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Brady Tkachuk would be your 2nd best player

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    I know your biggest dream is to acquire him but you’re not getting him for pieces that don’t hurt to lose.

    Marino is mid
    Holtz is a struggling prospect
    Casey is the same size as a 7th grader
    10th overall isn’t that valuable in this draft. Even Buffalo and Philly would consider moving their picks in that range .

    Brady clears Hischier . Good luck
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    May 12 at 10:10 a.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Their ask will be Bedard and Demidov pick


    No it wouldn't.
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    May 12 at 10:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Their ask will be Bedard and Demidov pick


    Not at all.
    May 12 at 10:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    No it wouldn't.


    He’s just exaggerating because we don’t want Holtz and Marino.
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    May 12 at 10:32 a.m.
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    Well Jack's the best player... No need to argument there...

    I guess it then comes down to Hischier vs Tkachuk

    L. Hughes vs Tkachuk

    Hamilton vs Tkachuk...

    I'm taking Hischier and Hamilton over Tkachuk 10/10 and L. Hughes is 1 more year away... near 50 points on a bad NJD team without a bunch of their players as a rookie is impressive IMO...

    That puts Brady at 4rth and 5th best next year when l. Hughes makes his leap and Nemec does the same
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    May 12 at 10:42 a.m.
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    I generally agree with your take on the Brady to NJ trade but he is not better than Hischier a PPG selke contender who's penalty differential is nearly -100 over the last 2 years not to mention Hamilton who is usually around 5th in Norris votes over the last 5 years
    May 12 at 10:54 a.m.
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    If we trade Brady we aren’t competing anytime soon. Marino does nothing for us .

    Not a single piece hurts the devils to move here


    To be fair, you aren’t competing now with him.

    That said, I see no reason to trade a young player with a long term contract unless you are afraid he will become a malcontent in Ottawa
    May 12 at 10:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Well Jack's the best player... No need to argument there...

    I guess it then comes down to Hischier vs Tkachuk

    L. Hughes vs Tkachuk

    Hamilton vs Tkachuk...

    I'm taking Hischier and Hamilton over Tkachuk 10/10 and L. Hughes is 1 more year away... near 50 points on a bad NJD team without a bunch of their players as a rookie is impressive IMO...

    That puts Brady at 4rth and 5th best next year when l. Hughes makes his leap and Nemec does the same


    Wrong . Hamilton and Hischier aren’t better than Brady. That’s where you’re wrong.
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    May 12 at 11:03 a.m.
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    Hypothetically what is a realistic offer you would accept, from any team
    May 12 at 11:07 a.m.
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    Wrong . Hamilton and Hischier aren’t better than Brady. That’s where you’re wrong.


    It’s not about being better:

    Hischier’s game is so different than tkachucks. So I don’t really compare the two

    Tkachuk brings so much value in areas to teams that are looking to compete. Like so much.

    Hamilton is less value to a team like Ottawa because he’s an again player and that has been hurt. If Ottawa trades tkachuk they will suck even worse. And Hamilton is kind of “no value” then because they will be looking for young prospects/picks and by the time they are good Hamilton will be past his prime years
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    May 12 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: Letsgosharks
    It’s not about being better:

    Hischier’s game is so different than tkachucks. So I don’t really compare the two

    Tkachuk brings so much value in areas to teams that are looking to compete. Like so much.

    Hamilton is less value to a team like Ottawa because he’s an again player and that has been hurt. If Ottawa trades tkachuk they will suck even worse. And Hamilton is kind of “no value” then because they will be looking for young prospects/picks and by the time they are good Hamilton will be past his prime years


    That’s the thing with Tkachuk. He brings what most teams are lacking which makes him rare and more valuable.

    He’s not the typical 75-85pt player you could usually get

    Yeah exactly Sens need a young stud piece back in a Tkachuk trade
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    May 12 at 11:10 a.m.
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    Quoting: Letsgosharks
    Hypothetically what is a realistic offer you would accept, from any team


    Marchenko + 4th overall
    Maccelli + 6th overall
    Reinbacher + 5th (need an overpay from a division rival)
    Nemec straight up.
    Guenther + a less valuable piece
    Jack Quinn + 1st
    May 12 at 11:15 a.m.
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    Quoting: csick
    Marchenko + 4th overall
    Maccelli + 6th overall
    Reinbacher + 5th (need an overpay from a division rival)
    Nemec straight up.
    Guenther + a less valuable piece
    Jack Quinn + 1st


    Yeah that’s probably what it would take. Especially if it becomes a bidding war.
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    May 12 at 11:31 a.m.
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    Youre telling me the bust Holtz + Marino (good but he’s a 2nd pair) and 10th overall isn’t enough for a 35 goal scorer who give you 250 hits, protects your stars, and is nearly a ppg player???
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    May 12 at 11:33 a.m.
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    Wrong . Hamilton and Hischier aren’t better than Brady. That’s where you’re wrong.


