Pens do some trading

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$79,789,161	$132,500	$1,195,000	$1,710,839

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Domi, Max $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Lafferty, Sam $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) RW, C, LW UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Tanev, Brandon $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 6	Blueger, Teddy $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Poulin, Samuel $925,000$925,000 C, LW RFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $7,538,462$7,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 6	Marino, John $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $675,000$675,000 G UFA - 1
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	DeSmith, Casey $1,250,000$1,250,000 G UFA - 3
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 3	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 3

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:17 a.m.

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Gordon_Bombay

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no teams says yes

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:22 a.m.

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Why not?

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:23 a.m.

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Nice troll lmao. These trades wouldn’t go through in NHL 15 with easy difficulty. You gotta give something good to get a good piece in return, unless you’re trading with Chiarelli.

For real though, I feel like you’ve put effort into this this, but the value is really off. For example, that package isn’t really enough to get rid of Johnson’s contract in a trade, how is it enough to acquire Ryan m Suter, an elite defender with amazing defense.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:26 a.m.

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

no teams says yes

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:30 a.m.

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Quoting: DriveFor25

Nice troll lmao. These trades wouldn’t go through in NHL 15 with easy difficulty. You gotta give something good to get a good piece in return, unless you’re trading with Chiarelli.

For real though, I feel like you’ve put effort into this this, but the value is really off. For example, that package isn’t really enough to get rid of Johnson’s contract in a trade, how is it enough to acquire Ryan m Suter, an elite defender with amazing defense.

It's not so much about getting RID of Johnson's contract as it is in helping Toronto get a young Defensemen under a TERRIFIC contact in Marcus Pettersson and getting a goalie of the future in the young proven Matt Murray who Dubas really likes. And getting a versatile Jared McCann who is very cheap helps replace the forwards they give up. And in the meantime Johnson would play 3rd line minutes and give them some big body strength they need to hammer in front of their own goal and then his contract runs out in two years and they say bye bye.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:32 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

MTL have Danault, KK, Zuke and Evans at C. No need for that trash of yours. Get real youre not getting a player like Domi for depth players.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:40 a.m.

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MTL have Danault, KK, Zuke and Evans at C. No need for that trash of yours. Get real youre not getting a player like Domi for depth players.

Simon is very good on both sides of the puck and Big Nick Bjugstad would be good for them at center I would think. Domi was not getting the play time under their HC so word is he's on his way out.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:46 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

It's not so much about getting RID of Johnson's contract as it is in helping Toronto get a young Defensemen under a TERRIFIC contact in Marcus Pettersson and getting a goalie of the future in the young proven Matt Murray who Dubas really likes. And getting a versatile Jared McCann who is very cheap helps replace the forwards they give up. And in the meantime Johnson would play 3rd line minutes and give them some big body strength they need to hammer in front of their own goal and then his contract runs out in two years and they say bye bye.

Mistaked Adam for Jack lol. Point still stands though. Scraps don’t get you an elite defender. Depth guys don’t get you a top 6 center/winger in Domi. Toronto sont trade Nylander. Why would they trade for Murray if they have Andersen unless they know he’s walking in free agency. Even then, they could get Murray for Kapanen and a 2nd instead of trading Nylander. Johansson can then be dealt for a pick to free cpa in that scenario. I wouldn’t say Pettersson’s contract is good tbh he didn’t look that good against Montreal. I’d argue he was worse than JJ on some nights.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:51 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Simon is very good on both sides of the puck and Big Nick Bjugstad would be good for them at center I would think. Domi was not getting the play time under their HC so word is he's on his way out.

So by your logic, we would trade Domi, a center, since we have too many centers, for a worse center, even though Domi is now at 2LW and has looked good. When he was on the 4th line, he still got good ice time, CJ just wanted to roll 4 lines, and Domi was the best fit for the fourth line. Simon is a dime a dozen player. Would rather play Evans at 4C or 4RW and see if Poehling is NHL ready than do this trade. This trade would be horrible for Montreal. Why trade a 50 point guy who has scored 70 points for us when he was playing big minutes for a fourth line winger and an overpaid 3rd liner. Your first or Poulin have to be in a potential Domi trade if you want him, and you would have to add if it’s Poulin (don’t know what PIT would add, they don’t have many good futures).

