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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 21, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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Milan Lucic 2.0


David Clarkson 3.0
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 5:58 p.m.
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COMMON SIGN AND TRADE LETS GO

GIMMIE THAT 3RD PICK HOLLAND

AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT HYMAN CONTRACT

LUUUUUUUL


What are you referring to as “common”. Because the sign-and-trade that you’re referring to, while speculated about by many fans as a possibility, has never actually happened in the NHL.
Jul. 21, 2021 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
David Clarkson 3.0


Devils legend
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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What are you referring to as “common”. Because the sign-and-trade that you’re referring to, while speculated about by many fans as a possibility, has never actually happened in the NHL.


its basically just a 3rd for his rights and then he signs his 8 year deal it wont be the NBA style where its here take this player and a 1st. So in a sense he gets his money and term and toronto gets something for him which is the NHL equivalent to a sign and trade apparently.

If the NHL ever does a full NBA style sign and trade those 2 teams will make NHL history

Cause in order to get the 8 years his rights have to go to Edmonton. And there were earlier reports that suggested Holland was willing to give a 3rd for the rights so yeah

Probs gonna see 2023 3rd to Toronto for Hymans rights or something along those lines
Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
What are you referring to as “common”. Because the sign-and-trade that you’re referring to, while speculated about by many fans as a possibility, has never actually happened in the NHL.


Also spelled come on wrong lul my auto correct surprisingly didnt fix it
Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.
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Just showing everyone yes Hyman is in Edmonton and Holland does want to give him 8 years.

Lets see how this plays out
Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:21 p.m.
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Supposedly HYMAN COULD BE GETTING 8 YEARS LMAO


I leave the Oilers alone for twenty minutes and they set the franchise back half a decade.

McDavid watch is officially back on.
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I leave the Oilers alone for twenty minutes and they set the franchise back half a decade.

McDavid watch is officially back on.


I mean you realistically got 2 years before Hyman probs becomes Lucic so who knows.

Edmonton could win it all in that time period
Jul. 21, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I mean you realistically got 2 years before Hyman probs becomes Lucic so who knows.

Edmonton could win it all in that time period


What the next two draft lotteries?

Seattle is aiming to be competitive in a piss-weak Pacific right out of the gate. The Canucks are primed to show better than they did last year, and I suspect the Flames will as well. The Kings continue to progress. Edmonton could very realistically miss the playoffs if they can't sort out the blueline or if Smith decides he isn't superhuman anymore.
Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
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Unpopular opinion: Hyman got carried this season by Matthews and Marner
Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Anaheim Ducks-Haydn Fleury
Arizona Coyotes-Tyler Pitlick
Boston Burins-Jeremy Lauzon
Buffalo Sabres-Will Borgen
Calgary Flames-Mark Giordano
Carolina Hurricanes-Morgan Geekie
Chicago Blackhawks-John Quenneville
Colorado Avalanche-Joonas Donskoi
Columbus Blue Jackets-Gavin Bayruether
Dallas Stars-Jamie Oleksiak (should be Blake Comeau)
Detroit Red Wings-Denis Cholowski
Edmonton Oilers-Adam Larsson
Florida Panthers-Chris Driedger
LA Kings-Kurtis MacDermid
Minnesota Wild-Carson Soucy
Montreal Canadiens-Cale Fleury
Nashville Predators-Calle Jarnkrok
NJ Devils-Nathan Bastian
NY Islanders-Jordan Eberle
NY Rangers-Colin Blackwell
Ottawa Senators-Joey Daccord
Philadelphia Flyers-Carsen Twarynski
Pittsburgh Penguins-Brandon Tanev
San Jose Sharks-Alex True
St. Louis Blues-Vince Dunn
Tampa Bay Lightning-Yanni Gourde
Toronto Maple Leafs-Jared McCann
Vancouver Canucks-Kole Lind
Washington Capitals-Vitek Vanecek
Winnipeg Jets-Mason Appleton

