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Forum:
NHL Trades
Mar. 21, 2019 at 10:02 a.m.
Thread:
(CHI / ARI) - Duclair, Clendening for Pánik, Dauphin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DSZ</b></div><div>This aged well</div></div>
Oooof. Like moldy cheese...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jan. 22, 2019 at 6:29 p.m.
Thread:
BackesRask Trade
Trying to respond to everyone at once...
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>How does StL afford 8.65 mill being added to their already cramped cap situation</div></div>
So as many have pointed out, St. Louis is going to have significant cap space opening up, with three defensemen hitting free agency. Meanwhile, no significant forward is hitting FA for them. Since Bowmeester probably is not going to be resigned, Edmundson shouldn't expect much of a raise (probably not above $4.5), and Gunnarsson can probably be brought back for cheaper, the 8.65 if worth it for them uniquely, specifically because of how David Backes fits into their team immediately. Meanwhile, St. Louis gets the starter they've needed for years.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div><strong>Last 15 Games</strong>
Halak - 2.99 GAA / .899 SV%
Rask - 2.22 GAA / .924 SV%
But hey lets trade Rask and let Halak be our stater</div></div>
This is true and I can't deny this. However, Rask is one of the few pieces that this team can likely move to make cap space for McAvoy, Carlo, Heinen, etc. Because he has put up good numbers lately, his value is still high, enough for the Blues to take a buyout-proofed Backes contract back, while still getting a pick back. I don't love to do this, but the only other alternative I see is trading Krecji, and I think that's a tougher move to replace. There are quality goaltenders on the FA market this year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yet_another_armchair_gm</b></div><div>Ignoring the trade, Erik Karlsson is in no way the FA the Bruins need.</div></div>
I made the assumption here Zdeno Chara retires. If that happens and the Bruins have the cap space, I think they would be well served to get Karlsson. That being said, I also considered Panarin/Stone in the discussion also.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jan. 22, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.
Thread:
(VGK/MIN) - Hunt and 2019 6th round pick for 2019 5th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Not sure why so many people picked Minnesota to win this. Vegas gets a better pick in exchange for a 7th defensemen who was going to walk on July 1st.</div></div>
You're right, Vegas did get value. But Minnesota got cheap depth who can play anywhere in the bottom four. In a sheltered role with Vegas, Hunt has been excellent. Plus, moving down between the fifth and sixth rounds is a statistically small difference.
Both teams got something, I just think Minnesota got more bang for their buck. Vegas was in a weak negotiating position.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jan. 22, 2019 at 12:24 a.m.
Thread:
(VGK/MIN) - Hunt and 2019 6th round pick for 2019 5th round pick
Roster jams! Nice pickup by Minny.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jan. 17, 2019 at 10:37 p.m.
Thread:
(CAR/MIN) - Rask for Niederreiter
Disclaimer: The Hurricanes are one of the few teams I invest significant emotional energy in, so this may be a slightly colored opinion.
When Rask was signed to that 6yr, $4mil extension, a lot of people looked at his trajectory curve and defined him as a #1 center in the making. Obviously, that has not happened. He does do some things well (he's adept at entering the zone, and he makes pretty good transition passes from defense to offense). As many have pointed out, he's a positive faceoff man (though I don't think he's positive enough to make a consistent/noteable difference).
However, players in this league that can consistently score the puck and drive play are extremely valuable. Nino has had a strong relative CF% over the years in Minnesota, and is still in the black. Additionally, he continues to score points, and is on a 40-point pace in what many would consider a bad season for him. Meanwhile, Rask is in an epic slump and on pace for a total nearing 20 points on the season (he did miss a significant chunk of time with finger surgery) and has had the bottom completely fall out in terms of shot production on the ice. While Nino is not a center, the Canes trio of Aho-Staal-Wallmark has proven to be more than serviceable, and Rask was easily the odd man out. More scoring talent (in general, but especially with what seems to be the imminent departure of Ferland) is a great pickup for that.
I can't say the same thing in Minnesota, a team not lacking centers. Theoretically, it's possible to see Rask filling the 3C spot in Minnesota, but that seems like a ceiling, more than a floor.