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:52 a.m.

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Quoting: DriveFor25

Mistaked Adam for Jack lol. Point still stands though. Scraps don’t get you an elite defender. Depth guys don’t get you a top 6 center/winger in Domi. Toronto sont trade Nylander. Why would they trade for Murray if they have Andersen unless they know he’s walking in free agency. Even then, they could get Murray for Kapanen and a 2nd instead of trading Nylander. Johansson can then be dealt for a pick to free cpa in that scenario. I wouldn’t say Pettersson’s contract is good tbh he didn’t look that good against Montreal. I’d argue he was worse than JJ on some nights.

You make some very good points. But the CAP is going to be a problem for teams these next 3 years and teams need to get out in front of it before the well dries up. Pettersson was pretty weak at times and yes he didn't get played a lot after BUT he's still young and he brings what Toronto needs in a second pairing D player. They do need to get rid of their overpaid forwards and they need Strong defense. Some team is going to trade for Matt Murray without a doubt and he can command a lot right now.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:53 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

You make some very good points. But the CAP is going to be a problem for teams these next 3 years and teams need to get out in front of it before the well dries up. Pettersson was pretty weak at times and yes he didn't get played a lot after BUT he's still young and he brings what Toronto needs in a second pairing D player. They do need to get rid of their overpaid forwards and they need Strong defense. Some team is going to trade for Matt Murray without a doubt and he can command a lot right now.

Toronto doesn’t have the money for him and would rather play Holl on the top 4 than acquire him and force themselves to trade another forward. PIT doesn’t need to trade for Murray.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 5:54 a.m.

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Quoting: DriveFor25

So by your logic, we would trade Domi, a center, since we have too many centers, for a worse center, even though Domi is now at 2LW and has looked good. When he was on the 4th line, he still got good ice time, CJ just wanted to roll 4 lines, and Domi was the best fit for the fourth line. Simon is a dime a dozen player. Would rather play Evans at 4C or 4RW and see if Poehling is NHL ready than do this trade. This trade would be horrible for Montreal. Why trade a 50 point guy who has scored 70 points for us when he was playing big minutes for a fourth line winger and an overpaid 3rd liner. Your first or Poulin have to be in a potential Domi trade if you want him, and you would have to add if it’s Poulin (don’t know what PIT would add, they don’t have many good futures).

Good points once again but is Domi as good as people think or talk about or is his name the big thing in your opinion?

Aug. 17, 2020 at 6:39 a.m.

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Bergevin wouldn’t even let Rutherford finish his last sentence before hanging up on an offer that awful.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 6:56 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

Marucs Petterson is a LHD 3rd pair D, a thing the Leafs really don't need
Jack Johnson is kind of the same, but he also has a bad contract
McCann is not really an upgrade over the 3rd liners the Leafs already have
Matt Murray had a save percentage of below .900 on a good Pittsburgh team

Why should the Leafs give up the 15th best goal scorer in the NHL as well as Kasperi Kapanen for a lot of things they don't need?

Ryan Suter is actually performing well and has kind of no injury history. I think he can still play on a high level for 3-4 years and his contract expired after 5. So they have 1 or max 2 years of Suter not being worth what he is payed.

For:
Evan Rodrigues: 4th line guy
Riikola kind of a 7th D
Johnson: AHLer

Clear no

Why should the Habs want Bjukstad?

And why should they want Hörnquist. He is old and expensive. Buffalo can get a Hörnquist type player who makes half of what he does.

Overall, you don't give up anything and get quite a lot, how does that work?

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:05 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

You make some very good points. But the CAP is going to be a problem for teams these next 3 years and teams need to get out in front of it before the well dries up. Pettersson was pretty weak at times and yes he didn't get played a lot after BUT he's still young and he brings what Toronto needs in a second pairing D player. They do need to get rid of their overpaid forwards and they need Strong defense. Some team is going to trade for Matt Murray without a doubt and he can command a lot right now.

