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2021 offseason talks thread

Jul. 19, 2021 at 10:05 p.m.
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Interesting


Barzal and a 1st for Tarasenko
Jul. 19, 2021 at 10:09 p.m.
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Barzal and a 1st for Tarasenko


Don't tempt the Hockey gods

They may make this actually happen
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Jul. 19, 2021 at 10:26 p.m.
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Rangers are a very soft team. They need some grit and fortitude in their lineup a lot more than they need more offensive firepower. Goodrow could be an excellent fit for them, but a long term contract will almost certainly go bad halfway through. Rangers will be stuck with another buyout. Has any team been forced to buy out more contracts over the last 5 years than the NYR?
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Jul. 19, 2021 at 10:41 p.m.
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Rangers are a very soft team. They need some grit and fortitude in their lineup a lot more than they need more offensive firepower. Goodrow could be an excellent fit for them, but a long term contract will almost certainly go bad halfway through. Rangers will be stuck with another buyout. Has any team been forced to buy out more contracts over the last 5 years than the NYR?


I mean they traded Lemieux then a week later said they need grit on this team. So how long before they go yeah that Goodrow contract sucks anyone want him
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Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:04 p.m.
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How does Seattle's UFA window work, they're in on Driedger? Do they still get a pick from Florida?
Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:05 p.m.
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How does Seattle's UFA window work, they're in on Driedger? Do they still get a pick from Florida?


They have 48h to negotiate with unprotected UFAs and, if they agree to the contract, it counts as the selection.
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Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:09 p.m.
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They have 48h to negotiate with unprotected UFAs and, if they agree to the contract, it counts as the selection.


Yep, and reports are Francis is talking with 3 UFA's right now Hyman, Dreidger, and Oleksiak with a contract already waiting for Dreidger (Jarry deal basically). This is gonna be interesting expansion draft.
Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:27 p.m.
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Here is an EXPANSION TEAM created by CapFriendly twitter:

Gourde-Compher-Tarasenko (Swap Gourde to C)
Jarnkrok-McCann-Namestnikov (Put Donato on 1LW maybe, with Byron down and Compher 3LW)
Byron-Lizotte-Appleton
Donato-Tierney-Pitlick

Giordano-Zadorov
Dillon-Fleury
Bean-Lauzon

Driedger
Kahkonen

Scratches:
Stenlund
Blackwell
Butcher

Quite good, some misses
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Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:31 p.m.
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Edited Jul. 19, 2021 at 11:42 p.m.
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Here is an EXPANSION TEAM created by CapFriendly twitter:
seattle_kraken.svg
Gourde-Compher-Tarasenko
Jarnkrok-McCann-Namestnikov
Byron-Lizotte-Appleton
Donato-Tierney-Pitlick

Giordano-Zadorov
Dillon-Fleury
Bean-Lauzon

Driedger
Kahkonen

Scratches:
Stenlund
Blackwell
Butcher

Quite good


That team is on a mission to get Shane Wright that's for sure.

So many missed opportunities

Also surprised they have McCann at center and Gourde on wing as Florida and Pittsburgh can tell yah McCann is best suited for being a wing while Gourde plays an incredible 3c role.

Like as soon as I saw Byron I went "this aint it chief" especially when you consider a 22 year old RD prospect in Fleury is sitting right there for the taking
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 6:06 a.m.
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That team is on a mission to get Shane Wright that's for sure.

So many missed opportunities

Also surprised they have McCann at center and Gourde on wing as Florida and Pittsburgh can tell yah McCann is best suited for being a wing while Gourde plays an incredible 3c role.

Like as soon as I saw Byron I went "this aint it chief" especially when you consider a 22 year old RD prospect in Fleury is sitting right there for the taking


Fleury isn’t a good prospect. His ceiling is probably lower than how good of a player Byron is right now. The only reason Seattle would take Cale is if they were also taking Haydn from Anaheim.
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 6:30 a.m.
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Its getting to that point where Detroit is taking over next to Pittsburgh. God some Pittsburgh fans think Hextall and Burke will lead them to the promise land. I just cannot see it as Burke's track record so far has been awful. Only good thing he did was the Sedins

That's why I try to stay off the ACGM part unless I see someone I know post from time to time

Forums is more relaxing and less stressful


Yeah these threads are so much better then ACGM and they cover more discussion, unless I have a team idea ( might do a couple offseason ACGM ), or have to do my team page for the GM Game, I try to stay away from ACGM
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 6:32 a.m.
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That team is on a mission to get Shane Wright that's for sure.

