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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 30, 2020 at 7:34 a.m.
Thread: Chytil
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 30, 2020 at 7:23 a.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 17, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
Thread: Sorry Hank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Anaheim declines Lindholm is worth more, And fat chance of Lundqvist being bought out. Gorton will roll with Lundqvist and Shesterkin and trade Georgiev.</div></div>

If you think this you haven't been paying attention lately (not necessarily your fault, if you're not in the NY media market). EVERYONE worth their salt, and people who aren't, all say that Hank is done in NY, and whether he's bought out, traded, or retires is his call, but the Rangers are completely willing to buy him out. They absolutely LOVE AG, they think he's better right now than Cambot or Raanta were. They think he's a capable goaltender with the potential to be a good-very good starter, so if no one is going to pay them that price for him, they're full content to keep him and roll with the tandem of Igor/AG. Brooks and Carp have both been reporting it, and Libor Hajek, in an interview that I saw yesterday, said Hank basically said his goodbyes after the loss to Carolina in Toronto. Hajek also said Hank said he didn't know if he was being bought out or traded or if he'd sign somewhere else after being bought out, but he said it was his last match.

<a href="https://twitter.com/Baamboo22/status/1306374448602320896?s=19" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Baamboo22/status/1306374448602320896?s=19</a> (it's an English translation of the original Czech interview)

The expectation now is Hank is gone, Igor/AG are staying, unless someone really blows the Rangers away with an offer. Anyone saying otherwise either a) really wants AG b) isn't in tune with the Rangers or c) is wishful thinking and tied up in the sentimentality with Hank (which I can't blame them for but it seems like it's pretty much a done deal at this point, time to mentally prepare and get over that).
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 14, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 11, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 11, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. Brook is basically a throw in you are right but his ceiling is very good if he can put it together, that being said the Rangers are set on the right side so I don't see them wanting to take the chance on him. Instead I could see Harris being of interest the the Rangers and it doesn't mess with the Habs long term plans either. I think you're off a little on the value of Armia though, especially with the new rules limiting conditional picks to just being performance based. I don't think you can look at a players value as a rental anymore with a full year left on his contract. Armia at full value is worth between a late 1st and early 2nd in this years draft. I think you have to base his value at that even without an extension, but only when assessing a value as part of this type of deal cause your not really getting anything for Armia. Armia is just added here to add value from the Habs side, if the deal was just Armia for a pick then I think you value him as a rental and go Armia for a conditional 2022 3rd which upgrades to a 2nd if he plays 1 game for the Rangers in 2021-22. That makes up for not being able to add a conditional pick based on the player signing an extension. Just a loophole type of thing.

2. I get your view here

3. Yeah the 2nd makes more sense to add someone like Kulak, Mete or Yelonen instead as they are depth pieces and are worth about a 2nd or 3rd ish and would be more help to the rangers than the 2nd.</div></div>

The Armia comment was my fault; I forgot that CF moved the year forward, so I thought that the last year of his contract was 19-20, not 20-21. I still don't value him that highly as a piece coming back in a deal that includes Buch; he's basically just a slightly older and imo slightly worse replacement for Buch, so I'm not a huge fan of it, but you can ignore all of the Kevin Hayes stuff; I thought Armia needed a new contract now, not next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 11, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>honestly speaking, if you want to fill the 2 Center role you are going to have to give up one of Kreider, Kakko, Buchnevich or Panarin. Unless your plan is to trade 1st OVA! By my estimation Panarin, Kakko and 1st OVA are likely not being traded. So that leaves Kreider or Buchnevich the question then becomes who does your trade partner want. Likely 9 out of 10 teams are going to want Buchnevich as he is simply the better player. Most Montreal fans would consider a Kreider trade as sacrilegious after him injuring Price LOL. So your probably not getting an offer for Kreider to the Habs, so your going to have to suffer through a lot of Buchnevich proposals.</div></div>

The issue with it for me is not trading Buch or DeAngelo, of course you have to give to get. I'm a big Buch fan which hurts but I know that he's an appealing piece for a lot of teams.

