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After further review

Created by: ZiggyPalffy
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 28, 2021
Published: Feb. 28, 2021
Team: 2020-21 Los Angeles Kings
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. Ekholm, Mattias
  2. Fabbro, Dante
NSH
    2.
    LAK
    1. Rielly, Morgan
    2. Liljegren, Timothy
    TOR
      3.
      LAK
        Which targets would make most sense for the Kings? Ekholm AND Fabbro or Rielly AND Liljegren?
        ANA
          Buyouts
          • Dion Phaneuf: $4,062,500
          Retained Salary Transactions
          • Jeff Carter: $2,636,363 (50%)
          Termination Fees
          • Mike Richards: $700,000
          • Ilya Kovalchuk: $6,250,000
          DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
          2021
          LAK
          LAK
          STL
          LAK
          TOR
          LAK
          CGY
          LAK
          LAK
          2022
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          2023
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          LAK
          ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
          27$81,500,000$83,578,451$0$4,832,500-$2,078,451
          Left WingCenterRight Wing
          LAK
          Iafallo, Alex
          $2,425,000
          LW, C
          UFA - 1
          LAK
          Kopitar, Anze
          $10,000,000
          C
          NTC
          UFA - 4
          LAK
          Brown, Dustin
          $5,875,000
          RW, LW
          NTC
          UFA - 2
          LAK
          Kempe, Adrian
          $2,000,000
          LW, RW
          RFA - 2
          LAK
          Carter, Jeff
          $2,636,364
          C, RW
          UFA - 2
          LAK
          Wagner, Austin
          $1,133,333
          RW, LW
          RFA - 3
          LAK
          Grundström, Carl
          $725,000
          LW
          RFA - 2
          LAK
          Athanasiou, Andreas
          $1,200,000
          LW, RW
          UFA - 1
          LAK
          Moore, Trevor
          $775,000
          RW, LW
          UFA - 1
          LAK
          Lizotte, Blake
          $925,000
          C
          RFA - 1
          LAK
          Luff, Matt
          $700,000
          RW
          RFA - 1
          LAK
          Vilardi, Gabriel
          $894,167
          C
          RFA - 2
          LAK
          Andersson, Lias
          $894,166
          C, LW
          RFA - 1
          LAK
          Amadio, Michael
          $700,000
          C, RW
          RFA - 1
          Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
          LAK
          Määttä, Olli
          $3,333,225
          LD
          UFA - 2
          LAK
          Doughty, Drew
          $11,000,000
          RD
          NMC
          UFA - 7
          LAK
          Quick, Jonathan
          $5,800,000
          G
          UFA - 3
          LAK
          Anderson, Michael
          $925,000
          LD
          RFA - 2
          LAK
          Walker, Sean
          $2,650,000
          RD
          UFA - 4
          LAK
          Petersen, Cal
          $858,333
          G
          UFA - 2
          LAK
          Björnfot, Tobias
          $894,167
          LD
          RFA - 3
          LAK
          Roy, Matt
          $700,000
          RD
          UFA - 1
          LAK
          MacDermid, Kurtis
          $875,000
          LD/RD
          UFA - 2
          NSH
          Ekholm, Mattias
          $3,750,000
          LD
          UFA - 2
          NSH
          Fabbro, Dante
          $925,000
          RD
          RFA - 1
          TOR
          Rielly, Morgan
          $5,000,000
          LD
          NTC
          UFA - 2
          TOR
          Liljegren, Timothy
          $863,333
          RD
          RFA - 2
          ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
          LAK
          Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
          $747,500
          C
          RFA - 2
          LAK
          Frk, Martin
          $725,000
          RW
          UFA - 2
          Taxi Squad
          LAK
          Kupari, Rasmus
          $863,333 ($0)
          C, LW, RW
          RFA - 3
          LAK
          Imama, Bokondji
          $735,000 ($0)
          LW
          RFA - 1
          LAK
          Strand, Austin
          $735,000 ($0)
          RD
          RFA - 1
          LAK
          Rymsha, Drake
          $733,333 ($0)
          C
          UFA - 1
          LAK
          Grosenick, Troy
          $700,000 ($0)
          G
          UFA - 1

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          Feb. 28 at 5:14 p.m.
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          @OldNYIfan @Tryger @KINGS67

          What do you guys think?
          Feb. 28 at 5:15 p.m.
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          @Kings989 @tkecanuck341 @kingsfaninSD

          What do you guys think?
          Feb. 28 at 5:15 p.m.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:19 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          OldNYIfan Tryger KINGS67

          What do you guys think?


          Leafs won’t part with Riley easily, Preds are set to rebuild I think you’ll have the best chance of getting Defensemen without overpaying from Nashville.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:25 p.m.
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          Quoting: tryger
          Leafs won’t part with Riley easily, Preds are set to rebuild I think you’ll have the best chance of getting Defensemen without overpaying from Nashville.


          SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

          I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:30 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

          I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.


          SammyT and 'other Leafs fans' are crazy. They are in a position to be pushing for contention the next few years. They arn't trading their leading TOI player, a defenseman, for futures. It doesn't make any sense for their position.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:32 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

          I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.


