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Big trades coming

Created by: AdamL188
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 14, 2024
Published: Feb. 14, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Would appreciate feedback (especially on DET and NJD trades)
pls no bully me :(
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Gritsyuk, Arseni [Reserve List]
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
Additional Details:
8x7.5 in place
2.
CGY
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
  3. 2026 4th round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
3.
CGY
  1. Kasper, Marco
  2. Määttä, Olli
  3. 2024 1st round pick (DET)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (DAL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the DET
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Logo of the VAN
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the DAL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the CGY
2025
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
2026
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the CGY
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Logo of the VAN
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Logo of the VAN
Logo of the CGY
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$74,358,332$0$1,077,500$9,141,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$855,833$855,833
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1

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Feb. 14 at 8:02 p.m.
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Take out Gritysuk
Feb. 14 at 8:06 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Take out Gritysuk


I tried to make it similar to the Hampus Lindholm trade in value. You wouldn't win the bidding war without Gritysuk or equal value (Stillman+3rd; Clarke+3rd; etc...)

Also depends on where that 1st would end up being.
Feb. 14 at 8:09 p.m.
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Devils accept. Hanifin at $3.75m x 8 would be worth it.
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Feb. 14 at 8:10 p.m.
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(Not sure CGY wants to pay $3.75m for 8 years though)
Feb. 14 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
I tried to make it similar to the Hampus Lindholm trade in value. You wouldn't win the bidding war without Gritysuk or equal value (Stillman+3rd; Clarke+3rd; etc...)

Also depends on where that 1st would end up being.


This is a fair bit more than Hampus Lindholm got.

You want a 1st rounder that's currently 15th overall

You aren't taking a cap dump

(also you can't trade him with an extension in place unless you want to retain on the entire extesnion)

You want 3rd+Bahl+Gritysuk instead of 2nd+2nd+Vaak which is more

Our 1st+Bahl+3rd is equivalent to what Anaheim got
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Feb. 14 at 8:20 p.m.
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Take out Kasper and Detroit accepts.
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Feb. 14 at 8:21 p.m.
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Gritsyuk isn't getting moved. Bahl, Clarke, 2024 1st is enough
Feb. 14 at 8:22 p.m.
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Would you do something like Seamus Casey, Graeme Clarke, and a 3rd
Feb. 14 at 8:25 p.m.
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No f’n way Det accepts that!
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Feb. 14 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
I tried to make it similar to the Hampus Lindholm trade in value. You wouldn't win the bidding war without Gritysuk or equal value (Stillman+3rd; Clarke+3rd; etc...)

Also depends on where that 1st would end up being.


People are trying to over complicate this by not valuing prospects appropriately. A 1st and a 2nd for Hanifan retained.
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Feb. 14 at 9:13 p.m.
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A rebuilding Detroit has no interest in a 34 year old Jacob Markstrom, And we're not giving up Marco Kasper for an aging Goalie. And besides i doubt he'd even waive his NMC for a young rebuilding team.
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Feb. 14 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
People are trying to over complicate this by not valuing prospects appropriately. A 1st and a 2nd for Hanifan retained.


nah he getting way more. Hampus lindholm got a 1st, 2 2nd's and some mid prospects
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Feb. 14 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Devsfan25
Would you do something like Seamus Casey, Graeme Clarke, and a 3rd


prolly yeah.
Feb. 14 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
A rebuilding Detroit has no interest in a 34 year old Jacob Markstrom, And we're not giving up Marco Kasper for an aging Goalie. And besides i doubt he'd even waive his NMC for a young rebuilding team.


Quoting: Stevierebz
No f’n way Det accepts that!


Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Take out Kasper and Detroit accepts.


I heard a podcast mention it and saw someone else make a mock. Tried it out but ig ppl arent fans of the idea.
Feb. 14 at 9:43 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Devils accept. Hanifin at $3.75m x 8 would be worth it.


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(Not sure CGY wants to pay $3.75m for 8 years though)


I meant only his current contract with 1 yr left
Feb. 14 at 10:00 p.m.
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I meant only his current contract with 1 yr left


If they extend him first, the retention applies to all remaining salary. If he is traded at deadline he can still get 8-years for that club.
Feb. 15 at 12:03 a.m.
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No way Vancouver is giving away that many draft picks to Calgary for Chris Tanev.
No thanks.
Feb. 15 at 12:37 a.m.
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nah he getting way more. Hampus lindholm got a 1st, 2 2nd's and some mid prospects


If you are taking Vanecek, I could see you getting an extra second. That wouldnt even be the equivalent of John Moore’s terrible contract, which basically funded Bergeron and the incremental money for Krejci. Trying to figure out the equivalent of Urho. It isn’t much.

You are getting a first and a second with retention. Maybe a fringe prospect that is basically a throwaway. That’s what Lindholm would have gotten without that bad contract added.

I’m curious if the rumors of mutual interest in his hometown with sufficient cap room and need limits the price a team is willing to give
Feb. 15 at 1:00 a.m.
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If you are taking Vanecek, I could see you getting an extra second. That wouldnt even be the equivalent of John Moore’s terrible contract, which basically funded Bergeron and the incremental money for Krejci. Trying to figure out the equivalent of Urho. It isn’t much.

You are getting a first and a second with retention. Maybe a fringe prospect that is basically a throwaway. That’s what Lindholm would have gotten without that bad contract added.

I’m curious if the rumors of mutual interest in his hometown with sufficient cap room and need limits the price a team is willing to give


Devils will keep Vanacek if he costs a 2nd to dump. His play has been fine since December.
Feb. 15 at 1:13 a.m.
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Devils will keep Vanacek if he costs a 2nd to dump. His play has been fine since December.


I’m just trying to show a comparably bad contract for the Calgary fans that conveniently disregard the cap dump of John Moore. You know I think he sucks and he is making $3.4m over the next two years
Feb. 15 at 1:25 a.m.
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I’m just trying to show a comparably bad contract for the Calgary fans that conveniently disregard the cap dump of John Moore. You know I think he sucks and he is making $3.4m over the next two years


Yeah but your general base of comparison is Jeremy Swayman and Linus Ullmark and the bruins haven’t had a bad goalie in like 2 decades so I think you have somewhat lofty expectations understandably
Feb. 15 at 4:38 a.m.
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I'd say drop the 3rd to a later pick from the Vancouver and you have fair value
Feb. 15 at 9:12 a.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
I heard a podcast mention it and saw someone else make a mock. Tried it out but ig ppl arent fans of the idea.


Kasper was 8OA in '22, and has scored like 20 points in his last 30 games after a slow start because he was injured for most of the summer.

No team would trade him nor goalie would return him unless it's an insane deal.
 
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