Ultimately I think what would be considered a good season for Rask is probably the floor for what Nino can accomplish. The Wild get some credit for clearing a little space, but the Hurricanes don't get any demerits: they have lots of cap space to use.
I think the Canes win this one in a walk, barring significant injury to NN.
Forum:
New Jersey Devils
Nov. 19, 2018 at 4:46 a.m.
Thread:
What's Wrong With the Devils?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>They're def gonna need Zacha to get his game together if they're gonna get back in the mix. He had no points in 10 games before being sent to the AHL. Seney and Joey Anderson are too weak on both sides of the puck. What are your thoughts on Schneider? What do they do w/ him? It seems like Kinkaid is the #1 at this point but Schneider makes $6M for the next 4 seasons!</div></div>
They're going to have to rehabilitate Schneider, in some way. Tonight against Carolina was promising (but, grain of salt, it's against Carolina and just one game). But the way he's currently playing, that contract is untradable.
Kinkaid hasn't been great lately but he's still clearly a starting-caliber goaltender. That's not their big problem right now.
I would point to scoring depth as a pretty enormous problem. They have probably two top-line wingers in Palmieri and Hall, two #2 centers in Hischier and Zajac, and not much beyond that. MJ is a nice piece but probably is like Mathieu Perrault for the Devils - an excellent middle six player who shouldn't be counted on for more than that.
Ultimately, losing for the Devils is probably much better than making the playoffs. They need more young guys, and it's hard to find great young guys. I would expect them to be big Nylander players if he's really on the market.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 6, 2018 at 9:43 a.m.
Thread:
Dylan Larkin and Anthony Mantha: Offer Sheet Targets?
I know offer sheets never happen anymore, but I can't resist thinking that the timing may be too perfect for these two players.
Stats from 2017-18
Dylan Larkin: 16G, 47A, 63P, 19:51 AvgTOI, 49.9 FO%, 50.7 CF% (+2.9rel)
Anthony Mantha: 24G, 24A, 48P, 17:18 AvgTOI, 51.8 CF% (+4.1rel)
Both players have shown themselves to be remarkable contributors on the upswing. Mantha is just 23, Larkin only 21.
Meanwhile, here are some key Detroit salary cap figures
Remaining 18-19 Cap Room: $6.127 million
Remaining players to add: 1 defenseman
Moveable contracts > $1mil:
- Luke Glendening (1.85)
- Tyler Bertuzzi (1.4)
- Martin Frk (1.05)
- Johan Franzen (~4, LTIR)
- Frans Nielsen (5.25, 10 team no-trade)
- Niklas Kronwall (4.75, 10 team trade)
- Jonathan Ericcson (4.25, 19 team no-trade)
- Jimmy Howard (5.291)
As you can see, it would be a magic act for the Red Wings to fit both of these players into that $6mil window. Almost all of those moveable players are near-negative assets or worse.
Is there an opportunity for one savvy team to go after Mantha or Larkin here, or am I just dreaming?
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 5, 2018 at 11:02 p.m.
Thread:
Carolina Hurricanes signed Trevor van Riemsdyk (2 Years / $2,300,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I like the Canes D, but they still don't have a goalie. Anyways...the signing to me is a bit counter intuitive. Is TVR supposed to be a $2.3m scratch at times? Is CAR going to try to develop Hayden or Jake anytime soon? It almost seems like they forced their own hand in a way. They may not get the same trade value for Faulk.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluetomorrow83</b></div><div>They were never going to get top value for Faulk after the Hamilton trade, basically everyone knows thats the odd man out even before this TVR signing</div></div>
Bean was not going to play in the NHL (most likely). Hadyn Fleury might, and I would still expect Faulk to be traded, but there's a nonzero chance Faulk stays, if nothing else but for Carolina to raise his value early in the year.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jul. 5, 2018 at 8:31 p.m.
Thread:
Carolina Hurricanes signed Trevor van Riemsdyk (2 Years / $2,300,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>krakowitz</b></div><div>The worst part about the deal is the UFA expiry status</div></div>
He's 26......one way or another and he was going to be an UFA.
