward with more or less production than Monahan (28 pts in 45 games) that went for a 1st plus with conditions. Andrew Copp (35 pts in 56 games)

If you want a clear example in recent events of a forward with more or less production than Monahan (28 pts in 45 games) that went for a 1st plus with conditions. Andrew Copp (35 pts in 56 games)

Now consider that Copp comes with a whole bucket of extras. He's a defensive minded player, can play in any situation, etc, etc, etc.

I just revisited the return price and I was shocked. Wow! Its incredible for anyone to think Monahan cant go for just a late 1st when Copp and a 6th returned a 1st, a 2nd, 5th and Morgan Barron return.

Add to that Copp had no retention and 3.6M AAV. Checkmate.

I just revisited the return price and I was shocked. Wow! Its incredible for anyone to think Monahan cant go for just a late 1st when Copp and a 6th returned a 1st, a 2nd, 5th and Morgan Barron return.

Add to that Copp had no retention and 3.6M AAV. Checkmate.

When you say things like "checkmate" to support your argument you've already lost the argument.

But you already lost it when you said Monahan will get a 1st.

As someone said earlier, "Good luck."

Monahan Analytics are quite poor besides stating face offs, pp production he won't have pp1 and scarcity why he's worth a 1st?

Novak would get more than a 2nd cmon now. That contract and you have the Tanner Jeannot, Brandon Hagel examples. Contenders will bend over backwards for that small AAV which also makes Monahan very valuable at retention with an under 1m cap hit.

Add to that most of those centers arent available atm including Novak when the Preds are in a playoff push.

Pending ufa One way 3rd line c who is a power play merchant on a bad team and wouldnt get that slot on a good team? And demanding a 1st for him?
Lol, good luck, enjoy loosing him as a ufa

Yes, demanding, and GETTING a 1st for him.

Oh... and you're the one who wrote 'lol' ? Thinking you had all the hockey knowledge of trade deadline market?

LMAO.

Lol, you really went to a week + old comment to brag. Congrats on the jets being stupid. Im excited for this to look even more of a bad trade for them as the weeks go one.

It's because almost NOBODY here understand MARKET VALUE.
They just see the player and are dumb blind to supply-and--demand.

Only Habs-haters wanted to force their opinion by wishing the Habs would not get a 1st, when everyone knew they would, including 100% of actual UNBIASED experts.

Habs haters looked stupid again here.

Or Winnipeg made a bad trade and this is guaranteed to backfire spectacularly. Im very amused that you seem to think Winnipeg making bad trades is some sort of own, but hey, life is easy when you can just chalk up the wins and ignore the dozen other 1st rounder fails habs fans have demanded round here

You have stated non stop that Monahan wasn't worth a 1st.
Only Hab haters say that - everyone who was able to be level headed and look at market value KNEW he was worth a 1st.
Obviously, no humility from you; you're not going to say "I was wrong", but you were.

All hockey experts knew.

Habs fans only said he was worth a 1st.
He returned a 1st.

That's all.

Yeah, and im still right. He isnt worth a 1st.
Cost isnt value, that's why there are bad trades and good ones. The jets got clocked here, unless you think foligno was worth a 1st, or that pile of garden waste was worth joe thornton.
Habs fans have the hardest time with what value is, i swear

Yes and you're still right?

Wow.

MARKET VALUE.
MARKET VALUE.

It's not just value; it's supply, demand, trade deadline, and market for pendig UFA centers.

And yet you still take a shot at Habs fans, who were right. And you were wrong.

Habs fans said he would fetch a 1st. And he did.
So they were right.
You said he would not fetch a 1st, and he did. You were wrong.

No one was talking about your gut instaint as "value in a vacuum".
Everyone is talking about MARKET value.

you were wrong.
Period.

And you can't deal with that.

those are really good arguments.

Good luck

Monahan Analytics are quite poor besides stating face offs, pp production he won't have pp1 and scarcity why he's worth a 1st?

Value is relative to the market. In Monahan's case you need to first examine how many better centers are out there and available. Lindholm is obviously the best in show. He will get a 1st +. Then you have a load of guys behind him, in the Monahan area, who might get moved. Monahan, Novak, Wennberg, Henrique. That glut of competition isn't good for the Habs and Monahan, it will drive the price down. Why trade a 1st for Monahan when I could trade a 2nd for Novak? Will 3 teams all trade 1sts for centers? That would be a very rare occurrence.

Then he'll remain a Hab. 🙄

Pending ufa One way 3rd line c who is a power play merchant on a bad team and wouldnt get that slot on a good team? And demanding a 1st for him?
Lol, good luck, enjoy loosing him as a ufa

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

When you say things like "checkmate" to support your argument you've already lost the argument.

But you already lost it when you said Monahan will get a 1st.

As someone said earlier, "Good luck."

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

Victory lapping for a late 1st and a (ambitious) Stanley cup conditional 3rd. There is basically no difference between a late first and a 2nd + prospects.

I hope this victory gets you through the rest of the year.

Don't be sour just because you don't know **** about puck.
Stick to football

Of all teams, I think you’d know that picture is of Sebastian Aho. Congrats on your victory.