It's that the return, to me, isn't good enough. Brook is a throw-in; the whole reason we can trade DeAngelo is because we have no use for a mediocre prospect with Trouba and Fox here to stay and with Nils Lundkvist on the way for the bottom pairing spot. For us, Brook would just be another D prospect eating minutes in Hartford; it just doesn't move the needle. Armia is a pending UFA whose signing rights are not really worth anything (a player who would get big money like Kevin Hayes' signing rights was only like a 4th or 5th round pick, a player like Armia whose UFA market would be much smaller would be worth much less). If you removed those two pieces, it wouldn't change the value of the deal to me at all.

Domi and a 2nd are cool, but I'm personally not a big Max Domi fan, I personally wouldn't think to target him because a) I'm not certain the Rangers would be looking for another very offensively minded player who struggles defensively; I would think that they would be trying to target a player that brings more to the table defensively, since that's an area they struggle and b) I'm not convinced of his value as a 2C (though this is of course arguable, I'm not saying this as a "you're wrong" type comment, just explaining my pov).

The 2nd is nice because we don't have one this year but if we're trading NHL talent in Buch/DeAngelo for Domi to plug a hole at 2C, I don't think a future asset is something that's so appealing to the Rangers that it acts as the sweetener it is meant to be; if the Rangers are making a trade like this, it's to trade from a position of strength (winger that we have many of and our 3rd pairing RHD that should be playing a higher role and that we can replace with a prospect already in our pipeline in the next couple of years) to address a position of weakness (2C) in the interest of significantly improving the team right now, and the 2nd doesn't really help us do that directly.

It's not a bad idea by any stretch, there have been rumours I've seen of NYR inquiring about Domi, this is all just my personal take. I'm sure he would cost more, but I would personally be more interested in acquiring Danault because while he may not have the offensive abilities that Domi has, he brings a lot to the table defensively and in the faceoff circle that I think would be useful to diversify the Rangers and I think is a more steady C vs Domi being, to me, more of a winger, and probably would have similar contract demands. Again, not trying to dump on the proposal, just giving my opinion.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 8, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>Why you don't think that NYR would be a great fit?
Kreider- Ziba- Laffy
Panarin- Strome- Kakko
Chytil- Domi- FAst
And with Fox emergions DeAngelo is spendable for a 2/3C quality fix</div></div>

We aren't really interested in another guy that maybe is a good solution but also quite possibly isn't. First, Chytil is going to get every opportunity at C, they're not trying to move him to the wing. Second, the whole problem right now is the Rangers don't have a legit confirmed 2C. They don't think Ryan Strome is a long-term answer at that spot and Chytil maybe will be a 2C but he isn't quite there yet. So trading for another guy that is like maybe a 2C but probably isn't and might be better on the wing just compounds the problem they already have. If they can't get a legit 2C, then they'll just roll with Strome at 2C on a bridge deal and see if Chytil can overtake him during the season. Third, the Rangers are not in a position to trade for Domi and pay him 6.5m to end up being a 3C. That's just bad asset management; you do that and you probably end up with a 3rd line making over 13m (with Kreider probably ending up on the 3rd line eventually with Lafreniere coming in). That would be a disaster.

Kulak is whatever, Poehling for us is borderline zero value because it will be hard for him to crack our lineup consistently, being really deep with wingers, the picks are cool and we'll take them. We can easily give up that package, Tony and Buch are expendable enough. I just think Domi would be a weird target for the Rangers; those kinds of half measures I think don't make a ton of sense for the Rangers. I don't perceive Domi as a 6x6.5m 2C player, which is why I wouldn't be interested, I don't think he's that good of a fit really. He had one super popoff year and kind of fell back to earth to the point we're not really convinced of him being a 2C. If they really think he's a plug and play 2C, then this is more or less fine I think, but I'm not convinced of that at this time. I think Danault makes a lot more sense as a target, a guy who can eat 2C minutes for a year while Chytil develops and then can be paid a little less for a little less term and slide down the lineup, plus being a more defensively-minded player which the Rangers could really use.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 1, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.