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TheJoeMan

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Forum: Armchair-GMAug 10 at 9:35
Thread: Tarasenko
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 11 at 12:33
Thread: Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>1- At the very least, Larsson should be considered 1.2M they'd have to pay and/or account for on the cap. As such, I noted that adding Larsson subtracts from the offer, which is obviously true. He's wretched and all the Ducks fans here are saying he's pure trash. Larsson would be of no good use whatsoever, and would have been of no good use last season.

2- Steel is nearly 24 now, he is no longer a prospect. He's just a average-to-subpar 3C who is small and bordering on slow. And has one ELC year left, not a great boon or anything.

3- Scandella has strength, skates well and stands up the line. He moves the puck reasonably safely and understands the system already. Cap hit or not, he's obviously useful and it's not hard to see.

4- The cap flexibility is a good thing, but would have been far more useful a few weeks ago. It does absolutely nothing to help us actually win games now (or, quite possibly, in the future). This is not how the team operates. If there was another squad strengthening move to run behind it, sure. As is, I'd definitely find a better solution. This is not the only way to gain some cap flexibility.</div></div>

It's extremely funny to me that you say Larsson is wretched and Scandella is useful when <a href="https://imgur.com/a/ARVGnQw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">their profiles are extremely similar</a>. Is it ideal to take Larsson back? It's not, but we would be shedding ten million in salary by getting rid of the rest of the Scandella deal, so taking Larsson back for a year and paying him 1.3M is, in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal for a team that's publicly committed to spending to the cap. And then you can just not qualify him next year.

I mean I said in my original comment it only makes sense if the Blues can use the cap space to find a different LHD. I'm not under any illusions that Steel is going to be a top six player on the Blues but he still has upside and he's cheap and I don't know how you can claim Scandella, a below average player making 3.25, is useful and then claim an NHL bottom six player making basically league minimum is not. Like, what do you think Marco Scandella is worth? Because it's not much more than that. I don't see a whole lot of mock rosters of people actively wanting Scandella.

He's useful in-so-far that he's an NHL body with experience in the Blues system, I guess. I feel like the bare minimum of an NHL defenseman is "skates, is strong, and stands up the line". Distinguishing that as some kind of pro is I guess technically true but like it's hardly worth mentioning. Scandella's skill is his puck movement and ability to break out rush chances, but he does this at the expense of solid work in his own end and depending on your mileage on Faulk three other defensemen on this team already fit that description and do it better than him. Perunovich could make a fourth.

Obviously I'm not arguing against the Blues seeking out a better deal but like I just feel like expecting there to be a line around the block willing to pony up for Marco Scandella and the ten million dollars he's still owed with the limited skillset he offers is wishful thinking.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 11 at 4:37
Thread: Scandella
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheEarthmaster</b></div><div>
The return of Larsson shouldn't be a consequence you're spending any time on in this deal. It's a depth defenseman that you can bury all but 75k in the minors with, and that's a guy we would have loved to have last year with all the injuries we had on defense.

Steel is a solid prospect on an ELC...

and I'm not sure what version of Scandella is useful to this team, especially at that cap hit.

The cap flexibility alone is a big win. This is a good deal for the Blues.</div></div>


1- At the very least, Larsson should be considered 1.2M they'd have to pay and/or account for on the cap. As such, I noted that adding Larsson subtracts from the offer, which is obviously true. He's wretched and all the Ducks fans here are saying he's pure trash. Larsson would be of no good use whatsoever, and would have been of no good use last season.

2- Steel is nearly 24 now, he is no longer a prospect. He's just a average-to-subpar 3C who is small and bordering on slow. And has one ELC year left, not a great boon or anything.

3- Scandella has strength, skates well and stands up the line. He moves the puck reasonably safely and understands the system already. Cap hit or not, he's obviously useful and it's not hard to see.

4- The cap flexibility is a good thing, but would have been far more useful a few weeks ago. It does absolutely nothing to help us actually win games now (or, quite possibly, in the future). This is not how the team operates. If there was another squad strengthening move to run behind it, sure. As is, I'd definitely find a better solution. This is not the only way to gain some cap flexibility.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 9 at 2:13
" I understand there's value in keeping guys like Lindholm but teams that full on tear down rather than do a half ass rebuild always come out better."

Ask Buffalo about that...From 2013-2018, the Sabres drafted Dahlin, Mittlestadt, Nylander, Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, all within the first 8 picks of the draft. Add to that Cozens, Quinn and Power. You can throw the Coyotes into a similar boat, but they've also managed to f*ck themselves a bunch of other times. The Devils have been rebuilding since 2012, with 1 playoff appearance, and a whole lot of early 1st round picks to show for it (They'll be better this year though!).

Are there teams that come out better? Absolutely. But people seem to forget that there's very little guarantee that ripping everything apart will somehow magically guarantee that you're back to being a contender in a few years.

I don't think your opinion is at all unpopular...Should they have made a bigger push to move Manson/Rakell? Yeah, of course...but if the return wasn't there, there's not a ton of point in just moving them to move them, right? Honestly, someone at the deadline probably gives up a Foligno haul for Rakell if he's anywhere close to be decent. Put him with Zegras and Comtois and rak (see what I did there?) him up some points. Manson? I have a hard time believing that Winnipeg had their 1st on the table. Looking at the Risto return in Buffalo-If there was anything close to that, then it was a huge bogey, but yeah, I don't see it. Maybe something this deadline, maybe not. If it's not there though, don't force it! Manson will eat the tough minutes that ease Drysdale into the lineup, since Anaheim kind of put themselves into a situation where they either have to play him or send him back to the OHL (Which wouldn't make a ton of sense).

I don't know...if the deals were there then the team absolutely should have thought long and hard about them, I just don't really think they were anywhere close. With Eakins' $hit system sucking the life out of the offence, and making the team look like they're playing zone D in their own end, everybody's trade value was blown apart after last year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 4 at 11:28
Thread: Carter
Forum: Armchair-GMJun 3 at 6:38
Thread: Carter
Forum: Armchair-GMJan 13 at 5:44
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 28, 2020 at 1:17
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 19, 2020 at 2:37
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb 13, 2020 at 6:45
Thread: Grant
Forum: Armchair-GMNov 6, 2019 at 4:48
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheJoeMan</b></div><div>I think Steel is best utilized at center though I get the impulse to give him a better opportunity being on the top line. I think Shore has no place on this team. Not talented enough to be a top-6 guy and not fast and gritty enough to be a bottom-6 guy. Comtois brings the most effort and generates the most chances of our young guys so I wouldn't take him out of the lineup. He can swap with Jones though. I'm starting to worry that kid just doesn't have the hands for the bigs.</div></div>

I am with you %100. I just saw what an impact that line had against Chicago on Sunday night and I would love to see if for a full game and go from there. I'm indifferent with Shore. I thought he played well in the first 2 games but after that its been kind of shakey. Fair enough, I love Comtois but didn't think he would be utilized great on the 4th line. I would love to see this team to start burying some of their chances though.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>I don’t mind moving Steel to the wing for a couple games. Bring up Lundestrom to for the all Swede line. And Comtois over Terry. Terry needs to sit. He won’t shoot the puck. Need to find a way to get thru to him. Sit him a game and see if he figure sit out. Had the puck in the slot twice last night and didn’t shoot either time.</div></div>

You make a good point on bringing Lundestrom up. Terry reminds me of Getzlaf and not wanting to shoot. I still don't think I would sit Terry though. Maybe sit Jones instead of Terry and bring Comtois back in the lineup.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct 31, 2019 at 12:31