I'm quite happy with this. Cheap, effective third-pairing guy that I'm not worried about if he gets caught up against a top line. Can play with Faulk if GMDW decides to keep him, or with Fleury if Faulk is traded out. Canes defense is simply terrifying.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 5, 2018 at 3:45 p.m.
Thread:
The Leafs CAN keep all of Matthews, Marne, Taveres and Nylander in 2019-20. My thoughts on how.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ILoveTheLeafs</b></div><div>There has been much debate on the 35+ contract and its cap effect if bought out. There are different insights depending on which site you look at. So I am not as confident as you are that buying out Marleau's final year would not result in cap relief.</div></div>
Nope, he's correct. Marleau can be bought out, but there would be no relief. However, the Leafs could execute a trade.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ILoveTheLeafs</b></div><div>Hi Darryl...do not be so sure on that. I put up a poll on that very question and so far 75% have said he is getting up to 8M as I suggested.</div></div>
I would feel pretty confident in saying that Marner represents a greater player than JVR and E. Kane, who have both received $7mil deals. $8mil sounds like a reasonable price, unless he's squeezed down as an RFA to a lower value.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 5, 2018 at 3:02 p.m.
Thread:
The Leafs CAN keep all of Matthews, Marne, Taveres and Nylander in 2019-20. My thoughts on how.
I don't think you're particularly far off, but I would adjust a few things.
1) Nylander and Marner's numbers are probably a little low. I don't know if I would adjust either by more than $500k upwards, and that might be cancelled out by Mathews' $12 (which I see more likely an $11+), but something to consider.
2) Kapanen and Johnsson are also probably a little low. I would go 2+ for Kapanen and 1.8 for Johnsson. Both will be short deals.
3) If the team returns Hainsey, then $4mil sounds like the high water mark. If it returns Gardiner, that number is FAR too low. Look in the $7-8mil range.
Everything else looks about right.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 4, 2018 at 7:06 a.m.
Thread:
Which Team do you think will have the best offseason?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>Blues did better than Toronto yes they brought in Tavares but lost JVR Blues didn’t lose anyone really that valuable besides hutts.</div></div>
Besides Tavares being a vastly superior player, I don't view JVR as much of a loss. The Leafs have exceptional depth at wing.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 4, 2018 at 1:46 a.m.
Thread:
Which Team do you think will have the best offseason?
My offseason winners (A- or better grade)
Washington Capitals (A)
Toronto Maple Leafs (A)
Philadelphia Flyers (A)
Carolina Hurricanes (A)
St. Louis Blues (A-)
Losers (D- or worse)
New York Islanders (F)
Ottawa Senators (F)
Vancouver Canucks (F)
Chicago Blackhawks (D-)
Anaheim Ducks (D-)
Forum:
NHL
Jun. 28, 2018 at 10:17 p.m.
Thread:
John Tavares Sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rodzikhockey93</b></div><div>I think you are forgetting one major question:
Which team will i have the most long term success in? I think above all, he is going to go to a team where he feels he will play the best. For the first 2-3 years that would be SJ. But remember, Burns is getting old by then, Pavelski will be gone, Thornton is out. Then he is in a way back to square 1 being " The guy" because the talent pool after that drops prett drasitically other than couture. in TML he would have a solid 6-8 years of long term success where the fame is more spread out throughout the team between him matthews and marner. I don't think he would be the #1 guy in TML as i think Matthews will be right wtih him. The market is heavier in tml then SJ but the spotlight will be allmsot as bad in SJ once the team starts to get younger</div></div>
If Tavares signs in Toronto, he might not end up being the #1 center, but, at worst, he's a 1B, and he's absolutely going to be seen from a media standpoint as the top guy.
I'm not sure Tavares is willing to sell on the Sharks as a long term contender either. Yes, their players are getting up there in age, but there's no reason to think they will dramatically fall off in skill. Furthermore, San Jose has proven to know how to build around a core, so even as that core ages out, they should do a pretty solid job of filling around them.
