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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 5:49 p.m.
Thread: Yes No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>why does the QO matter? he has to get the QO to have something to sign. if he goes to free agency. its going to be a prove it 1 year deal. because of how poorly hes played with boston. i think debrusk and his agent both know hes not worth the QO nor will he get anything major. a change of scenery either helps his case and he becomes an asset and might get his QO or he sucks and doesnt get a qo and becomes a FA.

You keep bringing up "why would any team give up anything" why would the bruins just give him away? theyre going to use him to get another piece for a playoff run or keep him as that piece if they cant get anything of value. hes still a decent goal scorer. hes playing 3rd line minutes and is 6th in goals on the team with 9. and has no pp time. Honestly i think Debrusk has done pretty decent this year, he doesnt have the assist totals but first 20ish games he played with haula and foligno who have a combined 6 goals now.</div></div>

why does the QO matter? Does that question even really deserve an answer.
But sure thing there, go ask Heinen why a QO matters.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
Thread: Getting some depth for the playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>Zucker and a conditional 2nd next year for Drouin.
If Drouin is not available for at least 80% of the games or Zucker is not on Montreal's post TDL roster in 22/23, no pick is transferred.

Zucker is just a warm body for Montreal. If they can't raise his value and trade him for more than a 2nd at the deadline next year, they keep him and get a 2nd.

If they do trade Zucker (maybe he has a good year and they get a 2nd/3rd plus a prospect with retention), then Pittsburgh doesn't owe them a pick.

If Drouin can't stay healthy, Pittsburgh doesn't owe a pick.

So as long as the trade works out for both teams, it's considered an even swap. No reason for Montreal to consider it otherwise.</div></div>

I mean if those are the terms, why even bother attaching the pick, he's not going to reach them.
Hell would he even be available to help the pens in the playoffs....I'm guessing no. At which point, why bother with any of this.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
Thread: Yes No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>his qo isint even 4.5 its 4.4 which isint even that absurd so i wouldnt even be shocked if he gets qualified.
and they definitely can sign for less than the qo aav wise if they want to because a qo is not a concrete contractual obligation. If you have an inflated qo relative to your actual value like debrusk signing for slightly less money for more term isint completely out of the question because it fronts you job security and pay security intead of taking the inflated qo on a 1 year deal and risking not getting paid as much past that. I dont really keep track of players' qualifying offers because i dont really care but its not completely insane what im saying here. Im not suggesting he signs for 2.7x3 but taking a bit less than is qo aav for longer is not out of the question</div></div>

highly doubt BOS QO him. Two years bad numbers, not equal to his QO.
Like I said, go ahead, list the players who signed less than their QO.
You didn't name one, I wonder why that is?
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
Thread: Yes No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>yeah but if he signs the qo its a 1 year deal and if hes bad again hes just completely tanked his value.

and because they can do the same thing even if they make a move for him, if he signs a qo its a 1 year deal and if he sucks again hes just tanked his market value, or he can sign for less money than his qo for longer term and have income security. its not uncommon</div></div>

did you read?

A, no guys are taking less than their QO. Go head start listing them if you think I'm wrong.
B. why would you pay him almost 5M on a QO? why? what reason does VAN have to do that. When they can just wait, watch him walk out of boston and sign him for less.
It's not like anyone is starting a bidding war on him pushing that UFA price to 5M. That isn't happening.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2022 at 3:24 p.m.
Thread: Zacha
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Tatar is the better player all around, no doubt. But can be selfish player at times.

Johnsson will run through a wall for his team. And plays with a passion he didn’t have last year.

If I am headed to playoffs, I probably take Johnsson 90% of the time.</div></div>

Honestly, a good two way selfish player is exactly what I would put on Malkin's wing.
He needs someone willing to just riffle the puck.
The problem people have playing with him is they start playing catch with him. Pens fans screaming...shoot the puck.
That's why Kessel worked so well for 2 years. Kessel was like F it, I'll shoot the puck.
Malkin knows he has to be more selfish but he's always looking for people who can help when teams clamp down on him.