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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.

Thread: Leafs

0% chance a 4 year term is signed

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.

Thread: How to End the Drought

Not even close

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2019 at 11:45 a.m.

Thread: Ferris is going to lose again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>If im Marner i want 4 years x 11 mill and im not moving off my ask</div></div>

4 yr term is out of the question. unreasonable to ask for.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Drai 2020

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snipshow4416</b></div><div>Man still no</div></div>

Lol keeping the D core together and adding a 50 goal scoring C/RW just ain't good enough for you eh

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Drai 2020

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PJosephM13</b></div><div>Neither team wins this trade</div></div>

I think Edmonton likes it. Their forward group is a train wreck outside of McD, Drai, Nuge.
Trading one of those guys for a 1RW + 2/3RW helps balance their forward group and adds PK/PP help.
IDK the team well but I know they have minimal talent outside of those top 3 guys. Cap might become a problem tho

XX - McD - Marner
XX - Nuge - Kapanen

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 6, 2019 at 4:35 p.m.

Thread: Marner for Drai

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snipshow4416</b></div><div>My opinion no because we don’t need a C</div></div>

RW

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 6, 2019 at 4:25 p.m.

Thread: Marner for Drai

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snipshow4416</b></div><div>Lol no thanks</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MG1986</b></div><div>Maybe Kenny Holland tried this one when he and Babcock (who has no authority to make a deal) had a beer together. When you consider how much wing Draisaitl has played over the last couple seasons, I would say Marner's value has kept up to match that of Leon. Even with Draisaitl's goal differential in consideration, I still think him and Marner are pretty even. Maybe you give the edge to Draisaitl because, when he does play center, it is the more "sought after" position. Either way, Draisaitl is definitely not worth Marner plus Kapanen.</div></div>

Definitely made the point of giving up alot to get Drai.
I think you have to look at a few different angles when considering it.
Including the 2mil (or more) in cap space between Marner/Drai along with the extra year(s) of control (depending on what Marner signs for)

Drai had more goals and points and you can slot him at C if needed. With the extra cap space you can chase a UFA winger which are plentiful compared to centers/D.

Boils down to: Drai + 5.2 Mil to spend = Marner + Kap + roster depth

IMO, would 100% do this trade

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2019 at 3:04 p.m.

Thread: Another 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigDog91</b></div><div>You forget about the leaf affect. Leaf players are worth more. Hahah cane trade is just bad, marner will cost more, Barrie will get 8, and leafs traded a lot better 3c because he cost 4 mill but now they sign another? Just bad try again.</div></div>

Just like some leaf fans overvalue players, non-leaf fans undervalue players and assume the worst.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: Another 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snipshow4416</b></div><div>Honestly wouldn’t be the worst thing</div></div>

So many option next year. Fun to mess around

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2019 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Laudan</b></div><div>Barrie is no go.....with 50M bonded in 7 Forwards, anything above 5M for a D isnt doable

Rielly - xxxx......................5,000,000 - 5,000,000.........................hopefully Hamonic
xxxx - xxxx........................5,500,000 - 3,000,000.........................Muzzin re-signed 4 x 5,5M and Dermott bridged 3 x 3M
Sandin - Liljegren.................800,000 - 800,000</div></div>

I looked at this also. either Brodie/Hamonic/Vatanen at the 5mil range.
I just thought Barrie is more enticing than all of those players for 2.5 mil more.
Tons of UFA options tho, which is nice

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2019 at 10:24 a.m.

Thread: 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>How do you propose keeping both Andersen and Rielly who will need extensions in the next 2 seasons? The answer is you wouldn't also, Barrie for sure is going to go FA next summer. Muzzin could be kept but I also doubt it.</div></div>

Lots of ways to make it work. Cap goes up, hyman's contract is done, replace him with entry level Nic Roberston.

Following year cap goes up again, Kessel's 1.2mil is finally off the books. Dermott could be a trade chip if Lilj can play 2RD.

It's all good mate

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2019 at 10:17 a.m.

Thread: 20-21

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jack_</b></div><div>Why do they need fabbro</div></div>

The point was to trade a RW (leafs position of strength) for a RD (position of weakness) while also saving cap space. So i was just looking at RD on entry level contracts

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 31, 2019 at 4:28 p.m.

Thread: Mehhh

That $ gets 8 years of Marner

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 26, 2019 at 4:43 p.m.

Thread: Barrie and Muzz

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Babs would be suspected in the murder of Doobie if he ever traded Hyman away.
Hyman is very good (especially for his hit), we aren't moving him.</div></div>

Love hyman, but if he's replaceable by someone close to league min and he turns 28 .. it's not a bad way to make some room

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.

Thread: Mitch

Too much $, not enough term

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2019 at 9:57 a.m.

Thread: big first line

This should happen:
1) most of the 3rd period when trailing
2) after the opponent ices the puck and are caught on the ice tired

If you have this kind of fire power you better load up. FIO Babs

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2019 at 1:21 p.m.

Thread: FIO Mitch part 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Marner gets $12,500,000
Barzal gets $9,000,000

But they are equal in trade value.

Either got to make $$ equal or adjust the trade...but both can't be right</div></div>

nope

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2019 at 12:44 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2021

Dig it, except I think Dermott gets more $.
Mikheyev will seek more $.

Barrie and Hamonic get more term

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2019 at 10:58 a.m.

Thread: FIO Mitch part 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_fan123</b></div><div>toronto doesn't need another 1c and nyi would rather keep barzal and os marner instead plus barzal is a centre and nyi doesn't have a 1c other than him</div></div>

negative

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2019 at 10:48 a.m.

Thread: FIO Mitch part 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habs_fan123</b></div><div>both decline</div></div>

negative

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2019 at 3:56 p.m.

Thread: Marner for Jones

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I just don't see the Leaf trading seven years of Marner (by this post) for three years of Jones.</div></div>

I guess the question is: how much does the 6.1mil in cap space make up for the 4 years of team control... Obviously they would have the potential to resign Jones as well

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2019 at 10:33 a.m.

Thread: 2021 marner reup with Gards

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>Your Marner signing is disgusting</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>johnston3504</b></div><div>how do you think marner is worth more than mcdavid?</div></div>

Come on now guys. Think a little

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.

Thread: 2021 marner reup with Gards

Salaries will go up every year as the cap rises/tv deal. Panarin this year at 11.6, next season Hall. Players will make more than McDavid soon, it's what happens when you lock in for 8 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: 2020 Bridge w Gards

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Gardiner's time with the Leafs is over, he is leaving his prime and isn't good enough now, he won't be getting better as he ages and loses steps with his bad back. People need to stop being so nostalgic and overly loyal to depth players. Gardiner isn't a star, so just let him go.</div></div>

Hes not being paid as a star bud. He'd look real good on third pair with reduced minutes. No nostalgia here,

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2019 at 10:12 a.m.

Thread: We match

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