No question, the Leafs can provide the hometown angle, and I could be wrong in a fair number of my assumptions. But it isn't the kind of vibe I get from him.
Forum:
NHL
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:58 p.m.
Thread:
John Tavares Sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>krakowitz</b></div><div>Marleau doesn’t have to be moved. They’ll have both Marleau and Horton expiring at the same time, which is almost a combined $12M. That’s going to give them a ton of relief and enough room for their core.</div></div>
The tougher part is the year in-between, where Mathews, Marner, and Nylander all are making 7+. Moving Marleau isn't necessarily required, but it likely means other salary/players are on their way out, or you're getting quite the hometown discount from those three.
Here's where I think Tavares stands in the thinking process.
- I can win a Cup with at least five of the six franchises, and potentially the sixth (NYI)
- I will make loads of money wherever I go, so while the tax issues are nice, there are ways around it
BUT there are three key questions we don't know the answer to:
1) Does Tavares want to be "the guy"? If he does, then NYI and Toronto become the top destinations. If not, the other four become much more appealing.
2) Is Tavares willing to sign a short term deal? If he does, this favors Tampa, Toronto, Boston, and Dallas. If not, then it favors the Islanders and the Sharks.
3) Does Tavares want to be in a location where hockey is towards the top of the food chain? If he does, then Toronto and Boston make sense. Otherwise, San Jose, NYI, Tampa, and Dallas work.
1Y, 2Y, 3Y -> Toronto
1N, 2Y, 3Y -> Boston
1Y, 2N, 3N -> New York Islanders
1N, 2Y, 3N -> Dallas and Tampa
1N, 2N, 3N -> San Jose
I've gotten the indication that the answer to each of those questions is "No". Therefore, San Jose is the team I would expect him to go to.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jun. 26, 2018 at 1:10 p.m.
Thread:
Pittsburgh Penguins signed Bryan Rust (4 Years / $3,500,000 AAV)
Seems high to me considering he normally plays around 2/3rd of an NHL season......although I guess that's the benefit of having Crosby and Malkin at below-market deals.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jun. 26, 2018 at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
(CGY / CAR) - Hanifin, Lindholm for Hamilton, Fox, Ferland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyplayer1</b></div><div>I think you have to anticipate a 21 year old rookie to grow. Sure he averaged 16 minutes a night as a 3rd pairing guy, but not many 21 year old D can play in the NHL. He was getting more ice-time near the end of the season than he did in the beginning. I don;t think its unreasonable to have him playing a #4 role by the middle or end of next season.</div></div>
Maybe by the end, but you certainly can't expect it and need to make a move in case it doesn't happen. Fleury was being absolutely caved-in on the third pairing, posting a -4.5 Corsi Rel% and an xGF% which ranks in the bottom 20% league wide, despite seeing relatively favorable zone start deployment and competition.
It could happen, but I wouldn't bank on it. I would be exploring other options for a short-term #2 LHD, if you don't intend to put Faulk there.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jun. 25, 2018 at 12:50 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY / CAR) - Hanifin, Lindholm for Hamilton, Fox, Ferland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyplayer1</b></div><div>What happens to Faulk now?
CAR now has 3 first pairing RHD plus TVR.
Slavin - Pesce
Fleury - Hamilton
Dahlbeck/Bean? - TVR</div></div>
The door is open for Faulk to be traded, although it would be interesting to see if they attempt to put Faulk or Dougie on their off sides, so that they're in one-timer position. Additionally, with the organization struggling to sign their RFAs, it wouldn't surprise me if they keep Faulk just because he's under contract.
In terms of players who could fill that #2 LHD spot, I would be highly suspect of Fleury or Dahlbeck. Bean is a nice prospect but probably not ready for full-time NHL duty, never mind a top 4 position. I would expect for them to make a run at someone via trade or free agency who can fill in that spot, at least for this season.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>After Treviling said he wasn't going to trade Dougie, he does! Wow huge suprise. Calgary wins IMO as they got a younger dman who is going to be a elite defenseman in a year or 2 and they get Lindholm who i also think is going to be a dominant scorer in the league for years to come.</div></div>
I think this shows a lack of familiarity with the Hurricanes recent play.
