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Armchair-GM
Oct. 6, 2020 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread:
Would this work
for the Rangers, nah. Rielly is a cool player the Rangers would like but Fox is way too valuable to us to give up with a 1st for him. Fox has more team control and on average over the remained of Rielly's contract will probably cost less; he'll be on ELC this year, then get paid probably what like 8-9m if all goes well, Rielly gets 5m the next 2 years, then needs a big contract as he goes UFA. Doesn't make sense for NYR to bother with this.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 2, 2020 at 7:43 p.m.
Thread:
Mostly realistic approach but want feedback on the trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rino911</b></div><div>DeAngelo shouldn’t get 5 mil</div></div>
the word today is that the Rangers put their QO on him (which he's not going to take) and it would take 5+m to sign him without going to arbitration; something I don't think the Rangers want to do for the 3 year term they are negotiating with him. Expecting it to go to arb.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 30, 2020 at 7:34 a.m.
Thread:
Chytil
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FiveForFighting</b></div><div>Chytil played primarly on the wing last season</div></div>
I don't know where you came up with this information, if you have a source please show it to me. From watching 90%+ of the Rangers games this year, I am pretty confident that that's not the case. He played with Kreider and Buchnevich (who are both wingers) while Zibanejad was out. He got some run with Panarin and Fast (both wingers) early in the season and then ended up playing with the Diaper Line (Howden - Chytil - Kakko) for a long time, where Howden was on the wing. We know Howden was on the wing because David Quinn explicitly said they were moving Howden to the wing to simplify the game for him, since he was struggling as a center. Then they moved Howden down to the 4th line and put PDG on the LW there (PDG - Chytil - Kakko) looking to get a defensively responsible presence on that line. He did play some games on the wing, and was moved to the wing at some point in the series against Carolina, but he did not play "primarily" on the wing.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 30, 2020 at 7:28 a.m.
Thread:
What would a trade for these players look like
The Rangers aren't trading Alex Georgiev, with the recent news about Henrik Lundqvist. If they were to, I think it would have to be something like your 1st for Georgiev, 22OA, and some other stuff to bridge the value gap because Georgiev + 22OA is definitely not enough to get up that high. Don't think the Rangers are interested in a 2nd (they're trying to turn the corner, need higher value assets or more current assets than that) and Mittelstadt (NYR passed on Mittelstadt in that draft for Lias so I don't think they loved him to begin with). The other asset that might make sense for the Rangers is Jake McCabe+, but really they need a plug and play top 4 lefty, which I'm not sure McCabe is.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 30, 2020 at 7:23 a.m.
Thread:
theres gotta be something big coming
There really doesn't. The main motivation for buying out Hank is not the little bit of savings this year. Most of the savings this year will just go straight into Alex Georgiev's pocket, with his next contract. The motivation for buying out Hank is Alex Georgiev commanding the playing time that he has with his performance the past few years. If not for AG, Hank would be a Ranger this season, but his performance has been too good for NYR to ignore and they absolutely love him. They want to see more. If anything, the Hank buyout indicates that nothing is coming involving Georgiev.
On the bright side, this means we'll see a lot fewer Georgiev to the Leafs proposals where they say he's not good and offer a 2nd and prospect for him.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 24, 2020 at 8:18 p.m.
Thread:
Flames Rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I dont think Rangers would be interested in Gaudreau. Philly probably woudl</div></div>
Especially for this package. This package includes two of the Rangers' 4 centres from 2019-2020, Chytil and Howden. Strome is RFA. 2C is a top 2 need for the Rangers along with a top 4 LHD; trading away the prospect we hope to step into a 2C role and another young player that hopefully will improve instead of being this bad forever at C to get a LW when, with Lafreniere, the Rangers will have 3 top line caliber RWs already (Panarin, Lafreniere, and Kreider) just doesn't make sense.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 23, 2020 at 8:34 p.m.
Thread:
how is this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>warnken21</b></div><div>NHLRumorsDaily... he/she has been accurate for about almost everything</div></div>
NRD posted literally today that they hadn't heard anything about a Hank trade...
