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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.
Thread: I Think Parayko Is Available
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>OMG I so wish you understood how stunningly embarrassing this sentence is.

Bro... on-ice means the stays accrued while they are on the ice. With five other teammates. These are NOT individual stats. I cannot possibly dumb this down any more.

Get it or don't, we're done here. I feel like I'm Mike Tyson battering a baby squirrel. Feels icky.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>badoob</b></div><div>RAPM charts account for the players impact. Their xG produced offensively and defensively, etc etc. You’re choosing to toss it aside because “muhhh, the player has teammates!!11!!” Yeah, the model knows that.

Parayko is still average, and get off your high horse. I know how the charts work, you’re choosing to ignore them because they don’t fit your narrative.

If you don’t like RAPM charts, plenty of other public models don’t favour Parayko either. But let me guess, he played good in 2021 on a blue moon tuesday game?</div></div>

They use on-ice stats for raw data but the whole point of RAPM is to use that data and control for teammates (and a ton of other factors) to isolate an individual players impact

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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 26, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
Thread: Help
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>Sheesh, talk about ironic</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Uh huh, and let's not pretend that Faber's defense isn't so many magnitudes better than Byram's here either. Byram is an offensive defenseman whose is barely an average defender. While Faber is a defensive shutdown defenseman whose is solid offensively.

Comparing the two stylistically is moronic and an apples to oranges affair. Especially when Faber is closer to a Jonas Brodin, Adam Pelech, Jacob Slavin, or Devon Toews type of defender. That doesn't diminish his value, it's just a different TYPE of value. This has nothing to do with skillset and absolutely everything to do with PLAYER VALUE.

Furthermore, Byram is hardly a #1 on most teams, he's maybe a #2 but primarily a #3. Same as faber.

Their VALUE is the same, regardless of who does what, or plays a certain way.

But you want to mouth off about being homer'ish. Pot meet kettle.</div></div>

Gotta agree with you guys on this one. Currently Byram and Faber are roughly equal while JEE &gt;&gt; Johansen + Ritchie + 1st
Forum: NHLNov. 8, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
Thread: 2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>People ask why Addision was moved well he was not trusted by his coaches, Evason really seemed to hate him for being mostly one dimensional, and he had an incident with Spurgeon but I think that ones overblown

Its for the best for both sides

Spurgeon and Faber can QB 1 and 2 and Addision can go have fun in SJS QB unit 1 and just chill


But yea there were some saying DeAngelo. Man if Wild do that they really stupid lul. As it makes 0 sense on all fronts you had a guy making half whose the same, had a coach who hates that type of player, and adding a guy with attitude issues who costs double what Addison did lul

Got a feeling if CAR is moving a player its Chatfield</div></div>

Addison wasnt trusted at all at 5v5 - he had the lowest EV TOI/GP among MIN defensemen last season and 2nd lowest this season (behind Daemon Hunt's first 4 career games). But just because they didnt trust him doesnt necessarily mean they wont trust any offensive D man - they just traded for Klingberg last season and played him 20 mins per game

DeAngelo could fill a similar role to Klingberg and, although he isnt good defensively overall, he is still better defensively than Klingberg and would be the best PPQB they have by far*. Maybe they dont like his off ice baggage but I dont see how its a stupid idea aside from that

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Fabers game isnt really suited to a PP role, hes more of a defensive guy. Plus he has basically no PP experience at the NHL level
Spurgeon is kinda underwhelming as a PP1 QB, hes better suited for PP2. Career 3.72 PPP/60 is pretty poor for a #1 PP option
DeAngelo has a career 5.41 PPP/60 which put him in the company of Hedman, Dahlin, Josi, Barrie, and other top PP D men
and for comparison sake Addison has a career 4.38 PPP/60