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Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 12, 2022 at 6:04 p.m.
Thread:
Trading back into the top 10
MTL
Kastelic, Mark
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
2022 5th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
7th overall
OTT
Dvorak, Christian
Brook, Josh
2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
2022 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
33rd/somewhere in the 40s overall
This is pretty sad, 7th overall for four 2nds
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 10, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
Thread:
Dumba and Fiala gone
MIN
Greig, Ridly
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
OTT
Fiala, Kevin
Too much for Fiala, pass
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
Thread:
Big changes
DAL
White, Colin
Del Zotto, Michael
Bernard-Docker, Jacob
OTT
Benn, Jamie ($1,500,000 retained)
33 year old Benn at $8MM cap for 3 more seasons
or
25 year old White at $4.75MM cap for 3 more seasons
Buyout MDZ for $500K cap and $750K cap for 2 seasons
Keep JBD
Easy no from Ottawa, easy no from Benn and his NMC
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 9, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.
Thread:
Patience
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JustanIdea</b></div><div>I really don't want Fiala as he is already 25 and in his prime. I want a player that will enter and play his prime with the Sens core. Also the price would be absurd. And the Buffalo trade isn't bad if you shelter him.
As for the Oilers trade I saw you're earlier comment about PJ and though that he would be perfect for the line but it's really just a base but I could see true potential there as with Kane you don't really need PJ anymore and his relationship with Edmonton is probably still a bit rocky.</div></div>
I can’t reply to that other guy because I have him on ignore, for good reason, but here’s the Senators defencemen giveaway numbers from Oct 15 on. Zaitsev had a terrible first game of the season, and it’s skewed his seasons numbers from, day one. Here are the teams final 81 games, among defencemen.
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSWa3cfWYAAdL8A?format=jpg&name=large" alt="FSWa3cfWYAAdL8A?format=jpg&name=large">
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 8, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.
Thread:
offersheet
Offer Sheets
Necas, Martin $8,200,000
2023 1st round pick
2023 2nd round pick
2023 3rd round pick
Wow that's a lot of money for a guy who had 6 goals and 12 assists for 18 points in his last 41 games (half season)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2022 at 11:08 a.m.
Thread:
If the Leafs dont make the 3rd round
TOR
Ladd, Andrew ($1,700,000 retained)
ARI
Mrázek, Petr
Abramov, Mikhail
2023 5th round pick (TOR)
TOR
Del Zotto, Michael
OTT
Ladd, Andrew
TOR
Ferland, Micheal
VAN
Del Zotto, Michael
What is this crap?
You trade for Ladd, who you then trade for Del Zotto, who you then trade for Ferland.
You made this 22/23, which means Arizona pays Ladd’s signing bonus, and with 31% retained on the remaining $1MM, Ottawa would owe Ladd $690K. If Ottawa buys Ladd out, they reduce that to $460K, just for taking the $3.565MM cap hit over 2 seasons, $3.335MM in 22/23, and $230K in 23/24.
An easy yes 😂😂😂
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.
Thread:
Helen Keller
I expect Del Zotto to get bought out, not White.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
Thread:
Helen Keller
OTT
Keller, Clayton
ARI
Brännström, Erik
Greig, Ridly
Zaitsev, Nikita
Daoust, Philippe
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
You’re trying to do too much in one trade, it’s convoluted.
NHL GM’s, with a max of 50 contracts, aren’t taking 4 contracts for 1, and they don’t usually give 3 picks for none.
There’s no rush to trade Zaitsev, except to appease the haters. If Dorion gets into a position where he needs to trade Zaitsev, he’ll do it at the TDL, when playoff teams are looking for D.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1, 2022 at 8:18 a.m.
Thread:
Realistic Next Year Playoff Contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PLDGEY</b></div><div>Im going to keep saying this until someone can give me a good answer
Why are you using draft capital to dump Zaitsev when youre not using the cap space for anything?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cowling</b></div><div>1. So Dj will stop playing him
2. Save owner money
3. Not a great look having 4.5 being a liability or just watching the game</div></div>
People keep complaining about Zaitsev, and they have no idea what he brings to the team, and his salary is irrelevant. Zaitsev, Murray, and White were all needed to make the cap floor the last couple seasons. Next season we're looking at around a $70MM opening day cap hit. The following season it will be closer to $80MM, but probably not over. At that point, both Zaitsev and Murrays contracts expire. Don't worry about Zaitsev's contract and how much he makes. People that complain about Zaitsev always point to his salary first, as if that's a credible argument. It isn't for any team not near the cap ceiling.
Zaitsev is an NHL defenceman. he is the first defenceman over the boards on the PK, the 13th best PK in the league this season. The past couple seasons Ottawa has had to deal with Coburn, Gudbranson, and a severily declining Hainsey on the PK.
