I am so sick and tired of other fans saying that Puljujarvi isn’t worth a thing. Well I guess then you can say the same about Kotkaniemi. They have played almost the exact number of games and are 5 points apart and Kotkaniemi played with far superior line mates. See how RIDICULOUS that sounds. Yes Kotkaniemi is 2 years younger but he hasn’t lived up to where he was drafted either. I truly believe that Puljujarvi’s days in Edmonton are over but with the right team mates and system I think that he will be a solid second line RW.

Except KK played very good at 18 where as JP put up those numbers over the course a few years, your comparison doesn't add up, sorry

Kotkaniemi isn't even 20 yet xD. Puljijarvi ditched the NHL because he got his feelings hurt.

It all lies in the age

Sorry. But even with that explanation nobody is giving more than a second for Jesse

I'd give you a 2nd and a prospect worth a 4th for JP. Thats it. NO ONE WANTS HIM.

I wouldn't even move a 4th liner for him, the guy is crybaby. Stay in Europe scumbag

Late 2nd at that. This draft is too good to be giving up quality picks for a guy that isn't on the right path.

Isn't this more of a forum rant?

I like Puljujarvi more. Think he's gonna bounce back on his next team.

Oh here we go again. Trying to boost JP value up

I'd say he's a project player. He still has a decent chance of being a middle-6 forward (worth a 1st) but if he won't sign and if when it comes to signing his RFA deal he becomes a **** and wants way too much then theres no point. Depends on the GM. I see Dubas or Chayka or some other young smart guy acquiring him.

Ok so let’s compare him to Yakupov. KK was even less impressive in his first 2 years in the NHL.

My point isn’t that Puljujarvi is better or will be better then KK but to write off a player who just turned 22 with a ton of talent isn’t fair either.

"Young Smart Guy"

lol

Obviously production /relative to age is the lesson here for the OP.

But just to comment on the BS of KK having "better linemates"

Puljujarvi has a grand total of 9 Career points that don't have contributions from Drai/MDavid/Nuge....

No, but he has a terrible attitude and is unwilling to earn his spot on the team.

ykwim

KK dominated at the age of 18. That is impressive already enough. You can't call a guy a bust 2 years into his career

Well said, I think we could get a good pick or prospect for him. But just like you said, just because he hasn’t played very good in the NHL, doesn’t mean that he is worthless.

My point isn’t that KK is a bust, my point is that it’s way too soon to write off Puljujarvi as well

That isn’t at all what I posted this about. I am just saying that it’s too early to label him as “useless”.

Puljujarvi is less of a bust and more of a "I don't want to play here" kind of prospect which also lowers his value - we haven't seen anything impressive and he's kinda whining

No one is writing him off it's just known he does not want to play in Edmonton - which leaves Edmonton with 0 leverage in negotiating a trade

Youre already have a mix of Kotkaniemi and Puljujarvi. His name is Pajuniemi

You are misunderstanding the meaning of "value". One major reason Puljujarvi's value is very low right now is because he doesn't want to report to EDM. Meaning all EDM can do is choose what the other team offers OR let him rot in Finland. Had JP been willing to sign in EDM and try to get back to his former self, he'd be worth more in trade. Not what a former 3rd rounder should be but at least more.

As it stands right now, it makes more sense for EDM to make a statement with JP by not trading him NOR resigning him. That way he gets a chance to improve his game in Finland, EDM holds out hope he decides to come back to the team and finally they send a message to all future prospects - you can't just cry and go home to get out of your contractual obligations because you are not happy with playing time etc.....

Its not like they are missing out on any major offers from other teams or anything. Even Lebrun/Dreger mentioned a while ago that the apparent price EDM wanted, no was willing to pay and it wasn't very high anyway. So you can be sour about what you feel JP is worth but value is only what the market will pay and right now no one will pay what you seem to think he's worth.

Also the Kotkaniemi vs Puljujarvi comparison is not remotely close...... your comparing of JP's 3 unproductive years to KK's 1...... Not to mention that KK hasn't played with great players so Im not sure where you are getting that from. There's a difference in age, position, previous accomplishments, etc etc etc.

Also you have to remember that virtually every GM still wants JP and at the very least try and rehabilitate him themselves. They just don't want to pay the asking price. Until other GM's are willing to pay it, JP's value is in limbo.