<a href="https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1308853203405021185" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1308853203405021185</a>
Someone asked "Is it there are teams interested in hank via trade" and that was NRD's response; Doesn't think there's anything there right now, maybe there's something they don't know, but it doesn't appear to be the case that Hank's name has come up in trade talks. Not sure where the "there's a team in on him" came from NRD :shrug:
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 22, 2020 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread:
Real talk - will Lias Andersson ever return to NYR
I think he'll come back if he feels confident that they truly believe in him again.
To me, it felt like he kind of lost confidence in himself and needed something to lean on. Between making the roster out of camp, to barely getting any minutes, to being sent down, to all of his struggles while in Hartford, it felt to me not that he was just mad they sent him down but more that he felt like he was doing the right things and no one else saw it, and that can be mentally draining. Then the bad habits he built as a result of trying to be able to talk to his friends and family more, now he's back in Sweden, hockey is fun again, he's back to doing the things that got him drafted (a bit too) high. If he gets the impression he's going to get a legit shot on Broadway and that the staff believes in him and the way he plays, then I think he'd be willing to come back, but if he feels like they're going to bury him again, give a player like Brett Howden, who has been really truly awful, and the Rangers finally seem to be somewhat understanding of that later in the season, giving him less time and moving him to the wing, the leg up on him for whatever reason, then I hope he stays in Sweden.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 17, 2020 at 1:54 p.m.
Thread:
Libor Hajek Spills the Beans About Lundqvist
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Henrik had an emotional goodbye and said he doesn't know what the future holds and it might be his last Rags game. Then different media teams warped that to mean he's getting bought out or trade or retiring.</div></div>
More accurately, different media have used this to confirm what sources have told them since the spring about how NYR feels about Georgiev and how NYR would rather buy out Hank than trade Georgiev for the prices teams are offering. They see Georgiev as a capable player who has good starting goaltender upside, whereas the league, apparently, like many on this site, just think he's a dime-a-dozen backup. Not implying which side is right, but NYR's view of him matters the most for what they're going to do with him.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 17, 2020 at 1:51 p.m.
Thread:
Does This Work
For NYR, there's no point in bringing in Dumba and trading Tony to do it; the whole reason Tony is available is because hypothetically NYR wouldn't want to pay him the 5+m annually to be a 3rd pairing guy, with Trouba and Fox (and his eventual extension). Taking on Dumba in exchange just recreates that problem. Sturm and JEE are intriguing pieces though.
For MIN, doesn't trading Dumba for Tony recreate your problem as well? Part of the problem is you can't protect Suter, Spurgeon, Brodin AND Dumba effectively, and bringing in Tony gives you another D you'd have to protect.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 17, 2020 at 8:43 a.m.
Thread:
Sorry Hank
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Anaheim declines Lindholm is worth more, And fat chance of Lundqvist being bought out. Gorton will roll with Lundqvist and Shesterkin and trade Georgiev.</div></div>
If you think this you haven't been paying attention lately (not necessarily your fault, if you're not in the NY media market). EVERYONE worth their salt, and people who aren't, all say that Hank is done in NY, and whether he's bought out, traded, or retires is his call, but the Rangers are completely willing to buy him out. They absolutely LOVE AG, they think he's better right now than Cambot or Raanta were. They think he's a capable goaltender with the potential to be a good-very good starter, so if no one is going to pay them that price for him, they're full content to keep him and roll with the tandem of Igor/AG. Brooks and Carp have both been reporting it, and Libor Hajek, in an interview that I saw yesterday, said Hank basically said his goodbyes after the loss to Carolina in Toronto. Hajek also said Hank said he didn't know if he was being bought out or traded or if he'd sign somewhere else after being bought out, but he said it was his last match.
<a href="https://twitter.com/Baamboo22/status/1306374448602320896?s=19" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Baamboo22/status/1306374448602320896?s=19</a> (it's an English translation of the original Czech interview)
The expectation now is Hank is gone, Igor/AG are staying, unless someone really blows the Rangers away with an offer. Anyone saying otherwise either a) really wants AG b) isn't in tune with the Rangers or c) is wishful thinking and tied up in the sentimentality with Hank (which I can't blame them for but it seems like it's pretty much a done deal at this point, time to mentally prepare and get over that).