          I'm not on the train of trading Rielly, however I think it's an important specification that the referenced SammyT trade takes place in the offseason.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:32 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

          I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.


          If that’s all it takes to get Riley sign me up now. But It’s funny I’m actually higher on Ekholm being Doughtys partner and being a great short term patch and remain competitive, Fabbro could be legit, but we need more LD prospects.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:37 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          OldNYIfan Tryger KINGS67

          What do you guys think?

          I really like the Nashville guys. It would cost a lot to get both though I would assume... I honestly can’t think of where to start if it’s for both. If it’s for fabbro (Doubt he’s available) sure. Walker or Roy would have to go back though.
          Graves from COL wouldn’t be a bad LD choice as well. Might take a little less to get him
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          Feb. 28 at 5:40 p.m.
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          Quoting: tryger
          If that’s all it takes to get Riley sign me up now. But It’s funny I’m actually higher on Ekholm being Doughtys partner and being a great short term patch and remain competitive, Fabbro could be legit, but we need more LD prospects.


          I think the Nashville trade would cost us Turcotte tbh.
          Feb. 28 at 5:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          SammyT and other Leafs fans seem to believe we could get Rielly for Akil Thomas, 2021 or 2022 1st, and a 2nd or 3rd.

          I think the Nashville trade makes most sense for the Kings, but that's just me. At one point, Fabbro was said to have top 2 potential. He's not really working out in Nashville it seems like though and obviously Ekholm is on the block and he'd make a perfect short term partner for Doughty while Anderson and Bjornfot develop with easier minutes.


          If the Leafs are trading Rielly they definitely need a return that helps them now and Thomas plus picks is probably an under-pay anyway. Vilardi plus a 1st seems fair assuming the Kings are re-signing Rielly long-term in the process.
          Feb. 28 at 5:41 p.m.
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          Quoting: KINGS67
          I really like the Nashville guys. It would cost a lot to get both though I would assume... I honestly can’t think of where to start if it’s for both. If it’s for fabbro (Doubt he’s available) sure. Walker or Roy would have to go back though.
          Graves from COL wouldn’t be a bad LD choice as well. Might take a little less to get him


          I offered Turcotte, Thomas, Spence, and a 2021 1st and Nashville fans loved it while everyone else said it was an overpay.
          Feb. 28 at 5:45 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          I offered Turcotte, Thomas, Spence, and a 2021 1st and Nashville fans loved it while everyone else said it was an overpay.

          Yeah, honestly if that was the cost I think I would stand pat personally.

          If it was Thomas, Spence, ‘21 2nd, and ‘22 2nd I’d do it for fabbro. Not sure NSH would though. I have no idea what they’re looking for as well. I’ll make a post and see. Some people on here are unreasonable so who knows.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:46 p.m.
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          Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
          I offered Turcotte, Thomas, Spence, and a 2021 1st and Nashville fans loved it while everyone else said it was an overpay.


          The Muzzin trade a couple seasons ago seems like a good reference point. So a 1st, plus Thomas and Spence seems fair I think?
          Feb. 28 at 5:50 p.m.
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          Quoting: AkiLumme
          The Muzzin trade a couple seasons ago seems like a good reference point. So a 1st, plus Thomas and Spence seems fair I think?


          Plus whatever Fabbro is worth, which isn't Turcotte I wouldn't think.
          Feb. 28 at 5:51 p.m.
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          Quoting: AkiLumme
          The Muzzin trade a couple seasons ago seems like a good reference point. So a 1st, plus Thomas and Spence seems fair I think?


          Thomas, Spence, and a 1st definitely gets Ekholm. Although that pick will be 10-20 most likely so Thomas and the 1st could possibly get it done. Fabbro is where things could get tricky.
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          Feb. 28 at 5:52 p.m.
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          Quoting: AkiLumme
          Plus whatever Fabbro is worth, which isn't Turcotte I wouldn't think.


          I just made another ACGM trying to get Preds fans input so we'll see.
          Feb. 28 at 5:55 p.m.
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          Leafs might be lose Dmen Bogosian and Lehtonen as UFAs and one of Dermot or Holl to Seattle. Leafs aren't in position to trade two Dmen.
          Leafs are in a "win mode", so don't think Reilly is to be traded
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          Feb. 28 at 6:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: Byrr
          SammyT and 'other Leafs fans' are crazy. They are in a position to be pushing for contention the next few years. They arn't trading their leading TOI player, a defenseman, for futures. It doesn't make any sense for their position.


          It is a pure fantasy spread by a few people on twitter - almost all of whom know that it is never going to happen - but simply want it to happen.
          Feb. 28 at 8:25 p.m.
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          I think Ekholm is a bit old to fit into the Kings rebuild. Fabbro would be a nice addition, but I wouldn't give a top tier asset for him.

          If the Nashville trade costs Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, or Kaliyev then I would pass. If they'll take some combination of lesser prospects like Madden, Kupari, Thomas, or Dudas plus a pick, then it might work.
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          Mar. 1 at 7:41 p.m.
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          See that the Kings might be checking out Graves from Colorado with the plethora of D they have right now.
          Mar. 1 at 8:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: kingsfaninSD
          See that the Kings might be checking out Graves from Colorado with the plethora of D they have right now.


          He's not "dynamic"
           
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