There's a reason Zaitsev has 2:49 of SH time per game. Smith doesn't want to play Zub on the PK, or the PP actually, he wants him on 5v5, that's where Zub excels. You get rid of Zaitsev, and Zub spends more time on the PK. JBD will eventually replace Zaitsev, let it happen when he's ready, not when fans are throwing temper tantrums over a defensive defenceman playing a defensive role.
Zaitsev had 5 solid months, and 1 bad month, relative to his teammates
Even strength goals forced versus goals allowed
Oct - 2GF 7GA GD -5 <strong>22.2%</strong> - (4th out of 6)
Nov - 6GF 6GA GD 0 <strong>50.0%</strong> - (1st out of 8, this was the month the team was horrible)
Dec - 8GF 6GA GD +2 <strong>57.1%</strong> - (3rd out of 7)
Jan - Injured
Feb - 7GF 6GA GD +1 <strong>53.9%</strong> (3rd out of 7)
Mar - 7GF 16GA GD -9 <strong>30.4%</strong> (4th out of 6)
Apr - 11GF 10GA GD +1 <strong>52.4%</strong> (3rd out of 6)
Zaitsev was 2nd in hits by defencemen
3rd in blocked shots by defencemen
Team lowest in giveaways per 60 minutes among the regular defencemen
4th highest in takeaways per 60 among the regular defencemen
Zaitsev's first season in Ottawa wasn't great, but he's been solid these last two seasons
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic Next Year Playoff Contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Matthewslover</b></div><div>Giroux isn't going to sign with a team that will likely be a bottom 5 team again and he definitely won't sign for less than 7M</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jet11567</b></div><div>Giroux lives 5 mins from Ottawa’s home rink there’s a very real possibility he signs</div></div>
Ottawa will make Giroux an offer, but it won't be the best offer on the table for him. If he comes to Ottawa, it will be for less than going somewhere else.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 2:11 p.m.
Thread:
Extremely in-depth plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>you just said Stutzle-Pinto will get 14 mil. “as much as”. What lmao. So 8 and 6? I love Pinto but unless he somehow goes off next year for like 70 points, he is getting a bridge deal. Almost 100%. anyways this is dumb. have a good one</div></div>
$9MM and $5MM
Stützle is getting more than Brady's $8.2MM, and Pinto is getting more than White's $4.75MM
BTW, "could be as much as $14MM" is an upper limit
Don't get upset that you don't understand the intricacies of the Senators, most Sens fans don't understand either.
I agree that your comments have been dumb, but it's because of ignorance. If you don't want to understand, that's fine too, I've heard that ignorance is bliss
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
Thread:
Extremely in-depth plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>dude what. Im saying that after next season, the Sens have like 4 UFAs getting off of significant contracts, therefore creating a need to add on cap. If yall go out and sign Giroux and Forsberg to make up for it then sure, but assuming you dont spend 15 mil in FA, you need cap for the next 2 seasons</div></div>
That's the year Stützle and Pinto get their raises, and that could be as much as $14MM between them
You don't know the Sens
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread:
Extremely in-depth plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>Brown is likely to be traded and you also have like 4 defenseman making over 10 mil who are gone in a year. Not that crazy to say that over two years of Bailey's deal, you will need productive players and hit the cap with cap lol</div></div>
Your arguments are floundering
Defencemen are irrelevant to Bailey, and irrelevant to the Sens reaching the cap floor on opening day if you're considering them to be moved in a year. You're just pulling crap out of the air now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
Thread:
Extremely in-depth plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>If ant of Stutzle, Batheron, Norris, Tkachuk, Formenton and Brown are not getting top 6 minutes, then there is a problem. <strong>And the Sens need to hit the cap floor</strong>. I truly do understand why Bailey is not the forward you need, but he can shift around in the middle 6 and play anywhere with anyone.