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 15, 2020 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread:
Bobber goes Boom Boom
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ducks</b></div><div>Strome and Hajek suck. That first is late. You’d rather spare parts over a top prospect right defenseman?</div></div>
yeah as a Rangers fan I would probably rather do both of those deals than give up Nils right now. If the Ducks would do Strome + CAR 1st + Hajek I bet it would be done as soon as the Rangers can get a replacement for Strome, and **** they might not even wait that long. The DeAngelo + Krav + 2nd (2021 bc NYR doesn't have a 2nd this year, thank you for Adam Fox Carolina) is harder and maybe I'd do Nils instead but if we still have Nils Tony is completely expendable and we have the winger depth for Krav to be expendable.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
Thread:
does this Carolina trade work
Personally, I would rather have Aho than Malkin and I would rather have Dougie than Letang despite the 1 extra year on Letang's contract, so if I was Carolina I would say no especially now that you put Necas into it who looked really really good this year.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 14, 2020 at 2:56 p.m.
Thread:
deangelo to anaheim rumors
the actual deal is made up and the Ducks would be silly to do this if you ask me, the source of the rumour I believe would be <a href="https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1305529770315309061" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/NHLRumorsDaily/status/1305529770315309061</a> NRD is right sometimes and wrong others like any rumour account but for those asking where it came from that's my guess (I DID NOT POST THIS AGM THREAD).
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
One trade at a time for a total fix
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>I just went with the rumors out there and played it for both side as I do see a good fit for both IMO.
I think Domi playing as 2C would be even better then Strome who doesn't have a defensive side either... but that'S just me!
Brook is not a trow in as he could turn to be similare than DeAngelo... in a year or two where NYR would benefit on is ELC contract.</div></div>
I disagree with you about Brooks becoming DeAngelo, but that's fine; your mind is in the right place and the proposal isn't bad, I just think Brook is not a piece that makes the Rangers want to do this more than they already would.
Domi probably would be better than Strome, but that's not saying much. The reason I'm said what I said about a more defensive option is because clearly something about the team wasn't working. The Rangers for a long stretch last year were one of the worst defensive teams in the league, plus the Rangers are probably losing one of their best defensive players (Jesper Fast) in UFA, so I think bringing in someone with a little more defensive ability would make more sense when we were already a strong offensive team.
And I'm with you that there definitely have been rumours about Domi and NYR, I'm not saying the proposal is bad or anything, just giving my opinion of what I would do if I was NYR in this situation.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 11, 2020 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread:
One trade at a time for a total fix
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. Brook is basically a throw in you are right but his ceiling is very good if he can put it together, that being said the Rangers are set on the right side so I don't see them wanting to take the chance on him. Instead I could see Harris being of interest the the Rangers and it doesn't mess with the Habs long term plans either. I think you're off a little on the value of Armia though, especially with the new rules limiting conditional picks to just being performance based. I don't think you can look at a players value as a rental anymore with a full year left on his contract. Armia at full value is worth between a late 1st and early 2nd in this years draft. I think you have to base his value at that even without an extension, but only when assessing a value as part of this type of deal cause your not really getting anything for Armia. Armia is just added here to add value from the Habs side, if the deal was just Armia for a pick then I think you value him as a rental and go Armia for a conditional 2022 3rd which upgrades to a 2nd if he plays 1 game for the Rangers in 2021-22. That makes up for not being able to add a conditional pick based on the player signing an extension. Just a loophole type of thing.
2. I get your view here
3. Yeah the 2nd makes more sense to add someone like Kulak, Mete or Yelonen instead as they are depth pieces and are worth about a 2nd or 3rd ish and would be more help to the rangers than the 2nd.</div></div>
The Armia comment was my fault; I forgot that CF moved the year forward, so I thought that the last year of his contract was 19-20, not 20-21. I still don't value him that highly as a piece coming back in a deal that includes Buch; he's basically just a slightly older and imo slightly worse replacement for Buch, so I'm not a huge fan of it, but you can ignore all of the Kevin Hayes stuff; I thought Armia needed a new contract now, not next year.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 11, 2020 at 10:31 a.m.
