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Carey and Weber shouldnt be back next year

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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2021
Published: May 28, 2021
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We desperately need to get younger and faster. As well as change some of the culture

6- Gudbranson
8- Rieder
11- Gallagher (C)
13- Nugent-Hopkins
14- Suzuki
15- Eichel (A)
17- Kovalchuk
20- Collins AHL
21- Hamilton
22- Caufield
24- Olofsson AHL
25- Alt
26- Petry (A)
27- Romanov
28- MacEachern
30- Primeau
32- Raanta
34- Allen
35- Domingue
36- Schueneman AHL
38- Teasdale AHL
39- Haggerty AHL
41- Harvey-Pinard AHL
42- Vejdemo AHL
44- Edmundson
46- Blandisi AHL (A)
47- Belpedio AHL
49- Shaw AHL
53- Martinez
55- Pezzetta AHL
57- Lucchini AHL
59- Fairbrother AHL
60- Belzile AHL (A)
61- Ouellet AHL (C)
64- Leskinen AHL
67- Frolik
70- McNiven AHL
71- Evans
73- Toffoli
77- Anderson
88- Hillis AHL
89- Khisamutdinov AHL
93- Voracek
94- Perry
97- Bracco AHL

LAVAL ROCKET ROSTER (with their numbers in the AHL)

Vejdemo 12 Blandisi 46 Bracco 17
Lucchini 24 Teasdale 14 Belzile 22
Harvey-Pinard 11 Olofsson 18 Shaw 38
Pezzetta 23 Hillis 16 Haggerty 39
Khisamutdinov 25

Ouellet 43 Belpedio 8
Leskinen 28 Schueneman 6
Fairbrother 36 Collins 26

Primeau 31
McNiven 3

(Frolik 20, Rieder 13, Alt 2, Domingue 35)
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$800,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$9,000,000
2$5,000,000
2$3,750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
7$7,000,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
2$925,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kovalchuk, Ilya
1$1,750,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Fleury, Cale [RFA Rights]
  3. Guhle, Kaiden
  4. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi [RFA Rights]
  5. Mysak, Jan
  6. Poehling, Ryan [RFA Rights]
  7. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  8. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
2.
PHI
  1. Weber, Shea
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Getting rid of long-term money
3.
MTL
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    SEA
    1. Brook, Josh
    2. Price, Carey
    3. Struble, Jayden [Reserve List]
    4. Tuch, Luke [Reserve List]
    5. 2022 2nd round pick (MTL)
    6. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
    Additional Details:
    Convince Carey to waive his NTC so he can bring Seattle to glory
    4.
    MTL
    1. 2022 2nd round pick (WPG)
    2. 2023 4th round pick (WPG)
    WPG
    1. Chiarot, Ben
    2. 2021 3rd round pick (CHI)
    5.
    OTT
    1. Byron, Paul
    2. Kulak, Brett
    3. 2021 2nd round pick (TBL)
    4. 2021 3rd round pick (WSH)
    6.
    MTL
    1. MacEachern, Mackenzie
    2. 2022 4th round pick (STL)
    STL
    1. Lehkonen, Artturi [RFA Rights]
    Buyouts
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    2021
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    2022
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the STL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    2023
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$81,500,000$73,312,977$597,561$1,475,000$8,187,023
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
    $8,250,000$8,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $10,000,000$10,000,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
    Kovalchuk, Ilya
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 7
    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW, RW
    UFA
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW, LW
    UFA
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RD
    UFA
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    May 28, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.
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    When are Habs fans gonna get it through their heads that Price and Weber are untradable unless you're adding Caufield or Suzuki
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    May 28, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
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    Unless Suzuki or Caufield are part of any Eichel deal dont bother submitting it! Sabres say no.
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    May 28, 2021 at 2:55 p.m.
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    Philly isn't taking Weber
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    May 28, 2021 at 3:07 p.m.
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    No from Winnipeg. The Jets do not need bottom pairing defensemen, especially LD.
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    May 28, 2021 at 3:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: HikinenNisti
    Philly isn't taking Weber


    I think you and the rest of the sabres fans will be shocked when the eichel return is less than what you expect. He has a $10M contract plus an injury that has yet to be treated and still don’t know what will happen. Don’t think you will get nearly the return you are expecting
    May 28, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.
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    U didnt have to write the numbers and all at the begginingtears of joy
    May 28, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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    price will retire a hab, litterally no reason to want to move him (nor will anybody want to take on that contract) Weber has declined but again not going to pay someone to take him when he can stil lplay top 4 minutes. The eichel deal does not get it done i dont think MTL will want to pay the price for him. Also if they are looking to get younger why would they bring in Voracek?
    May 28, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canadianfan543
    I think you and the rest of the sabres fans will be shocked when the eichel return is less than what you expect. He has a $10M contract plus an injury that has yet to be treated and still don’t know what will happen. Don’t think you will get nearly the return you are expecting