So many missed opportunities

Also surprised they have McCann at center and Gourde on wing as Florida and Pittsburgh can tell yah McCann is best suited for being a wing while Gourde plays an incredible 3c role.

Like as soon as I saw Byron I went "this aint it chief" especially when you consider a 22 year old RD prospect in Fleury is sitting right there for the taking


I feel like Seattle takes a shot at Drouin/Price before going for a Byron/Kulak/Fleury
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 8:10 a.m.
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Smart move by Mailloux, i feel like this shows some maturity after he lost it
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 8:55 a.m.
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Smart move by Mailloux, i feel like this shows some maturity after he lost it


Definitely think this seems to be a self preservation move as there seems to be no apology or what not or regret.

Still a right step
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 9:07 a.m.
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Eichel is going to get traded by Friday
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 9:10 a.m.
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Eichel is going to get traded by Friday


If Buffalo lowers their price just a little bit (so Anahiem doesn’t have to include Zegras) he’ll be off to the Ducks for sure. Because I doubt anyone could match Anaheim’s package including the 3rd overall pick after the 1st round is over.
Jul. 20, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.
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Eichel is going to get traded by Friday


So Kulak, Drouin, Kk and 2021 1st, good to know
Jul. 20, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
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Definitely think this seems to be a self preservation move as there seems to be no apology or what not or regret.

Still a right step


100%. As you said, no apology or anything, and let's be real, what is he really losing here? A ton of teams have already added him to their do not draft list and more probably will. There was a good chance he wouldn't have gotten selected anyway, and certainly not where he expected to be. And it's not like he was going to be stepping right into the show next year; he'd be going back to London regardless. This really has no downside for him. PR move.
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.
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Devils shopping elite Norris winner defensemen PK Subban

Terrible idea
Jul. 20, 2021 at 10:39 a.m.
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Devils shopping elite Norris winner defensemen PK Subban

Terrible idea


Yeah I don’t think getting a third or less or some sort of cap exchange for him is as valuable as what he likely brings into the locker room plus ice. At this point (assuming there’s no internal issues which I doubt there is any) - PK is a benefit to the young core in New Jersey. Plus he helps the business side.
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 10:44 a.m.
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Here’s a idea I’ve been toying around in my head with.

Seattle goes to Tampa and offers a life line:

Johnson (3 years at 5) - negative/ depreciating asset
Palat (1 year at 5.3) - positive asset/ neutral asset
2022 First
Prospect idk? Something.

In Exchange for

Some middle 6 expansion selection (nothing super valuable but someone along the lines of Donato or a Kerfoot type thing)

I think Seattle gets a 3rd line Center who’s a reasonable buyout candidate next year if they need money. And Palat who brings a winning mentality along with Johnson but Palat is actually a serviceable top 6 winger. Tampa frees nearly 10 mil or gains like 8 with a roster guy coming back.

I do think this is something Tampa should bite the bullet on. This is obviously only my idea no one has ever thought of this trust me.

But I do think Seattle has a lot of side deals that should happen, I hope they make things interesting.
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.
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Who do you guys think the Buffalo pick will be for Seattle? Leaning Girgensons over here
Jul. 20, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.
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Yeah I don’t think getting a third or less or some sort of cap exchange for him is as valuable as what he likely brings into the locker room plus ice. At this point (assuming there’s no internal issues which I doubt there is any) - PK is a benefit to the young core in New Jersey. Plus he helps the business side.


Plus, we need him to reach the cap floor
Our best bet is to wait till the deadline and then trade him 50% retained
Jul. 20, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.
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Who do you guys think the Buffalo pick will be for Seattle? Leaning Girgensons over here


I'd say Borgen. Girgensons hasn't played all year.
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Jul. 20, 2021 at 11:17 a.m.
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What is the most you’d give Landeskog on a 7 year deal?

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