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Bad contracts for veterans and picks

Created by: pmorin21
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 26, 2024
Published: Mar. 26, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2026 3rd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Grzelcyk & Shattenkirk not signing back could be a good fit for Harris to grow with Boston, near is hometown.
2.
MTL
  1. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
Additional Details:
Two bad contract, more money for SJS and Vlasic coming back home
3.
MTL
  1. 2026 4th round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Armia, Joel ($1,700,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Armia playing with Laine. Two player who grow up near each other could help Laine for is come back
4.
MTL
  1. Couturier, Sean
  2. Deslauriers, Nicolas
Additional Details:
Give the C to Konecny. And at least Couturier will play everynight in Montreal. Deslauriers cause we need a goon for those elfs. 2 pick and more money for Philly
PHI
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (MTL)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (MTL)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the COL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the WSH
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2026
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$84,500,000$77,247,083$1,022,500$3,977,500$7,252,917
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$835,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,150,000$3,150,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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Mar. 26 at 10:37 a.m.
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Why are we paying to eat phillys healthy scratches
Mar. 26 at 10:38 a.m.
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Even with retention a bottom line forward for a 4th isn’t of interest to cbj.
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Mar. 26 at 10:44 a.m.
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Vlasic has less term. Sharks obviously stick with him over Anderson
Mar. 26 at 10:45 a.m.
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elfs?
Mar. 26 at 11:05 a.m.
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When I see trades like your Harris idea, I just don't understand...
I don't agree with people's overvaluing of draft picks.

3rd rd picks have like a 15-20% chance of being NHL players. Therefore you'r trading a player with 10-15 yrs in front of him for 15-20% chance of replacing him....
Trading him for a 3rd (even a 2nd) in my opinion is moving backwards.
This is why VGK is killing it on the trades. They understand draft picks aren't as valuable as others tend to believe. Even if it's a 1st round pick.
Mar. 26 at 11:06 a.m.
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why do we know that shattenkirk and grzelcyk won't be back in boston?
Mar. 26 at 11:13 a.m.
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No thanks on Armia, you'd probably get a contender looking for cheap depth to bite, but not a current bottom-feeder trying to sort though their own mess of bottom-6 forwards and prospects. Just the wrong target.
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Mar. 26 at 11:48 a.m.
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Coots was scratched for 2 GAMES for the first time in his career because he was overused early in the season and is worn down after missing almost 2 full seasons. Yes he has a lot of term left but he’s not damaged goods. He’s a solid 3c. Not saying the Flyers wouldn’t consider that deal to get out from under that contract, but it was 2 GAMES and people are acting like he’s Ryan Johansen all of a sudden.
Mar. 26 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Black61
Why are we paying to eat phillys healthy scratches


Coots was scratched for 2 GAMES for the first time in his career because he was overused early in the season and is worn down after missing almost 2 full seasons. Yes he has a lot of term left but he’s not damaged goods. He’s a solid 3c. Not saying the Flyers wouldn’t consider that deal to get out from under that contract, but it was 2 GAMES and people are acting like he’s Ryan Johansen all of a sudden. Not to mention the scratching was mostly motivation for the team. Torts wanted the players to be fired up about it and angry at him. He is digging deep to keep the team motivated through the playoff push.
Mar. 26 at 12:02 p.m.
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I don’t see San Jose taking on a contract with an extra year and is ultimately more money. Unless there’s incentive there’s no point
Mar. 26 at 12:17 p.m.
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I don’t see San Jose taking on a contract with an extra year and is ultimately more money. Unless there’s incentive there’s no point


I’d do an Anderson for Vlasic swap from the Sharks perspective. It’s only 1 additional year and it’s a lower AAV. The incentive is that the Sharks can possibly try to rebuild Anderson’s value and then flip him for a pick while also helping to clear some of the log jam on LD.
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Mar. 26 at 1:30 p.m.
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Jackets easy pass. Armia is a 4th liner, he wouldnt play anywhere near Laine.
Mar. 26 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Chasebrown44
Coots was scratched for 2 GAMES for the first time in his career because he was overused early in the season and is worn down after missing almost 2 full seasons. Yes he has a lot of term left but he’s not damaged goods. He’s a solid 3c. Not saying the Flyers wouldn’t consider that deal to get out from under that contract, but it was 2 GAMES and people are acting like he’s Ryan Johansen all of a sudden. Not to mention the scratching was mostly motivation for the team. Torts wanted the players to be fired up about it and angry at him. He is digging deep to keep the team motivated through the playoff push.


Yes because the first captain being scratched since ed jovanovski (who had messed up hips) isnt a big deal lol.

Its a albatross deal. It pays him into his late 30s and is already struggling to be more than a 3c. He is being paid as a 1st liner.
Mar. 26 at 4:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
Yes because the first captain being scratched since ed jovanovski (who had messed up hips) isnt a big deal lol.

Its a albatross deal. It pays him into his late 30s and is already struggling to be more than a 3c. He is being paid as a 1st liner.


2 GAMES!!!
Mar. 26 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Chasebrown44
2 GAMES!!!


Hes making as much as suzuki is. Its moronic to pay that much for a 31 year old with major injury problems and whos coach is questioning his effort enough to healthy scratch him
Mar. 26 at 6:22 p.m.
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Hes making as much as suzuki is. Its moronic to pay that much for a 31 year old with major injury problems and whos coach is questioning his effort enough to healthy scratch him


I can’t handle you mouth breathers who react impulsively to every single thing torts does. Again, he was overused early in the season and is worn down after missing almost 2 seasons. Is it a bad contract? Yes. But he’s not a worthless player. He’s still one of the best defensive players and next year Id expect him to contribute more. The scratching had more to do with motivating the team than sending a message to Coots and if you can’t see that you aren’t paying attention. And *spoiler alert* it worked.
 
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