Where would you like to see markstrom go

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Created by: Redmile04

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 18, 2024

Published: Mar. 18, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

After the playoffs, we could see if colorado or new jersey could have used markstrom

Trades

CGY

Mercer, Dawson
2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD

Retain twenty five percent of expiring contract

CGY

O'Connor, Logan
Ritchie, Calum [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Retained 25%of expiring Contract

CGY

Bernard-Docker, Jacob
Rees, Jamieson
2024 2nd round pick (OTT)

OTT

25% retention expiring Contract

Retained Salary Transactions

Noah Hanifin: $2,475,000 (50%)
Christopher Tanev: $2,250,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
30	$87,500,000	$86,042,500	$0	$1,560,000	$1,457,500

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4
Pelletier, Jakob $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Coronato, Matthew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 2
Hunt, Dryden $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Rooney, Kevin $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 1	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Rees, Jamieson $839,167$839,167 C RFA - 1	Pospisil, Martin $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 1
		Greer, AJ $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Mercer, Dawson $894,167$894,167 ($400,000$400K) RW, C RFA - 1
		O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($15,000$15K) G RFA - 1
Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Bernard-Docker, Jacob $805,000$805,000 RD RFA - 2	Miromanov, Daniil $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Pachal, Brayden $775,000$775,000 RD RFA - 2
Okhotiuk, Nikita $789,167$789,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 1
Hanley, Joel $787,500$787,500 LD/RD UFA - 2
Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 2

Mar. 18 at 1:39 a.m.

Novistic

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overpay.
avs would want to go for younger anyway

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Mar. 18 at 1:41 a.m.

TJTwolf

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Avs say no.

1. Overpay
2. Unnecessary
3. Can't afford him
4. Those assets are more valuable to them individually than adding Markstrom.

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Mar. 18 at 2:30 a.m.

dgibb10

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Why are NJD and Colorado paying boatloads while Ottawa pays 2 worthless prospects and a 2nd.

NJD takes that Ottawa deal

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Mar. 18 at 7:44 a.m.

YeahDudeitsChris

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You already missed the best price for Markstrom, If he's getting moved it's going to be cheaper than any prediction at the deadline and none of those even had Mercer.

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Mar. 18 at 7:50 a.m.

Who_is_Jimmy_Stu

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I appreciate you giving the Sens a nice discount, it's been a tough year.

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Mar. 18 at 8:15 a.m.

emoprettyboy

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Sens most certainly take that, although I'll be a bit sad to not get the chance to see if Rees can make anything happen with the Sens

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Mar. 18 at 9:09 a.m.

SharkTank

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Stay in Calgary.

Dump Vladar.

Call up Wolf.

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Mar. 18 at 9:31 a.m.

Xqb15a

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I’ve seen some nonsensical trades and Markstrom to COL is nonsensical but thinking COL is going to retain on a Contract, trade their top prospect and a first for a 35 year old goalie is beyond hilarious. Hell if NJ is smart they want nothing to do with Markstrom.

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Mar. 18 at 11:37 a.m.

CJets

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New Jersey. Would love to see Holtz in a Flames jersey

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Mar. 18 at 11:38 a.m.

#10

CJets

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Quoting: SharkTank

Stay in Calgary.

Dump Vladar.

Call up Wolf.

As a Flames fan, one of our goalies has to go so we can play Wolf. But if we’re gonna rebuild, it should probably be Marky. We could get a great return for him with some great young prospects and picks.

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Mar. 18 at 2:24 p.m.

#11

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: YeahDudeitsChris

You already missed the best price for Markstrom, If he's getting moved it's going to be cheaper than any prediction at the deadline and none of those even had Mercer.

What is your counter offer?

Mar. 18 at 2:26 p.m.

#12

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: Xqb15a

Flames are retaining Markstrom expiring Contract

Mar. 18 at 2:28 p.m.

#13

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: Xqb15a

We'll. I guess we'll have to wait for the playoffs. Maybe you already have your Stanley Cup goalie 🤔.

Mar. 18 at 2:30 p.m.

#14

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: SharkTank

Stay in Calgary.

Dump Vladar.

Call up Wolf.

Where would you suggest we trade Vladar?

Mar. 18 at 2:33 p.m.

#15

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: YeahDudeitsChris

You already missed the best price for Markstrom, If he's getting moved it's going to be cheaper than any prediction at the deadline and none of those even had Mercer.

What would you think is a fair price for Markstrom? At 34 he's probably not upgrade to your Stanley Cup Goalie lol

Mar. 18 at 2:34 p.m.

#16

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Quoting: Redmile04

What would you think is a fair price for Markstrom? At 34 he's probably not upgrade to your Stanley Cup Goalie lol

At 4.5 million? 2025 lottery protected 1st. Nothing else

Mar. 18 at 2:35 p.m.

#17

Redmile04

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Quoting: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu

I appreciate you giving the Sens a nice discount, it's been a tough year.

Discount? Who would you have added to this trade?

Mar. 18 at 2:36 p.m.

#18

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: Novistic

overpay.
avs would want to go for younger anyway

What is your counter offer?

Mar. 18 at 2:55 p.m.

#19

SharkTank

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Quoting: Redmile04

Where would you suggest we trade Vladar?

To The Moon.

Mar. 18 at 3:00 p.m.

#20

Xqb15a

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Quoting: Redmile04

We'll. I guess we'll have to wait for the playoffs. Maybe you already have your Stanley Cup goalie 🤔.

Maybe but it isn’t like Markstrom has some post season super star pedigree is it? And his cap hit is $2.5M more than Georgiev, but yeah be like the Habs fans trying to convince COL fans that Price was the answer in goal for them too.

Mar. 18 at 5:11 p.m.

#21

Novistic

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editing it to have LOC instead of girard might make this trade worse for the avs tbh

Mar. 18 at 5:12 p.m.

#22

Novistic

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Quoting: Redmile04

What is your counter offer?

avs dont want a 34 year old goalie. there's no offer to be made

Mar. 18 at 5:43 p.m.

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YeahDudeitsChris

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Quoting: dgibb10

At 4.5 million? 2025 lottery protected 1st. Nothing else

Quoting: Redmile04

What would you think is a fair price for Markstrom? At 34 he's probably not upgrade to your Stanley Cup Goalie lol

I'd go up to a Lottery protected '25 First, a '25 Second and somebody like Daniil Orlov (possibly a bottom pair guy eventually). That's even a lot tbh given Markstrom's Age and the fact that there will be a bunch more options come summertime.

Edit: For reference. This is a hair under what the Devils acquired by trading prime Taylor Hall the year after he won the Hart trophy on a rental deal. This would be a max in a negotiation before I'd give up but I really think the value is less than this though

Mar. 18 at 6:16 p.m.

#24

Redmile04

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KippertheGoat

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Quoting: Xqb15a

How's price doin in NYR?

Mar. 18 at 6:52 p.m.

#25

Who_is_Jimmy_Stu

Rest is a weapon

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Quoting: Redmile04

Discount? Who would you have added to this trade?

I just said that because the Sens are giving up far less than the other deals. Mercer is a very good young player with a ton of value while COL is giving up a 1st and their top prospect easily worth another first, plus a good player in O'Connor. I'm not saying I don't think the Sens trade is bad value (I find it far more realistic than the other two) just that a 2nd, Rees (who's worth a 6th), and JBD (who is good but still only worth a 2nd/3rd) is way off when comparing it to the monstrous COL and NJD packages.

Cheers

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