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Armchair-GM
Feb. 26 at 5:16 p.m.
Thread:
Buch trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glaive</b></div><div>Roy can play defense, Faulk cant</div></div>
I would disagree with that. Faulk is a pretty good defender. Not amazing by any means but he's definitely solid. It's the fact that he has to play with Krug every night that hurts his defensive numbers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 26 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread:
Buch trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Red Wings would not be interested in Faulk.</div></div>
fair, I feel like he's very similar in style to Roy and Detroit fans seem to want him so I liked the fit of Faulk to Detroit.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 12 at 8:51 p.m.
Thread:
Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>Voronkov is also an ideal player the Jackets need, so I can't see us trading him.
Probably even more unlikely, but Columbus needs a middle-6 two-way vet winger to play with the kids IMO. Gaudreau, Marchenko, Johnson, and Chinakhov are all top-6 wingers, at least by style. There's one specific younger top-6 RW with term that could use a change of scenery. He's not playing right now, and there's no way we move him before he comes out of the player assistance program, but would a Laine-Saad swap make sense?
STL would need to add, not sure how much (a 2nd?), and I'm not sure he's a fit, but that's more the move I'd be looking at in a STL-CBJ trade.</div></div>
I would be slightly interested in Laine but at the end of the day I just don't think he's a good fit for the Blues style of play. The Blues want their wingers to be physical and in on the forecheck and that's never been Laine's style. On top of that, we have Snuggerud coming who will be our sniper. Lastly, I don't think we could afford the 4 million increase in cap especially if we try to sign Buch to a long term deal. Maybe if Columbus retained the Blues would be interested but there's no real reason for Columbus to retain on Laine just to make a deal happen.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 4 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
What couldve been
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>This is the pain of trying to remain competitive long-term.
1. Walman, Dunn, Fabbri - Jake Walman could barely crack the lineup for us. At the time of the trade we had desperately needed a LD that could play with Parayko post Jbo (Which we still do). Walman could not do that at that time. Dunn was not trusted by the coaching staff hardly at all. He was stuck on the 3rd pair because he was unreliable in the defensive zone (which is comical because now 4 of our defenseman fit that mold). There wasn't really much they could do in that front to avoid Seattle taking him in the Expansion draft. Fabbri was traded as a favor to the player. He needed an opportunity to play and we needed to continue winning.
The biggest blunder armstrong had was Pietrangelo and always will be Pietrangelo. You could even say it started when they traded for Faulk. Just the sequence of moves doesn't make alot of sense to go from Pietrangelo to Faulk and Krug and expect good results.</div></div>
Yeah I agree I think everything started when contract negotiations fell through with Pietrangelo. That led to the Faulk trade and all of these other poor defensive moves happening. Looking back, I was a huge fan of all 3 of Walman, Dunn, and Fabbri. To me, Walman has always been the same player, it wouldn't have mattered if he was 22 or 27 he was pretty much ready for an NHL role but then got passed over for Dunn, who had a higher ceiling. They are different dmen though and I remember for a few games that they played together, Walman and Parayko looked great. The Blues expect perfection from their young defenders but have no accountability for their veteran defenders. That should really be flipped, you should put your young defenders with a veteran defender expecting the young guy to make mistakes and the vet to cover for him, the Blues want the opposite.
With Dunn, that was just a blunder. The blues hated his style of holding the blue line defensively. It worked 95% of the time, but the 5% of the time it didn't work, it led to a breakaway. The Blues couldn't handle this and yet on Seattle Dunn does the same thing and is still excellent at doing it. The only difference is Seattle encourages him to do it and they have Larsson there for the 5% of times that Dunn gets burned.
You're probably right about Fabbri, but I'll never understand why they didn't get more for him. At the end of the day it's a business, if Army couldn't get more for Fabbri, he should've tried harder to make it work in St. Louis. A lot of times Army is just being nice to the player which hurts the team.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 4 at 2:09 p.m.
Thread:
What couldve been
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>I know many hate the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" posts but honestly there's a lot to be said about Armstrong just making some bad decisions that have really hampered the Blues when the right move to make was staring him in the face.</div></div>
Agreed, it's sad that really all he had to do was nothing and this team would've been great. Instead he panicked and forced moves that just didn't make sense.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 6:09 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Before the season for Buch, maybe, but with the down year he's having, that's WAY too much, even with the retention. Drop Drury or Morrow, and probably lower the 2nd to a 3rd.</div></div>
He's not really having a down year. Just under a point per game due to him having an injury early on that slowed him down. He has an extra year on his deal too so he isn't just a rental and the canes can afford to sign him to an extension. Dropping Drury or Morrow would defeat the point of the trade. Those guys aren't untouchables to the canes and Buch provides a massive upgrade for the team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 4:19 p.m.
