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Created by: math731

Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2021

Published: Jan. 24, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Sign Danault to the deal he wants as soon as possible. Keep him for a cup run and promise him he'll get traded this summer to a team where he'll be a top 6 C for years to come.

The trades below are just to illustrate what his value could be this summer. I consider him to be as valuable as Patch when he got trade. So a top prospect would be the ask from MB imo especially considering the extension.

Trades

MTL

Boldy, Matthew [Reserve List]
2021 2nd round pick (MIN)

Additional Details:

Big and skilled top 6 LW to replace Tatar down the road

MIN

Danault at 5,5m X 5y

MTL

Lundkvist, Nils [Reserve List]
2021 4th round pick (OTT)
2022 2nd round pick (NYR)

NYR

MTL

2021 1st round pick (MIN)

Additional Details:

Or a top 12 pick (PIT or MIN). Draft a guy like Ceulemans (RHD) or Eklund (LW).

MIN

I really see Minny as a great landing spot for Danault.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $3,958,333

Buried

Jordan Weal: $325,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$73,366,309	$0	$3,137,500	$8,133,691

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 7
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Toffoli, Tyler $2,125,000$2,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 6	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 6
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Allen, Jake $4,350,000$4,350,000 G UFA - 1
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Romanov, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 2
Mete, Victor $735,000$735,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Poehling, Ryan $925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) ($850,000$850K) C, LW UFA - 1
Fleury, Cale $771,666$771,666 ($0$0$0$0) ($20,000$20K) RD RFA - 1
Perry, Corey $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW UFA - 1
Lindgren, Charlie $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1
Frolík, Michael $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) LW, RW UFA - 1

Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:25 p.m.

wabit

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Why does Danualt sign an extension just to be traded and make the team he's traded to worse in the process? He'll be a UFA and go can anywhere he wants.

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Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:27 p.m.

Wildnochance

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How about not a chance from Minnesota. Minnesota can sign him in free agency @math731

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Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:34 p.m.

RazWild

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Beckman, yes.

Boldy, no.

Would you give up Caufield up for Danault? I don't think so.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:40 p.m.

justaBoss

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MIN declines. A pending UFA does not have this kind of value, and since his re-signing is all but guaranteed it can't be added as a factor to bring in value.

MTL should keep him for their playoff run, and then try to re-sign him in summer. Or let him walk. They shouldn't trade him, too important guy for now.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:49 p.m.

BStinson

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Didn’t he supposedly turn down 6x6? This is a great idea for Montreal but why does Danault just sign where he wants as a UFA while letting them keep their picks/prospects? You can trade his rights but you’re not getting much for it, let alone a top prospect.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 9:58 p.m.

Club_de_Hockey_le_Canadien

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Better idea: Trade Tomas Tatar (extension included) to NYR for Nils Lundkvist+. I'm not sure of Lundkvist's current value, I'm assuming mid 1st value but he fits perfectly into Montreal's future system. I think Tatar may fit the Rangers future system and could give them leverage to trade Buchnevich (or as a replacement if they lose him).

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.

math731

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Zuke is the goat

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Quoting: wabit

Why does Danualt sign an extension just to be traded and make the team he's traded to worse in the process? He'll be a UFA and go can anywhere he wants.

Because otherwise, hes getting traded at the TDL to a lesser team and misses his chance to win a cup this year with the habs.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.

NYR1983

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So NYR sends a great D prospect who is probably NHL ready and some picks for what?? Shows nothing so I assume this is an error

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:19 p.m.

math731

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Zuke is the goat

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Quoting: Wildnochance

How about not a chance from Minnesota. Minnesota can sign him in free agency @math731

So you didnt read the description i see?

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.

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math731

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Zuke is the goat

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Quoting: NYR1983

So NYR sends a great D prospect who is probably NHL ready and some picks for what?? Shows nothing so I assume this is an error

I wrote «read description in the TITLE»...

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:20 p.m.

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wabit

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Quoting: math731

Because otherwise, hes getting traded at the TDL to a lesser team and misses his chance to win a cup this year with the habs.

He gets traded this year and the Habs have a worse chance to win the Cup.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:22 p.m.

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math731

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Quoting: justaBoss

No, I wrote in the description that hed sign first with MTL in order to keep him for the playoffs (and not losing him for nothing this summer or trading him at the TDL). In other words, MB would sign him to a great deal (5,5m for 5 years) next week and then trade him this summer.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:23 p.m.

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math731

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Quoting: wabit

He gets traded this year and the Habs have a worse chance to win the Cup.

Yeah, this is an hypothetical scenario in which he agrees to a contract he likes here before the TDL, so we can keep him for a playoff run and also trade him this summer...

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.

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justaBoss

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Quoting: math731

Seems complicated. Is there a precedent to this?

And regardless the value is off.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.

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math731

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Quoting: RazWild

Beckman, yes.

Boldy, no.

Would you give up Caufield up for Danault? I don't think so.

If we were in need of a great top 6 C? Sure especially with your deep pool of prospect and with the fact that you're already deep on the W.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:29 p.m.

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NYR1983

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Got it, NYR would say no. We would be looking for an elite 2C if we address the C

Jan. 24, 2021 at 10:53 p.m.

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Lenny7

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“Oh mon dieu Monsieur Danault...if you sign wit usss, ve vill trade you wherevers you wants, as long as it is where we decidesss. Dis extremementally good deals for yous!”

Or, he can just go to free agency and sign wherever the frank he wants.

C’mon man.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 11:12 p.m.

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math731

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Quoting: Lenny7

That or hes getting traded at the TDL and miss on a stanley cup with the team of his childhood. MB wouldnt have to tell him... Just sign him then trade him the next summer.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 11:20 p.m.

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Lightman13

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I’m confused by the extra 1st from Minnesota at the end.

Jan. 24, 2021 at 11:25 p.m.

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math731

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Zuke is the goat

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Quoting: Lightman13

I’m confused by the extra 1st from Minnesota at the end.

These 3 trades are just different ideas for a trade involving Danault. So from MIN, it would be either one of the 2 trades for Danault signed

Jan. 25, 2021 at 9:25 a.m.

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Lightman13

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Quoting: math731

These 3 trades are just different ideas for a trade involving Danault. So from MIN, it would be either one of the 2 trades for Danault signed

Ah gotcha.

Jan. 25, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.

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Lenny7

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Quoting: math731

That or hes getting traded at the TDL and miss on a stanley cup with the team of his childhood. MB wouldnt have to tell him... Just sign him then trade him the next summer.

...but he probably gets at least $5.5/year this offseason, to go wherever the heck he wants?

Jan. 25, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.

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Jo_Habs77

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