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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:46 p.m.
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This might be the first trade I've seen where both sides really can both be called winners. Avs get a goalie every bit as good as Grubauer, if not better, and the Yotes get yet ANOTHER draft pick (2022 1st rounder) and a good prospect in Timmins.
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:47 p.m.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA The Devils twitter account manager deserves a raise
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
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Remember when new Blackhawks signing Jake McCabe did this to Patrik Laine? Wow.
Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:50 p.m.
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Oof. Kuemper is good but thats a lot to give up for just 1 year of him. Havent heard anything about retention either
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:51 p.m.
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Oof. Kuemper is good but thats a lot to give up for just 1 year of him. Havent heard anything about retention either


Well, the Avs really had no choice if they wanted to compete

This is from ProHockeyRumors.com, perfectly put:

The Avalanche can likely afford a price like that, given how many good young defensemen they already have in the organization, but it’s still a lot to pay for a goaltender under contract for just one season. Kuemper will be an unrestricted free agent after earning $4.5MM in 2021-22. There’s obviously a chance he will sign an extension with Colorado, but until he does, the Avalanche are pushing a few important chips to the middle after losing the bidding on Grubauer. During today’s TSN coverage of the trade deadline, Pierre LeBrun explained that Frederik Andersen was Colorado’s backup plan if they couldn’t re-sign Grubauer, but the former Toronto Maple Leafs netminder couldn’t wait and ended up with the Carolina Hurricanes when a strong offer was tabled.

There was really no other option for the Avalanche after the goalie carousel had stopped spinning today. The team needed a strong, experienced option that could potentially help them contend for the Stanley Cup, and those weren’t readily available on free agency or the trade market. Kuemper was the obvious choice, given his strong play over the last few years and overall NHL resume.

In 242 appearances, the 31-year-old netminder has posted a .917 save percentage, including a .922 in his three years with Arizona. He finished fifth and seventh in Vezina voting the two years previous to this season, and recently led Team Canada to a gold medal at the IIHF World Championship.
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:56 p.m.
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Predictions?
Jul. 28, 2021 at 7:59 p.m.
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Predictions?


Pickard re-signed with the Red Wings already. Dubnyk or Korpisalo would be good for the Oilers, if they have the cap room.
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:01 p.m.
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leafs broke the jfresh model
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:04 p.m.
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leafs broke the jfresh model

Thank you Michael Bunting! Just imagine how they’d look on this model if they’d held onto McCann lol
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:05 p.m.
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Predictions?

Georgiev to Buffalo in an Eichel trade, otherwise Dubnyk or maybe getting paid to take on Koskinen. UPL is not ready to play 82 NHL games lmao
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:08 p.m.
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You seem very high on the guy


He had a WINNING record on the Sabres, he wins games.
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:29 p.m.
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Oof. Kuemper is good but thats a lot to give up for just 1 year of him. Havent heard anything about retention either


He better be coming with an extension cause thats steep
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:31 p.m.
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leafs broke the jfresh model


We did it people we broke him lul
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:33 p.m.
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Thank you Michael Bunting! Just imagine how they’d look on this model if they’d held onto McCann lol


Could technically still happen. If the deal is right Dubas could re-acquire McCann but would it be worth it (maybe)

Still waiting as I dont think hes done yet.
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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My guess is either Tatar or Dubas trades for Rakell
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:47 p.m.
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Fun fact: The Coyotes pick seven times in the first two rounds alone of the 2022 draft. That's more than double the number of picks than the Leafs had in this year's ENTIRE draft (three).
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Engvall for Lafrienere
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:50 p.m.
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Fun fact: The Coyotes pick seven times in the first two rounds alone of the 2022 draft. That's more than double the number of picks than the Leafs had in this year's ENTIRE draft (three).


Ironically Leafs never hold multiple 1sts as often they trade one or both of them

They seem to be allergic to drafting twice in round 1

Like we could have had in 2016 Matthews and Steel, 2015 Marner and Konecney, and so on
Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:52 p.m.
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Engvall for Lafrienere


Only works if Engvall goes god mode scores 20 goals and has 50 points and Laf continues to struggle or if Chirelli is gm of the rangers wink
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 8:57 p.m.
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Another day, and still Jack Eichel remains a Sabre. I still think he ends up on the Rangers (Kings are out due to cap space, probably the same for the Flames, and reports say the Wild are out too), but according to Bob McKenzie it remains "dead quiet" in talks with all teams.
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 9:10 p.m.
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I honestly think the leafs greatest add was Kurtis Gabriel

Toronto Maple Leafs


How much do you hate Mrazek and Bunting, and what did they do to deserve this?
Jul. 28, 2021 at 9:18 p.m.
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How much do you hate Mrazek and Bunting, and what did they do to deserve this?


Agreed

Tomorrow every leaf fan will say either Tatar or Saad or some guy we trade for who knows

For me as of now my fav was Mrazek.

Gabriel honestly is honestly our 2021 Sabourin
Jul. 28, 2021 at 9:20 p.m.
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This combined with that article about less players wanting to come to Canada concerns me and applies to all Canadian teams.

NHL needs to figure out how to balance the system cause reality is despite Canadian taxes doing so much good for things such as healthcare. They can be a big deterrent in people wanting to come to any Canadian team in the coming years.

Not a concern now but eventually could get there
Jul. 28, 2021 at 9:29 p.m.
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This combined with that article about less players wanting to come to Canada concerns me and applies to all Canadian teams.

NHL needs to figure out how to balance the system cause reality is despite Canadian taxes doing so much good for things such as healthcare. They can be a big deterrent in people wanting to come to any Canadian team in the coming years.

Not a concern now but eventually could get there


Watch this escalate to NHL seperating into two leagues - US and Canadian ones, with the SC winner being decided between the top team in Canada and top team in US.

That would probably require more small market NHL teams migrating to Canada, starting from ARI, CAR, FLA and maybe BUF too.
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Jul. 28, 2021 at 9:31 p.m.
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Watch this escalate to NHL seperating into two leagues - US and Canadian ones, with the SC winner being decided between the top team in Canada and top team in US.

That would probably require more small market NHL teams migrating to Canada, starting from ARI, CAR, FLA and maybe BUF too.


Add CBJ to that last list.
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