Thread:
Buchhhhhh
I think this is a pretty good deal for both sides. Buch would be an amazing fit with the canes.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 3:45 p.m.
Thread:
The Value of Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mskiko</b></div><div>I'd love Buch for the canes. What would a fair comp look like? 1st+Flyers 2nd+Morrow+Drury?</div></div>
That would be about right. I was very surprised that the canes haven't been linked to Buch. Maybe they will be soon we'll see he would be a great fit there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 29 at 9:25 p.m.
Thread:
A mix of buying and selling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>You answered the issue. He’s played 13 games. He’s been solid yes, he hasn’t really done anything well except not do anything too bad.</div></div>
That's better than most Blues dmen though. On the Blues he is an upgrade defensively to Krug, Leddy, and arguably Faulk in the top 4. Not saying on some contending team he'd be a top 4 defender but on the Blues he deserves to be playing over the guys listed above. Just because he's only played 13 games doesn't mean you can't trust him. His play style won't change and he is a sound defensive hockey player that can pair with any defensive partner. The Blues need a guy like that.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 29 at 8:17 p.m.
Thread:
A mix of buying and selling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>Kessel is not ready for a permanent top 4 role.</div></div>
Well in this scenario the Blues would rotate their bottom 4 more evenly so it wouldn't necessarily be a full top 4 role for him. I also don't see any problem with him in a full top 4 role he's played 13 games and has been a very good defensive dman. Sure his offense needs work but that's not my biggest worry especially with this defense where we would have Chychrun, Perunovich, and Barron.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 19 at 5:15 p.m.
Thread:
Start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>I think they likely took the quantity over quality because nobody is willing to give up their top prospects. I agree with your breakdown of a trade comparable though (Kuzmenko would have to be involved or moved elsewhere without any cap coming back). You need to factor in that Meier was 26 at the time of the trade turning 27 in October plus 50% retention (retention could be offset by the remaining year on Buch though) and Buch is 28 turning 29 in April.
Canucks would prefer the package you suggested over giving up Lekkerimaki though it might be too rich of package for them still. It would potentially be dependent on what type of return they can get for Kuzmenko in a separate deal. If they can actually get something of value there then this is a little more palpable.</div></div>
I think to me San Jose took the quantity over quality because of how thin their prospect pool was. The Blues have a lot of prospects and would probably prefer to go with a high end prospect over a bunch of middle end prospects. I agree that Meier being 2 years younger boosts his value but then again Buch has the extra year on his deal and will likely come with a cheaper extension because of his age. As for Kuzmenko, I feel like he could get around a 2nd to maybe a team like Arizona that has a ton of picks and could take a chance on him. To the Blues he would be more of a cap dump but even in the quantity over quality trade you could probably put him in over the 2nd round pick and the Blues could move him from there or just keep him and give him a chance.
All good thoughts though I think at the end of the day it makes a lot of sense for Vancouver to be interested in Buch and it makes a lot of sense for St. Louis to be interested in what Vancouver has to offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 19 at 4:45 p.m.
Thread:
Start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mediumyeet</b></div><div>Blues won't get a top prospect for Buch. It is very rare that a team trades their top prospect. You referenced the Meier trade but even that didn't have any of NJD top prospects involved. If you are looking at Vancouver the best prospect you will get will be from that second tier after Lekkerimaki and Willander which is Brustewicz, D-Petey, Raty, Podkolzin.
At best you are probably looking at something like 2024 1st + Kuzmenko + Brustewicz + a conditional pick.
If Buch is Van's primary target they might be willing to do something like 2024 1st + 2025 2nd(becomes a first if Van makes the conference final) + Kuzmenko + Brustewicz FOR Buchnevich + Kapanen(50% retention).
I'm not sure Van would be willing to give all of that up but I think it is in the ballpark IF they are locked in on getting Buch.</div></div>
Fair but in the Meier deal San Jose took quantity over quality. They got a TON in return for him. Nothing that would scream first liner but still a lot of important pieces for a team. I think if I was looking at a one for one comparison of the trades it would be something like:
To Vancouver:
Buch = Meier
Kap 50% retained = all the AHL players that got moved from San Jose to New Jersey
To St. Louis:
Podkolzin = Zetterlund
Woo = Okhotiuk
Brzustewicz = Mukhamadullin
2024 1st
2025 2nd
Again, that's a TON. I feel like they would almost rather lose Lekkermaki than all that but maybe not. I would take the above offer as the Blues as well if they want to go the quantity over quality approach.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 17 at 4:45 p.m.