These are my final predictions for the expansion draft. The NHL did a GREAT job of not leaking any of the picks
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Anaheim Ducks-Haydn Fleury
Arizona Coyotes-Tyler Pitlick
Boston Burins-Jeremy Lauzon
Buffalo Sabres-Will Borgen
Calgary Flames-Mark Giordano
Carolina Hurricanes-Morgan Geekie
Chicago Blackhawks-John Quenneville
Colorado Avalanche-Joonas Donskoi
Columbus Blue Jackets-Gavin Bayruether
Dallas Stars-Jamie Oleksiak (should be Blake Comeau)
Detroit Red Wings-Denis Cholowski
Edmonton Oilers-Adam Larsson
Florida Panthers-Chris Driedger
LA Kings-Kurtis MacDermid
Minnesota Wild-Carson Soucy
Montreal Canadiens-Cale Fleury
Nashville Predators-Calle Jarnkrok
NJ Devils-Nathan Bastian
NY Islanders-Jordan Eberle
NY Rangers-Colin Blackwell
Ottawa Senators-Joey Daccord
Philadelphia Flyers-Carsen Twarynski
Pittsburgh Penguins-Brandon Tanev
San Jose Sharks-Alex True
St. Louis Blues-Vince Dunn
Tampa Bay Lightning-Yanni Gourde
Toronto Maple Leafs-Jared McCann
Vancouver Canucks-Kole Lind
Washington Capitals-Vitek Vanecek
Winnipeg Jets-Mason Appleton

These are my final predictions for the expansion draft. The NHL did a GREAT job of not leaking any of the picks


Denis Cholowksi tried to help
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:04 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
Confirmed that the NHL will be releasing the full 82 game schedule tomorrow (Thursday) for every team at 6 PM. Starts in October.
They were working on 2 versions of the schedule-one that includes a break for the Winter Olympics and one that doesn't, as they're still fighting about it with the NHLPA (players weren't allowed to go in 2018), so stay tuned.
Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Unpopular opinion: Hyman got carried this season by Matthews and Marner


That was every season in general lul

Yr 1: No idea but meh results
Yr 2-3: Matthews and Nylander
Yr 4: Tavares and Marner
Yr 5-6: Matthews and Marner

In general Hyman has a good work ethic, and is a good 2way player but I don't think he gets you 20 goals away from superstars
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:17 p.m.
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Im honestly starting to question the leaked picks. As I dont think they met the requirements for contracts and they got way to many Dman rn


Im wondering if maybe some UFA selections are not the real selections (like Oleksiak contract details arent confirmed). Maybe they take a contract player from DAL and then sign Oleksiak later during free agency. They could do the same with Driedger in FLA. I heard rumours about Vatrano being in a side deal, but maybe Vatrano is the official pick and Driedger will just be signed officially when UFA opens? Those 2 changes would give them 20 picks under contract

We'll see shortly
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.
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Fun fact: There are only 6 players that Vegas selected that are still on the team (side deals do not count)

William Carrier
William Karlsson
Tomas Nosek
Jonathan Marchessault
Brayden McNabb
Marc-Andre Fleury
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: moli92
Im wondering if maybe some UFA selections are not the real selections (like Oleksiak contract details arent confirmed). Maybe they take a contract player from DAL and then sign Oleksiak later during free agency. They could do the same with Driedger in FLA. I heard rumours about Vatrano being in a side deal, but maybe Vatrano is the official pick and Driedger will just be signed officially when UFA opens? Those 2 changes would give them 20 picks under contract

We'll see shortly


Could be

I'm still not buying some of the actual leaks though cause something similar happened with vegas than we got the expansion and I think only 10% of the leaked picks happened

But if all were leaked man this could be very bad for ratings meaning more money loss for the NHL and Bettman wont be happy with reporters lul
Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:21 p.m.
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Lol tears of joy
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:22 p.m.
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Lol, Hyman to Edm, 8 years, Holland really trying to surpass Chiarelli as bad Oilers GM

Some leaks have to be wrong, so like Vegas
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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Lol, Hyman to Edm, 8 years, Holland really trying to surpass Chiarelli as bad Oilers GM

Some leaks have to be wrong, so like Vegas


Good news for Toronto as they get something out of it so Dubas at least does not lose Hyman for free. Sad to see him go but 8yrs way to much term even if the hit is only 5mill
Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
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Im wondering if maybe some UFA selections are not the real selections (like Oleksiak contract details arent confirmed). Maybe they take a contract player from DAL and then sign Oleksiak later during free agency. They could do the same with Driedger in FLA. I heard rumours about Vatrano being in a side deal, but maybe Vatrano is the official pick and Driedger will just be signed officially when UFA opens? Those 2 changes would give them 20 picks under contract

We'll see shortly


Comeau 👀.
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.
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Today Seravalli leaked 18 selections, a potential Hall 4x6 extension and Hyman to Edmonton completely ruining the rest of the off season.

Good job, Frank
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Fun fact: There are only 6 players that Vegas selected that are still on the team (side deals do not count)

William Carrier
William Karlsson
Tomas Nosek
Jonathan Marchessault
Brayden McNabb
Marc-Andre Fleury


Pretty darn good draft, and that's not counting the Shea Theodore trade
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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guys I think its time for a man hunt





I call Serevalli
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Jul. 21, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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GO FLAMES GO
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Stupid leaks. I just got in an argument because of them
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