Isn't Petterson left handed? TO has no shortage of lefties.

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:09 a.m.

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Quoting: DriveFor25

Toronto doesn’t have the money for him and would rather play Holl on the top 4 than acquire him and force themselves to trade another forward. PIT doesn’t need to trade for Murray.

Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Good points once again but is Domi as good as people think or talk about or is his name the big thing in your opinion?

Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

Marucs Petterson is a LHD 3rd pair D, a thing the Leafs really don't need
Jack Johnson is kind of the same, but he also has a bad contract
McCann is not really an upgrade over the 3rd liners the Leafs already have
Matt Murray had a save percentage of below .900 on a good Pittsburgh team

Why should the Leafs give up the 15th best goal scorer in the NHL as well as Kasperi Kapanen for a lot of things they don't need?

Ryan Suter is actually performing well and has kind of no injury history. I think he can still play on a high level for 3-4 years and his contract expired after 5. So they have 1 or max 2 years of Suter not being worth what he is payed.

For:
Evan Rodrigues: 4th line guy
Riikola kind of a 7th D
Johnson: AHLer

Clear no

Why should the Habs want Bjukstad?

And why should they want Hörnquist. He is old and expensive. Buffalo can get a Hörnquist type player who makes half of what he does.

Overall, you don't give up anything and get quite a lot, how does that work?

Omg are you guys really quoting this clown lmao 😂 he’s clearly a lost cause

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Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:11 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

You make some very good points. But the CAP is going to be a problem for teams these next 3 years and teams need to get out in front of it before the well dries up. Pettersson was pretty weak at times and yes he didn't get played a lot after BUT he's still young and he brings what Toronto needs in a second pairing D player. They do need to get rid of their overpaid forwards and they need Strong defense. Some team is going to trade for Matt Murray without a doubt and he can command a lot right now.

Which teas do you mean? How many teams are actually in need for a starter? Remember, you can only protect one goalie in the expansion.

I think teams who could use a starter are Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, Calgary and San Jose and they can get UFA goalies like Markström, Holtby, Talbot, Greiss who all played better than Murray last season. Maybe try with one of those teams. Like Murray for Jones and an asset.

And if you believe that Nylander is overpayed, you are just wrong

Also, you took the 2019-20 roster, so Domi is already a RFA

Aug. 17, 2020 at 7:21 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

Quoting: jasondomitrovic

It's not so much about getting RID of Johnson's contract as it is in helping Toronto get a young Defensemen under a TERRIFIC contact in Marcus Pettersson and getting a goalie of the future in the young proven Matt Murray who Dubas really likes. And getting a versatile Jared McCann who is very cheap helps replace the forwards they give up. And in the meantime Johnson would play 3rd line minutes and give them some big body strength they need to hammer in front of their own goal and then his contract runs out in two years and they say bye bye.

Nothing about that Toronto trade "helps TO or fills any positional need for TO" all it really does is relieve TO of there RW depth - I do believe there is interest in Matt Murray from TO but that's it just a little interest there is no Need to aquire Matt Murray

Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:39 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

Simon and Bjugstad are at the moment 4th line player and they will not be better than 3rd line player. Probably habs can give you Jordan weal for that package.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 8:55 a.m.

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

no teams says yes

The Wild should!

Aug. 17, 2020 at 9:36 a.m.

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Quoting: jasondomitrovic

Why not?

Toronto needs this positions filled. Minnesota needs to get younger and rid themselves of those two brutal contracts of Suter and Parise. Risto wants out of Buffalo and the Sabres need players like Horny and ZAR that can score in the net front and actually play defense like ZAR who has some of the best numbers in the league Selke wise. And the Montreal deal gets them a BIG tall center that they don't have and a proven player in Simon who played with Crosby and since he's young he will grow with the young Montreal core going forward.

Toronto needs LD? We have Rielly muzzin Dermott Sandin lehtonen and marincin... think we are good there. If you want nylander you will have to give up something that hurts.

Aug. 17, 2020 at 10:47 a.m.

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Yikes, that BUF trade is horrible for PIT

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