Thread:
One trade at a time for a total fix
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>honestly speaking, if you want to fill the 2 Center role you are going to have to give up one of Kreider, Kakko, Buchnevich or Panarin. Unless your plan is to trade 1st OVA! By my estimation Panarin, Kakko and 1st OVA are likely not being traded. So that leaves Kreider or Buchnevich the question then becomes who does your trade partner want. Likely 9 out of 10 teams are going to want Buchnevich as he is simply the better player. Most Montreal fans would consider a Kreider trade as sacrilegious after him injuring Price LOL. So your probably not getting an offer for Kreider to the Habs, so your going to have to suffer through a lot of Buchnevich proposals.</div></div>
The issue with it for me is not trading Buch or DeAngelo, of course you have to give to get. I'm a big Buch fan which hurts but I know that he's an appealing piece for a lot of teams.
It's that the return, to me, isn't good enough. Brook is a throw-in; the whole reason we can trade DeAngelo is because we have no use for a mediocre prospect with Trouba and Fox here to stay and with Nils Lundkvist on the way for the bottom pairing spot. For us, Brook would just be another D prospect eating minutes in Hartford; it just doesn't move the needle. Armia is a pending UFA whose signing rights are not really worth anything (a player who would get big money like Kevin Hayes' signing rights was only like a 4th or 5th round pick, a player like Armia whose UFA market would be much smaller would be worth much less). If you removed those two pieces, it wouldn't change the value of the deal to me at all.
Domi and a 2nd are cool, but I'm personally not a big Max Domi fan, I personally wouldn't think to target him because a) I'm not certain the Rangers would be looking for another very offensively minded player who struggles defensively; I would think that they would be trying to target a player that brings more to the table defensively, since that's an area they struggle and b) I'm not convinced of his value as a 2C (though this is of course arguable, I'm not saying this as a "you're wrong" type comment, just explaining my pov).
The 2nd is nice because we don't have one this year but if we're trading NHL talent in Buch/DeAngelo for Domi to plug a hole at 2C, I don't think a future asset is something that's so appealing to the Rangers that it acts as the sweetener it is meant to be; if the Rangers are making a trade like this, it's to trade from a position of strength (winger that we have many of and our 3rd pairing RHD that should be playing a higher role and that we can replace with a prospect already in our pipeline in the next couple of years) to address a position of weakness (2C) in the interest of significantly improving the team right now, and the 2nd doesn't really help us do that directly.
It's not a bad idea by any stretch, there have been rumours I've seen of NYR inquiring about Domi, this is all just my personal take. I'm sure he would cost more, but I would personally be more interested in acquiring Danault because while he may not have the offensive abilities that Domi has, he brings a lot to the table defensively and in the faceoff circle that I think would be useful to diversify the Rangers and I think is a more steady C vs Domi being, to me, more of a winger, and probably would have similar contract demands. Again, not trying to dump on the proposal, just giving my opinion.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 10, 2020 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread:
Off-season Retooling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>what happened to the Carolina 1st? I made an AGM just now and they dont have that pick</div></div>
It looks like the picks you can trade start in 2021 now that the default starting season is 2020-2021.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 8, 2020 at 10:23 a.m.
Thread:
Because Domi with the BlueShirt works 2-3C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>Why you don't think that NYR would be a great fit?
Kreider- Ziba- Laffy
Panarin- Strome- Kakko
Chytil- Domi- FAst
And with Fox emergions DeAngelo is spendable for a 2/3C quality fix</div></div>
We aren't really interested in another guy that maybe is a good solution but also quite possibly isn't. First, Chytil is going to get every opportunity at C, they're not trying to move him to the wing. Second, the whole problem right now is the Rangers don't have a legit confirmed 2C. They don't think Ryan Strome is a long-term answer at that spot and Chytil maybe will be a 2C but he isn't quite there yet. So trading for another guy that is like maybe a 2C but probably isn't and might be better on the wing just compounds the problem they already have. If they can't get a legit 2C, then they'll just roll with Strome at 2C on a bridge deal and see if Chytil can overtake him during the season. Third, the Rangers are not in a position to trade for Domi and pay him 6.5m to end up being a 3C. That's just bad asset management; you do that and you probably end up with a 3rd line making over 13m (with Kreider probably ending up on the 3rd line eventually with Lafreniere coming in). That would be a disaster.