You seem to assume that Hamilton and Hanifin are roughly equal, when that simply is not true. Hamilton is a true #1 defenseman, making just about anyone with a tad bit of skill a positive player. Although the Hamilton-Giordano pair was symbiotic, there's no question that Hamilton had more success when away from Giordano: just check their WOWY charts.
Meanwhile, although Hanifin certainly had a solid season, he was absolutely put into a more sheltered role, as the Slavin-Pesce top pair ate up most of the difficult minutes. While he's probably a high-end middle pairing guy right now, there's no doubt he is the inferior player to Hamilton, and I personally see his ceiling is lower than Dougie's, if he even reaches it.
Lindholm has never been, and never will be, a dominant scorer. On a Carolina team where he was consistently paired with Jeff Skinner, Lindholm never produced more than 45 points in a season, and has a low shooting percentage for a top-six forward. We're at the point where his shooting skill is a known minus to his game, and although he grades better defensively and as a playmaker, I would not expect him to crack 20 goals or 60 points in any season. Additionally, if and when the Flames pay him just south of $5mil per season, they will probably not be getting their money's worth.
I'll admit Ferland and Fox were probably irrelevant pieces to the Flames, so Calgary probably got more value from their perspective, but there's no question in my mind that Hamilton easily beats Hanifin and makes up part of the difference between Lindholm and Ferland. Adding Fox likely puts this over the top for Carolina, although we'll have to wait a few years to see how this trade truly grades out.
Forum:
NHL
Jun. 22, 2018 at 5:32 p.m.
Thread:
Kovalchuk As A 35+ UFA
Considering he scored 63 points in 53 games in the second best league in the world, I have no problem with teams giving him 2-yr, 6-8mil contracts. He's clearly still productive, and will immediately fill into any teams top six. Obviously, that number might be a tad high, but considering it's just a two year deal, there are definitely worse contracts a GM could imagine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:59 p.m.
Thread:
Skinner and Faulk to CHI, Sparks from TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>Pesce may cost more than I am willing to pay then. A 1st, and two good prospects with NHL experience (albeit small, Rosen has only played 2 games in the NHL I believe), for Pesce seems pretty fair.
And as I was writing this, I realized I left out Sparks in the trade. Take out Bracco and replace with sparks.
Pesce for a 1st rounder, Sparks and Leivo or Rosen
Some may say that is a steep price to pay but I think its fair, perhaps a little bit better for Carolina, considering their depth on the blue line. I've seen packages compared to this for Hanafin.</div></div>
Two things:
1) Nobody would say that's steep. I'd say that's a deeply-Leafs biased trade.
2) If anyone is talking about that package for Hanifin, they're either A) giving up a much higher pick than 25th (think: 6-9). or B ) also talking from a deeply-Leafs biased perspective
Seems to me like Carolina defensemen are far too rich for the cost you're willing to pay.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
Skinner and Faulk to CHI, Sparks from TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>I would pencil Pesce in the top pairing in TO to play with Reilly. If I was Dubas, I would also trade Gardiner for some good assets and move Dermott into the second pairing. In my opinion Dermott's upside is way higher than Pesce who I think will be an extremely good partner for a guy like Reilly and will chip in with 20-30 points, kill penalties and be excellent in his own end. Dermott I think will QB the Leafs second PP unit in the very near future. That ceiling puts him ahead of Pesce value wise since offence is the premium and Pesce is limited in that regard. Still a very valuable player, just a different sort of value.
Dermott is a no go from the Leafs. So I think we'd have to rejig with a different prospect. Also Liljegren is completely off the table.
How about
Pesce for the 25th pick, Rosen and Bracco?
