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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 16, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 7, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>
He still managed to have Grier pony up a 3rd round pick lol. Something about that makes me giggle. It's like Dubas said, I'm going to fleece you and let you know that I own you just a little bit.</div></div>

Yeah that part of the trade burned pretty good. Like the rest of it makes sense for long term cap flexibility, but giving up a 3rd when SJ should be collecting assets? Booo.
It is in 2026 though, so likely they imagine not needing the pick as much as PIT will around that time. Imagine when they sell off at the TDL they will be more focused on 2024 and 2025 picks.
Forum: NHL TradesAug. 6, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.
Thread: (PIT/MTL/SJS) - Granlund, Rutta, Petry, DeSmith, Légaré, 2024 1st (PIT), 2025 2nd (PIT) for Pitlick, Hoffman for Karlsson, Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd (SJS)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Are they though? Let's do the math.

Karlsson is owed $39M over the next 4 years. San Jose retained 13%, or $5M. They took back 3 players: Hoffman ($5M), Granlund ($11M) and Rutta ($5M). This trade is costing them $26M in cash over the next 4 years.

If they had simply retained 50% on Karlsson, that would have cost them $19.5M over the next 4 years. So this trade is NOT saving them money.

Here's the other thing: what would the return have been if they had offered to retain 50%? I would think it would be significantly higher in terms of picks &amp; prospects.

Yes they do free up more cap space in year 3 and 4 doing it this way, but with the cap set to rise significantly and SJS not poised to come out of their rebuild any time soon, is this really any use to them?

I don't see any way to couch this as a successful manoeuvr by Grier.</div></div>

Grier wanted cap space and I also don't understand it.

Will be interesting to see what Grier does with the space. In 2 years Grier might make this trade look more favorable.