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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2018 at 12:05 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2018 at 9:37 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>If I'm Melnyk trading Ryan would be a priority. Obviously I would want to keep my top 5 pick - that would be a priority as well so I would try every option possible to avoid trading that pick, but at the same time I would expect GM's to demand that pick.... It's really the only really good asset Melnyk has.... Now there is one other solution and that's to package Karlsson up with Ryan but the problem with that is how many teams have the cap space to take both players while sending very little salary back to Ottawa? not only that but at the same time have confidence that such a trade would improve their team enough to the point that it would be worth it?? not many.... Most bubble teams and legitimate contenders are already up against the cap - or at the very least couldn't afford to take on 15 million...

So yea, Melnyk's options are very limited and finding a taker for Ryan at full price will be very difficult and I don't see a team just taking Ryan for anything less than that top 5 pick at the very least. So if cutting salary is Melnyk's priority then trading Karlsson is really one of his only options and make no mistake Karlsson on his own is worth a fantastic return... Melnyk may want to trade Karlsson first - bring back some assets then package a couple of those assets up with Ryan to create incentive for a team to take him... That may just be Melnyk's best bet...

Imagine a 3-way deal like this.... This would certainly be Melnyk's best bet:

To Ottawa: Puljujärvi, Yamamoto, Forsling, 2018 first round pick (NAS)
To Edmonton: Karlsson, Duclair
To Chicago: Ryan, 2018 first round pick (EDT) #7 overall

IMO, that's not a bad trade at all - I actually love it...

My point is a 3-way deal for Melnyk may be his best bet to shed salary..</div></div>

Brilliant. Empathetic. Thinking of three teams' needs and wants. Yeah, you're right that Melnyk would rather trade a defenseman pushing for Mr. Futility and likely to walk in a year than a top ten draft pick. If the Sens are rebuilding, and cutting salary, they want to add high draft picks, rather than give them up. Melnyk gripes publicly about writing checks to subsidize a bad hockey team, but he keeps writing them, and actions speak louder than words.

Ottawa has a lot of good, young, tradeable wingers, too. While plenty of teams might trade enough for Karlsson to get Ryan off the books, throwing in Hoffman, Stone, Pageau, or whoever... would all be worth more to teams trying to win right away, and would, surprisingly, even though their contracts are reasonable, also help the Sens shed salary heading into another year or three when they maybe don't expect to make the playoffs. I think they want to get back picks and prospects and give up big contracts. Trading Karlsson and Ryan together remains their best first step.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 17, 2018 at 7:09 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>Even at this point:

Seabrook&gt;Phaneuf
Seabrook&gt;Methot

Seabrook gets no love anymore.

The guy may be overpaid but he's not terrible, now.

Lets put Seabrook into perspective - I'm sure if I told a hockey fan that Seabrook has put up nearly as many points as RNH over the last 3 seasons no one would believe me. Well it's true, Seabrook has put up <em>nearly</em> as many points as RNH..

Seabrook - 109 points, 230 gp

RNH - 113 points, 189 gp

RNH is the younger player and a forward so one would think he would have scored significantly more points than Seabrook even playing 41 less games (18%) but that's just not the case.

My point is Seabrook has been getting raw deal recently, now he's not even mentioned as one of the best current players from the 2003 draft - it's a travesty - it's criminal.

It's amazing how much a contract can minimize what a player does on ice and in some situations get them degraded.

The assumption always is bad contract = worse player.

It appears the only reason why RNH is worth 6 per is because he's 25 and Seabrook isn't because he's 33.

I mean there should be no reason why a 33-year-old defenseman is even close in scoring with a 25-year-old "star player" and former first overall pick. Yet here is the evidence and it's the 33-year-old defenseman that routinely gets thrown under the bus.

So yea, that's what I think about the way Seabrook is treated, lol.</div></div>

fair point, but to take data from the past 3 years to evaluate seabrook's current ability isnt accurate. he has clearly been trending down the past few years, going from 0.6 P/GP to 0.49 P/GP to 0.30 P/GP (I realize its somewhat unfair to judge based only on offensive stats and point totals, but its just an indicator of his downward trend).


but i agree with you:
now looking at methot's and phaneuf's stats, i completely agree seabrook is better, but tbh when i made this team i just slotted in the LHD on the left side and RHD on the right side

i dont think seabrook is complete trash, but he certainly isnt what he used to be
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