Rosen I think will be a very solid NHL defencemen. More of a 2nd pairing guy who can run a PP as well. Bracco has a tonne of upside as well but he's burried by the Leafs depth at RW.</div></div>
There's no chance that trade would happen. Your projection for Pesce might not be unreasonable, but the value you're willing to provide in compensation for the player isn't anywhere close to reasonable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2018 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Skinner and Faulk to CHI, Sparks from TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>You are going way overboard for a defensive defenceman. Dermott could very well already be more valuable. He showed great in his first half season in the NHL. Johnsson and Kapanen could score 40 goals between the two and Sparks was the best goalie in the AHL last year, (Goaltending being the biggest weakness Carolina has). A defensive defenceman isn't worth 40 goals, let alone a highly regarded young goalie and a 22 year old defencemen poised to join the top 4 in TO as soon as this season.
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With this evaluation (Literally just made this up) I would say Sparks and Johnsson would make a fair trade for Pesce. Throw in a 3rd from TO for good measure but all 4 of those pieces is an extreme over payment.
Chris Tanev, who is currently better than Pesce, albeit a more injury prone player, (a lot of those injuries are bad luck though) would only net the Canucks a 2nd and a non roster prospect. So I think something like Sparks, Johnssson and a 3rd would be a fair price for Pesce.</div></div>
I mean you can think what you want, but you're ignoring a significant number of realities and really only looking at it from a Leafs' homer perspective. You seem to define Pesce as a defensive defenseman and therefore a #5 at best, when in reality he plays a #2 or #3 at worst for Carolina. He's definitely better than Tanev (check hockey reference -> nearly the same PPG along with much better possession metrics and shot charts, especially with no powerplay time) and he's locked in at an extremely reasonable rate for a top 4 defenseman for six years. Furthermore, Carolina needs pieces to play in their lineup NOW, not later.
Meanwhile, in my mind, you overrate the Leafs pieces (especially Kapanen, who probably profiles as a third-line winger) significantly, while failing to realize that the total impact of those Leafs on the current roster isn't very large (Dermott plays the most significant role, as the #5 defenseman).
Maybe I came in too high, but I think anything not involving Dermott-caliber or better is a non-starter for Carolina.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2018 at 10:51 a.m.
Thread:
Skinner and Faulk to CHI, Sparks from TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>My assessment of Pesce is a younger less injury prone version of Chris Tanev. Is that fair? If so then that price tag is insane for a solid defensive defenceman. Nylander is worth far more than any defensive defenceman, Period. Same goes for Kadri who's scored back to back 30. That would make Kadri more valuable than Skinner and Nylander is far more valuable than Kadri.
Wouldn't a more fair deal be Pesce for a 1st + a non roster prospect?</div></div>
That might be the case if he was a rental. But consider that he's locked up for six more seasons at an extremely affordable rate while playing an absolutely crucial role for the Canes, and that's the price you're talking about. Plus, the Leafs first isn't high enough to get a player that can reliably play on the Canes roster within a year, so that doesn't help Carolina move in the direction they want to go. None of the Leafs' prospects move the needle enough to change that.
A fair package might be Dermott + AJ + Kapanen + Sparks + assorted draft pick compensation.
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Armchair-GM
Jun. 20, 2018 at 10:42 a.m.
Thread:
Skinner and Faulk to CHI, Sparks from TOR
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LoganOllivier</b></div><div>What do you think TO would have to add to get Pesce out of Carolina? Perhaps Sparks and a 2nd for Pesce? Or maybe Sparks, Rosen/Borgman and a 2nd for Pesce?</div></div>
Yeah I think getting Pesce out of Carolina wouldn't be worth it for the Leafs. If you aren't starting the discussion with Nylander or Kadri, then you're talking Dermott + AJ + more. It wouldn't be a good deal for the Leafs in the long run.
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NHL
Jun. 19, 2018 at 9:39 a.m.
Thread:
Cap Dump Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Depends on the cap hit, actual money owed, length of contract, talent of the player. Of course it also depends on the other team involved in taking the cap dump.
The ARZ/DET deal wasn't really a normal "cap dump" since Pavel wasn't planing to play the following season.</div></div>
I mean I think it's obvious it depends on all those factors, but I'm talking a more general, per-million or per-2mil basis.
ARZ/DET was a cap dump in the strictest of definitions since Datsyuk's contract took up nothing but cap space. If you want another example, look at the Marc Savard trade to New Jersey, or the Bryan Bickell trade to Carolina.
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