    First Eichel has gone through nearly 3 mos of PT....so don't think it hasn't been addressed just because surgery hasn't been done. He's not the first nor the last that has had a herniated disk in the sports world and not come back to play at normal capacity. Name a pro athlete that has retired due to a herniated disk. To much is made of this bc he wanted to do surgery and the Sabres said no. Wait a week or two when the 3mos are up and see what's going on. I had a herniated disk and with PT and rest it's never bothered me since, now granted I'm not a pro athlete but I golf 5 days a week and I'm not hampered one bit and I'm far far older than Eichel.
    Does Eichel want out, without a doubt yes and that season ending presser was a way of him going about making sure he made it public as was Reinharts...best way to get the Pegulas to trade you is exactly what ROR did as well as Jack and Sam. It's funny how when Adams explained the teams rights according to the CBA that Eichel had no rebuttal, it's just posturing and getting his way...
    Bottom line is he has 5 yrs of term left and if Adams price isn't met no matter what Jack says or does he doesn't have to be moved. I'm sure Adams learned from the haste of the Pegulas when Botterill was ordered to trade ROR and took scrapes instead of paying the 7.5mil bonus and waiting til there was a proper offer on the table.
    The Sabres will get at least 4 good pieces. Look at what Colorado received for Duchene and who would you rather have? Regardless the Sabres will lose the trade because Eichels position as a 1C and his production will not be duplicated by whatever comes back in the trade.
    May 28, 2021 at 3:54 p.m.
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    Hard decline for Buffalo. If Montreal wants eichel. Straight up it would need to include either one of Caufield or Suzuki. And one of either Romanov and or kotkaniemi. And still 2 firsts plus. Altogether should have the value of 4 firsts coming back, and tbh. I don’t think that’s enough.
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    May 28, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    As bad as they need to move those contracts, they can't it's basically impossible considering their age, performance, cap hit, and term.
    May 28, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: BuffaloBillsfan17
    U didnt have to write the numbers and all at the begginingtears of joy
    Sorry it’s something I have a weird obsession with lol. Helps me imagine this being a reality
    May 28, 2021 at 3:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canadianfan543
    I think you and the rest of the sabres fans will be shocked when the eichel return is less than what you expect. He has a $10M contract plus an injury that has yet to be treated and still don’t know what will happen. Don’t think you will get nearly the return you are expecting


    I don't think you sent this to the right person but kinda agree on that Eichel thing.
    May 28, 2021 at 4:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: RoyBoy
    Sorry it’s something I have a weird obsession with lol. Helps me imagine this being a reality


    True, prob one of the most realistic habs offseason (the signings)
    May 28, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: BuffaloBillsfan17
    True, prob one of the most realistic habs offseason (the signings)
    Thanks! Trying for realism when I have my sanity in the right place
    May 28, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
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    Sorry it’s something I have a weird obsession with lol. Helps me imagine this being a reality


    Well, Eichel wears nine.? Is it retired in MTL
    May 28, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: Lenny54
    First Eichel has gone through nearly 3 mos of PT....so don't think it hasn't been addressed just because surgery hasn't been done. He's not the first nor the last that has had a herniated disk in the sports world and not come back to play at normal capacity. Name a pro athlete that has retired due to a herniated disk. To much is made of this bc he wanted to do surgery and the Sabres said no. Wait a week or two when the 3mos are up and see what's going on. I had a herniated disk and with PT and rest it's never bothered me since, now granted I'm not a pro athlete but I golf 5 days a week and I'm not hampered one bit and I'm far far older than Eichel.
    Does Eichel want out, without a doubt yes and that season ending presser was a way of him going about making sure he made it public as was Reinharts...best way to get the Pegulas to trade you is exactly what ROR did as well as Jack and Sam. It's funny how when Adams explained the teams rights according to the CBA that Eichel had no rebuttal, it's just posturing and getting his way...
    Bottom line is he has 5 yrs of term left and if Adams price isn't met no matter what Jack says or does he doesn't have to be moved. I'm sure Adams learned from the haste of the Pegulas when Botterill was ordered to trade ROR and took scrapes instead of paying the 7.5mil bonus and waiting til there was a proper offer on the table.
    The Sabres will get at least 4 good pieces. Look at what Colorado received for Duchene and who would you rather have? Regardless the Sabres will lose the trade because Eichels position as a 1C and his production will not be duplicated by whatever comes back in the trade.


    This is a lot but yes I get it about the injury. Cross that bridge when we get there and see how the healing is going and what not. I do think it could affect it but ya I guess we don’t have that update yet.