Thread:
Lines of like to see
Practice lines today were:
Buch-Thomas-Neighbours
Hayes-Schenn-Kyrou
Saad-Walker-Sunny
Torpo-Alexandrov-Blais
Gaudette will play on the 3rd line apparently so likely one of sunny or walker drops down and Blais is scratched
Defense is how you have it.
I'd like to see Gaudette higher in the lineup honestly maybe put him and Kyrou together.
I'm also just waiting for the day that Leddy is taken off the top pair.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Jan. 17 at 4:39 p.m.
Thread:
January 2024 Mock Draft (Top 15)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahRighttt</b></div><div>I do agree on the point that he will fall. Time is the great equalizer. I certainly do not have a crystal ball that tells the future but I believe he has enough offensive talent to make a few teams regret their choices.</div></div>
oh for sure. If he hits his ceiling he'll go top 3 in redrafts. I really like the idea of him going to Arizona. They have time to be patient with him and a young up and coming team filled with playmakers and big forwards that could cover his defensive lapses.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Jan. 17 at 11:24 a.m.
Thread:
January 2024 Mock Draft (Top 15)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahRighttt</b></div><div>In a few years I think you will be eating your words about Eiserman. In last years under 18s, he showed he had more than just his shot, which is wicked. That was when he was only 16, he has a lot of growing & improving in front of him.</div></div>
I thought highly of him last year. It's this year that concerns me. Him also not make the U20s team is very concerning. I have no doubt he could and should be a 40 goal scorer in the NHL but it will just take the right team to develop him and some defensively responsible linemates. For that reason I think he falls on draft day. He falls in my rankings because at the moment I view him as a one dimensional player. But again this is really early in the draft process and a lot can change by draft day. To me I would compare him to like a Wahlstrom or Vrana type player right now. I think he has a higher ceiling then those 2 but that could be his floor.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 16 at 8:47 p.m.
Thread:
Blues fans thoughts on the season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks123</b></div><div>Can Saad play 2C?</div></div>
unfortunately I don't think so. Hayes could be an option from the Blues though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 12 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread:
Quick Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>Luostarinen got extended a while back. Was like a 7 years 3mil.</div></div>
Didn't know that thanks. What's wrong with him this year it seems his production has just fallen off so much?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 11 at 6:37 p.m.
Thread:
New Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dk325</b></div><div>Jackets get older for their rebuild...</div></div>
Having vets is important for a rebuild. Makes sure prospects don't get rushed into the NHL and gives some leadership to the team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 27, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks
Just no. The blues aren't trading buch for kuzmenko. Kuzmenko doesn't play the blues style of hockey. The rest of the offer is horrible for the blues.
Buch and Kuzmenko are not in the same category of player.
If the Blues trade Buch it will be a sign they are rebuilding so they will want futures and prospects not an NHL top 6 forward. If Buch goes to Vancouver the Blues would be interested in Lekkermaki or Willander as the focal point of the deal (both are unlikely to be dealt so Buch is unlikely to go to Vancouver)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 8, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
Thread:
Bortz gone is army planning something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StDetroitBlueWings</b></div><div>That was kind of my thoughts. Perunovich and Tucker seem to both be able to play on the right side as well so just either Scandella or Leddy heading out the door will help with maybe getting someone like Broberg.
After seeing the trade, I wouldn't have even minded if we attached a pick and instead of a 7th, we got Wahlstrom somehow</div></div>
Agreed I would've loved to get Wahlstrom and I think they would trade him for the right offer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 5, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
Thread:
broby
Blues would accept. I think that's a good trade for both teams too Vrana could dominate with McDavid on the powerplay.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.
Thread:
Blues fans thoughts on Broberg
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Would Blues trade Blais for Broberg?</div></div>
I'm not sure I think the Blues really like Blais and I personally really like him but that would probably be fair enough. Similar to the Kostin deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
Thread:
Blues fans thoughts on Broberg
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Zero point the sharks make that deal and Duclair has been good mentor for us and I wouldn’t mind seeing us resign him. If we do trade him it won’t be for a more expensive rental who is providing less production.</div></div>
Vrana makes less but your point is fair. It was just a thought.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread:
What Does Broberg Cost
I feel like realistically he shouldn't cost a lot. Edmonton fans won't want to move on from him (and they shouldn't) but their GM isn't good and I could see him trading him for a physical veteran defender. I think in the package above they would rather have Bortz over Scandella for cap reasons and Bortz has Stanely Cup experience.
Broberg should definitely be a target for the Blues though I would like to see him play with Parayko and see if he can stick on the top pair.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Dec. 1, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
Thread:
Next Years Team
That's a trade the Blues likely accept. Nice trade
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