Kulak is whatever, Poehling for us is borderline zero value because it will be hard for him to crack our lineup consistently, being really deep with wingers, the picks are cool and we'll take them. We can easily give up that package, Tony and Buch are expendable enough. I just think Domi would be a weird target for the Rangers; those kinds of half measures I think don't make a ton of sense for the Rangers. I don't perceive Domi as a 6x6.5m 2C player, which is why I wouldn't be interested, I don't think he's that good of a fit really. He had one super popoff year and kind of fell back to earth to the point we're not really convinced of him being a 2C. If they really think he's a plug and play 2C, then this is more or less fine I think, but I'm not convinced of that at this time. I think Danault makes a lot more sense as a target, a guy who can eat 2C minutes for a year while Chytil develops and then can be paid a little less for a little less term and slide down the lineup, plus being a more defensively-minded player which the Rangers could really use.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 7, 2020 at 3:40 p.m.
Thread:
Strome is our 2C Answer - No Trades
Brooks reported in a mailbag that the Rangers don't think Strome is really the answer long-term, but they won't move him until they have a replacement for him ready.
Basically, if they can get a Cirelli/Danault/whatever player to be the 2C, then they'll move him, otherwise they'll bridge him and see if Chytil can overtake him.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 5, 2020 at 9:54 a.m.
Thread:
Close
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>It's because we aren't shopping him. If we we're he would've been gone. The offers don't stop so I have no choice but to keep it realistic.</div></div>
Exactly, I see so many AGMs for fans of other teams that say stuff like "well Georgiev is obviously the odd man out" not realizing that basically every reputable writer in NY thinks that Hank has played his last game in the blue sweater.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 4, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
Thread:
Making the team younger and faster
Everyone on CapFriendly keeps assuming NYR are just going to ship off Georgiev for whatever they can get because he's "clearly the odd man out" or whatever, but if you follow along with NY media, pretty much everyone thinks that Hank has played his last game in the blue sweater, and the Rangers are very very high on Georgiev, not wanting to trade him unless it's for a really significant asset/package. Whether he'll be bought out or traded or retire is up to him of course, but a lot of us Ranger fans are coming to terms with the idea that he's on his way out.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 1, 2020 at 9:20 p.m.
Thread:
A Chip A Chair and a 2nd Chance
I think Lias would be a fine target. He's been having a pretty good time in Sweden after leaving Hartford last year. The Rangers organization seems to think pretty much the bridge has been repaired but they're going to let him cook in Sweden because he was having some homesickness issues and they're not going to bring him over unless they feel fairly confident he's going to play more of a role for the big club. They're not going to bring him back over to send him to Hartford or give him 6 minutes per night again.
With Minnesota, he could potentially come in and immediately get top 6 minutes. He's a fairly strong player physically, with a really nice nose for scoring areas, finding spots in front of the goal really effectively. He's defensively capable. He's not a great skater or super offensively skilled but he has the kind of IQ to somewhat make up for it.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 1, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
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Cirelli is guaranteed to be traded right
The Rangers can't make the money work taking Johnson back, they'd be taking on almost 12m in salary this way including Cirelli's new contract and none would be going the other way. And this is WAY more than they'd be willing to give honestly.
Say what you want about the optics of an offer sheet but it sets a clear guideline for compensation. If JBB said "this is what you have to do to get Cirelli" then hell yeah JG just says "fine we'll offer sheet him, not have to take a terrible contract we don't have space for and not have to give up one of the best young players in our organization." Or JG says "forget this there's no deal to be made" and moves on with his life.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 1, 2020 at 12:52 p.m.
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Lets Do This
Your options for just fitting it under the cap pretty much are pay a team to dump Smith and/or Staal or trade Buch. That's pretty much it.
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