Also there are a ton of centers in there. Its obviously pretty easy to just move one of them to the wing but you never know. Plus, after the Hamonic deal you really never know with these guys</div></div>
I stopped reading at "cap floor". It's obvious you don't know anything about the Senators
$59,055,714 total cap already alloted for next season
RFA's to sign
Norris
Formenton
Joseph
Gambrell
Gaudette
Brännström
Mete
After Norris signs for $6MM-$7MM, and Formenton & Joseph receive about $3MM combined, three more forwards and that puts the Sens over $70MM
And you think Ottawa needs help getting over the cap floor, lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
Thread:
Extremely in-depth plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>NYI
2022 5th round pick (BOS)
OTT
Bailey, Josh
Machu, Tomas [Reserve List]
2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Senators have the cap, could add an additional <strong>middle 6 winger</strong> and take the extra pick.</div></div>
Senators don't need another "middle 6 winger". After their best four (Stützle, Batherson, Norris, Tkachuk), they have;
Brown, Joseph, White, Formenton, Pinto
That's nine forwards
Ottawa is looking for a top6 foward, which would mean they already have one too many top9 forwards. Bailey just makes it worse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>I would 100 x prefer to buy out Colin White than getting stuck with Ladd, even if just 1 year</div></div>
Ottawa is likely to be on Ladd's list of list of 15 teams he can not be traded to, but aside from that, even if Ottawa wasn't, this is the kind of trade a teenager thinks up, it's ridiculous. It's like saying White has zero value, but they really want him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 26, 2022 at 10:17 a.m.
Thread:
Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cartersNo1</b></div><div>Arizona gets less money and Ottawa gets less term</div></div>
😂
Just to be clear, no
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 23, 2022 at 9:12 p.m.
Thread:
Ideas
OTT
Ladd, Andrew
ARI
White, Colin
😂
Just to be clear, no
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 23, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
Thread:
Unlikely trade partners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>well im defenitly not arguing that he is worth that package, he is not imo. all im saying is the fact someone was picked up on waiver at some point is a bit relevant qhen you want to assess is tade value 6-9 months later, because other variables will be more important by that time. im not really sure qhat qe are arguing about, i just wanted to say that it was a bad argument to use in the first place '' he was on waiver a while ago, could have had him for free at starts of season blablabla''. what relevant is what he has done since, not that he was in waiver. but yeah, he is not worth tgat package at atll imo. maybe.one day!</div></div>
Rem Pitlick was acquired off waivers Jan 12th, and we can only assess his possible change in value from then until today, so it's 3 months after acquisition, and trying to stretch it to 6-9 months does not make your argument stronger, it makes it weaker because you're being disingenuous with the time frame.
My point is, sugesting that I mentioned he was a waiver wire pickup was not just distracting from the main point, but incorrect. You can believe what you want, but waiver wire pickups are considered, "one mans trash" so to speak. He wasn't a top 14 forward.
And no he isn't "another mans treasure" either, he's depth
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2022 at 9:06 p.m.
Thread:
Sergachev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Point21</b></div><div>yes cause a 23 year old dman putting up about .50 PPG with a QO of 5m next year and still has a year left is worth nothing cause he has a few bad games like every other dman in the league..</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>$7,200,000</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Point21</b></div><div>he signed it after the change, it would be a little over 5m</div></div>
Okay, under the new rule
<strong>For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)
Reference: 2020 NHL CBA extension Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)</strong>
It's $5,760,000 ($4.8MM x 120%)
Less than the $7.2MM, more than a little over $5MM.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.
Thread:
Unlikely trade partners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>care to explain a bit?</div></div>
You need the nuances of waiver wire pickup valuations explained? Do you realize how many variables are involved in that? Yes a player can alter his value after being picked up, but so can every player change their value game to game. It's like draft position, it has value, but it's less relevant the further from the draft day, but still relevant for some time.
Now, are you purposely arguing the minutia to distract from the point that the waiver wire pickup isn't worth the pieces in the trade scenario?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22, 2022 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread:
Unlikely trade partners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>is he worth that? maybe not. but the fact he was picked up on waiver does not affect his value.</div></div>
Of course it affects his value, and although each waiver claim is affected differently doesn't negate that they are affected.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21, 2022 at 6:59 p.m.
Thread:
Experimental Jets
WPG
2024 4th round pick (OTT)
- Dillon's market value is anywhere from a late 3rd to an early 5th.
OTT
Dillon, Brenden
Additional Details:
- Grit for the Senators
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YourWinnipegJets</b></div><div>That take on Dillons return is not true at all. He can fetch at least one second and another draft pick. The market value for defencemen is very high right now.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Wouldn't be surprised if someone traded for Dillon, but Ottawa isn't a team that really needs his services. Look at their left side next year.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>toque</b></div><div>No way Dillon's value has dropped that much</div></div>
It's Brenden Dillon...
If we're talking grit, how about a slightly used Zaitsev for Dillon?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
Thread:
Unlikely trade partners
MTL
Thomson, Lassi
2022 3rd round pick (OTT)
OTT
Pitlick, Rem [RFA Rights]
You claim a guy off waivers and now you think he's worth Lassi Thomson and a 3rd?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.
Thread:
Sergachev
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Point21</b></div><div>yes cause a 23 year old dman putting up about .50 PPG with a QO of 5m next year and still has a year left is worth nothing cause he has a few bad games like every other dman in the league..</div></div>
$7,200,000
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