    Hamilton is a near PPG RHD... There's not a lot of guys that can do that...

    Hischier is a Selke caliber PPG player who is also the captain of a team that made the playoffs...

    Both are better than Brady...
    May 12 at 11:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
    Youre telling me the bust Holtz + Marino (good but he’s a 2nd pair) and 10th overall isn’t enough for a 35 goal scorer who give you 250 hits, protects your stars, and is nearly a ppg player???


    No
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    May 12 at 12:03 p.m.
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    Nico is better
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    May 12 at 12:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Well Jack's the best player... No need to argument there...

    I guess it then comes down to Hischier vs Tkachuk

    L. Hughes vs Tkachuk

    Hamilton vs Tkachuk...

    I'm taking Hischier and Hamilton over Tkachuk 10/10 and L. Hughes is 1 more year away... near 50 points on a bad NJD team without a bunch of their players as a rookie is impressive IMO...

    That puts Brady at 4rth and 5th best next year when l. Hughes makes his leap and Nemec does the same


    You could also make an argument for Bratt. He and Brady are pretty close
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    May 12 at 12:14 p.m.
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    You could also make an argument for Bratt. He and Brady are pretty close


    Agreed.. But for the sake of argument...

    Brady is closer to 5 or 6 than 2
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    May 12 at 12:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
    Youre telling me the bust Holtz + Marino (good but he’s a 2nd pair) and 10th overall isn’t enough for a 35 goal scorer who give you 250 hits, protects your stars, and is nearly a ppg player???


    A top 10 pick, a top 4 RHD, and a good young winger for a good but not elite 1st line winger isn’t that far off, despite Ottawa fans acting like Brady is just as good and valuable as his brother. A piece that’s a bit better than Holtz may be needed but it’s not as bad as most Ottawa fans make it seem
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    May 12 at 12:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: mv21227
    A top 10 pick, a top 4 RHD, and a good young winger for a good but not elite 1st line winger isn’t that far off, despite Ottawa fans acting like Brady is just as good and valuable as his brother. A piece that’s a bit better than Holtz may be needed but it’s not as bad as most Ottawa fans make it seem


    First 6 seasons:

    Brady has more goals
    Matthew has the edge with 34 more pts

    Playing on better teams . It isn’t far off
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    May 12 at 12:19 p.m.
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    Hischier > Brady
    Hamilton is arguably better than Brady
    Bratt is arguably better than Brady
    Nemec and L Hughes could very easily be better than Brady in 2 years

    Meier is closer to being better than Brady than Brady is to being the second best player on NJ
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    May 12 at 12:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: mv21227
    A top 10 pick, a top 4 RHD, and a good young winger for a good but not elite 1st line winger isn’t that far off, despite Ottawa fans acting like Brady is just as good and valuable as his brother. A piece that’s a bit better than Holtz may be needed but it’s not as bad as most Ottawa fans make it seem


    Marino is a bottom 4D, he can never play top pair.

    Holtz isn’t a good young player. He’s a struggling young player

    10th overall in this draft isn’t that good
    May 12 at 12:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: mv21227
    Hischier > Brady
    Hamilton is arguably better than Brady
    Bratt is arguably better than Brady
    Nemec and L Hughes could very easily be better than Brady in 2 years

    Meier is closer to being better than Brady than Brady is to being the second best player on NJ


    Everyone just wants Brady for scraps . Good luck. He’s Brady Tkachuk high end top liner . Will be high elite level next year .
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    May 12 at 12:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: mv21227
    A top 10 pick, a top 4 RHD, and a good young winger for a good but not elite 1st line winger isn’t that far off, despite Ottawa fans acting like Brady is just as good and valuable as his brother. A piece that’s a bit better than Holtz may be needed but it’s not as bad as most Ottawa fans make it seem


    10th+Mercer+Marino would be an absolutely MASSIVE haul that’s relatively unheard of in the modern era.

    Just look at what was talked about as the rumoured package for Pettersson

    Necas+KK+1st (I may be missing some stuff someone will have to remind me).

    Star returns always end up being underwhelming for the seller
    May 12 at 12:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: csick
    First 6 seasons:

    Brady has more goals
    Matthew has the edge with 34 more pts

    Playing on better teams . It isn’t far off


    Matthew Tkachuk was coming off a 40 goal 105 point season with elite defensive metrics.

    Brady Tkachuk is coming off a 35 goal 75 point season with poor defensive metrics.
     
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