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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2019 at 10:07 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I know pmwalker and I disagree on the value of Zaitsev, who I think is a solid number 4 RH dman. But even most TOR fans are willing to trade him in their proposals for a 4th or a 5th rounder.

Gudas is a solid third pairing guy, that TOR defense definitely needs. Strong, physical vet who can play PK and bang bodies.

Zaitsev is, IMO, worth Gudas straight up. Kapanen more than makes up the difference, (and any leaf fans that think he’ll re-sign for less than 3.5mil AND that he won’t get offer sheeted are fooling themselves).

The Leafs get at least 5mil in cap space, a solid, physical defender without a long term salary and three good prospects, whereas the flyers get some needed speed on the wing and hopefully a solid top defender, (IMO, pmwalker).

The leaf fans can think that Marleau will be an easy move even for nothing: (considering his age, salary, his “heart”, and the teams (who already have bad contracts and old guys and aren’t “that close” that Marleau in his swan song will help) he’ll waive his NMC to), they’re kidding themselves. They need cap space and need something on the defense. This helps with both those while retaining their key pieces and not reliant on a hopeful trade of marleau.</div></div>

Gudas and Zaitsev are somewhat similar players. (I think you may be overrating Gudas' PK abilities though). The problem with Zaitsev is the contract. Gudas makes less money, and will probably get even less dollars in his next contract (1 yr left on current deal). The last thing the Flyers should be doing is bringing in an overpaid, overtermed (made up a word, LOL) 3rd pair guy when we have so many young dmen in our pipeline. It would just be stupid, plain and simple.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2019 at 4:50 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>So if say, Giroux had multiple years where he has gotten Selke votes, would that also speak to this deficiencies on defense, or would that just prove you ever further out of your element? Bro, Im not saying Giroux is a top 10 defensive forward, what I am saying is that he is not a burden, he is not a liability, he is not deficient on defense. His advanced stats speak to it, but also his peers giving him votes for the best defensive forward award in the NHL, multiple years in a row no less!, say this. here are some links for your perusal:

<a href="https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2016.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2016.html</a>
<a href="https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2017.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2017.html</a>
<a href="https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2018.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.hockey-reference.com/awards/voting-2018.html</a>


Top 30 every single year for the last 3 years in a row, including number 16 in terms of Selke votes the year he switched to wing, sounds like I was spot on with my assessment of Giroux's defensive skills.</div></div>

Lol. Not voted on by "his peers". Voted on by the Professional Hockey Writers Association. He got 4 total votes over those 3 years (probably from the same 1 or 2 writers). The year he finished 16th he got 1 vote for 4th place. Also, he did not finish in the top 30 all 3 years.

But still, you win. Personally I think this only means there is one, maybe two lunatic hockey writers out there. But you provided tangible evidence to support your argument, and I can not. So you win. I give up.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4, 2019 at 12:35 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>Here's one:

<a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/593814-philadelphia-flyers-claude-giroux-is-the-new-bobby-clarke#slide1" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://bleacherreport.com/articles/593814-philadelphia-flyers-claude-giroux-is-the-new-bobby-clarke#slide1</a>

Oh and here's another:

<a href="https://www.mcall.com/sports/phantoms-flyers/mc-spt-flyers-jvr-20190116-story.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.mcall.com/sports/phantoms-flyers/mc-spt-flyers-jvr-20190116-story.html</a>

Now this took all of 2 seconds to find, however, you can believe that it has been said ad-naseum on Flyers broadcasts, on NHL network, on those little candid interviews they do with other players, etc. etc. etc. You're opinion may be that he is a burden defensively, and thats fine, but when you say no one thinks he is a 200 foot player, you're 100% wrong.</div></div>

Yeah you reached pretty deep for these. And neither one says anything at all about G being good defensively. The first one, which looks to be from his rookie year, makes a brief mention of giving effort on all 200 ft of the ice. The 2nd one is about JVR and how G helped him get going. Not even any remote mention of defense. I watch NHL Network all the time, and no one I've seen has ever called Giroux a good defensive player. Over the past couple of years he has certainly made a visible effort to get better defensively. He has gotten a little better, but he still just is not good at it. And yes, whenever he makes a good play the Flyers broadcast team will highlight it. They are a homer broadcast team, and that's fine, I like it like that. I've watched nearly every game of Giroux's career. At most I've missed maybe a handful of his games. And I'm telling you, he's a great player and I love the guy, but he is far from good defensively. It's hard to find stats that say that. There are advanced stats out there, which I am not a big fan of. Any stat that attempts to measure defensive ability relies to some degree on non individual factors. And commentators on NHL Network and such are reluctant to criticize players and would prefer to just talk more about what they are good at. Especially star players. You can believe what you want to believe, but I'm extremely confident in my observation that Giroux is a sub par defensive player.