    But in terms of trade value there are a lot of variables but like what is the best trade you have seen where you think the team giving up the best player wins? I’m think o’reilly for example that trade could not look worse now. I do think Buffalo will do ok with the return but I think sabres fans need to be a bit more realistic. I don’t think many teams would give up their top prospect in this deal unless if a big cap dump was coming back.

    Personally, I think the sabres have potential to do better with a reinhart deal rather than an eichel deal just because of the contract and hype. There will be more bidders for reinhart because it’s in a realm of possibilities but eichel really only a few teams can get involved

    And yes your last point is kind of how I feel about the whole situation. End of the day Buffalo will be giving up the best player
    May 28, 2021 at 7:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Canadianfan543
    This is a lot but yes I get it about the injury. Cross that bridge when we get there and see how the healing is going and what not. I do think it could affect it but ya I guess we don’t have that update yet.

    But in terms of trade value there are a lot of variables but like what is the best trade you have seen where you think the team giving up the best player wins? I’m think o’reilly for example that trade could not look worse now. I do think Buffalo will do ok with the return but I think sabres fans need to be a bit more realistic. I don’t think many teams would give up their top prospect in this deal unless if a big cap dump was coming back.

    Personally, I think the sabres have potential to do better with a reinhart deal rather than an eichel deal just because of the contract and hype. There will be more bidders for reinhart because it’s in a realm of possibilities but eichel really only a few teams can get involved

    And yes your last point is kind of how I feel about the whole situation. End of the day Buffalo will be giving up the best player


    This is just my opinion but I don't think Eichels injury is as bad as it's made out to be...he has had enough of the losing and rightfully so....he just wants out but again just my opinion. I believe if the Sabres had made the playoffs he would have been in uniform. As for the return who knows...don't think it will be bad and teams like LA and NY like star power so I think you can squeeze a little more out of them. I've said before Vegas is the dark horse that you won't hear about till the end. I still think LA can give the most as their prospect pool is over flowing and it won't hurt their system to much and they can easily take on the cap. Maybe a third team gets involved like in the Duchene trade , so many possibilities as to what's going to happen.
    I agree with you on Reinhart, he upped his value with the season he had and playing center once Granato took over. BTW, don't think it's a coincidence that both Jack and Sam had eye opening exit interviews...probably was planned that way on their parts.
    The thing is if Adams wants to turn this team around he can't just take prospects and draft choices, he needs to get a top 6 forward in each deal. The production lost in Eichel and Reinhart is going to have to be replaced by committee. These two trades will define Adams and Karmonos as to how long they keep their jobs.
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    May 28, 2021 at 8:30 p.m.
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    $7m for RNH? No thanks
    May 28, 2021 at 8:32 p.m.
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    Habs about to defeat Leaves in 7 games ...
    May 28, 2021 at 8:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: speedaj01
    Unless Suzuki or Caufield are part of any Eichel deal dont bother submitting it! Sabres say no.


    I would like to know when Habs fans are going to get it through their heads that the only reason we were not out in 4 straight is cause Price hassaved our bacon waaaaaayyyy too many times. Also other fan bases needs to realize that Price and Weber are not untradable. Difficult yes because it requires the right situation but not untradable. Like if the Oilers were looking to upgrade in goal I guarantee they would ask about Price if his name was out there as being available. Weber also has value as a solid #4-6 Dman for a contender or someone looking for a veteran leader capable of playing big minutes. So don't go spreading the BS that they are untradable cause it's simply not true. Hard to trade for sure but we are not talking about Karl Alzner or Ante Niemi on huge contracts, it's Carey freaking Price and Shae Weber!!!!
    May 29, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Lenny54
    This is just my opinion but I don't think Eichels injury is as bad as it's made out to be...he has had enough of the losing and rightfully so....he just wants out but again just my opinion. I believe if the Sabres had made the playoffs he would have been in uniform. As for the return who knows...don't think it will be bad and teams like LA and NY like star power so I think you can squeeze a little more out of them. I've said before Vegas is the dark horse that you won't hear about till the end. I still think LA can give the most as their prospect pool is over flowing and it won't hurt their system to much and they can easily take on the cap. Maybe a third team gets involved like in the Duchene trade , so many possibilities as to what's going to happen.
    I agree with you on Reinhart, he upped his value with the season he had and playing center once Granato took over. BTW, don't think it's a coincidence that both Jack and Sam had eye opening exit interviews...probably was planned that way on their parts.
    The thing is if Adams wants to turn this team around he can't just take prospects and draft choices, he needs to get a top 6 forward in each deal. The production lost in Eichel and Reinhart is going to have to be replaced by committee. These two trades will define Adams and Karmonos as to how long they keep their jobs.


    For the sake of the league and Buffalo fans I hope they trade them and turn this all around. It’s been long enough and no franchise deserves this. Honestly good luck and hopefully whatever the trades are things get going in buffalo
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