Eichel to WPG

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Created by: tsyls

Team: 2021-22 Winnipeg Jets

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 12, 2021

Published: Aug. 12, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Saw this trade posted in another thread that was liked by Jets fans, and then again in another thread where people thought the Jets would be dumb to make this move. I think the Jets win this trade for sure, but that’s just me. Maybe I’m just too high on Eichel.

Also I know Buffalo is looking for mainly futures, but I was just expanding on a trade I had seen from Winnipeg’s perspective.

I added beaulieu to Buffalo to help with cap, also had to move DeMelo to sort out the cap. Ideally I’d like a different backup, but with cap restrictions there aren’t many options.

Trades

WPG

2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

DeMelo, Dylan

WPG

Eichel, Jack
Thompson, Tage
2023 4th round pick (BUF)

BUF

Beaulieu, Nathan
Berdin, Mikhail
Copp, Andrew [RFA Rights]
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
Lundmark, Simon
2022 1st round pick (WPG)
2023 3rd round pick (WPG)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,404,646	$145,122	$907,500	$95,354

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 4	Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 5
Connor, Kyle $7,142,857$7,142,857 LW UFA - 5	Stastny, Paul $3,750,000$3,750,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 3
Harkins, Jansen $725,000$725,000 LW UFA - 1	Lowry, Adam $3,250,000$3,250,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Vesalainen, Kristian $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW RFA - 1
Nash, Riley $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Gustafsson, David $817,500$817,500 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 1	Thompson, Tage $1,400,000$1,400,000 C UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Morrissey, Joshua $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD UFA - 7	Schmidt, Nate $5,950,000$5,950,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 3
Dillon, Brenden $3,900,000$3,900,000 LD UFA - 3		Comrie, Eric $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Stanley, Logan $900,000$900,000 LD RFA - 2	Pionk, Neal $5,875,000$5,875,000 RD UFA - 4
	Heinola, Ville $863,333$863,333 LD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Toninato, Dominic $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2		Little, Bryan $5,291,667$5,291,667 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Niku, Sami $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.

CJets

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No way Pionk isn’t on the first defence pairing

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.

tsyls

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Quoting: CJets

No way Pionk isn’t on the first defence pairing

Yeah it’s highly likely, maybe Dillon and pionk become the first pair. With Morrissey slipping a bit over the past year or two, I could see them transitioning to Dillon and Pionk as the first pair.

Schmidt talked about how he had some conversations about playing with Morrissey, or playing with pionk. So with that in mind the top 4 will either be

Dillon - Pionk
Morrissey - Schmidt

Or

Dillon - Morrissey
Schmidt - Pionk

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:37 p.m.

jnowariak

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So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.

tsyls

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Quoting: jnowariak

So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?

I mean, Berdin has starter potential IMO, and Copp can slot into buffalos top 6. Just berdin is stuck behind hellebuyck in Winnipeg, and Copp likely has priced himself out of Winnipeg.

Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:42 p.m.

Windjammer

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For me that's just way too much to give up for an expensive player, with an injury that raises concerns for the rest of his career and hasn't proven yet to be worth his contact. The Jets are better off with Dubois and the cap space, at least for me.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.

jnowariak

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Quoting: tsyls

I mean, Berdin has starter potential IMO, and Copp can slot into buffalos top 6. Just berdin is stuck behind hellebuyck in Winnipeg, and Copp likely has priced himself out of Winnipeg.

Copp would take his arb award and walk to UFA and I here you about Berlin, but I really don’t think a goalie prospect does much. If Copp needs to go for cap reasons, sure. But it’s still not that enticing as a 3rd party.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:44 p.m.

Anus_McLeod

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Considering what went down with Columbus, I don't think PLD can be the main piece for Buffalo. Maybe get another team (one that would be interested in landing PLD) involved. Bruins maybe? Avs?

Idk, just throwing thoughts out.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:45 p.m.

tsyls

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Quoting: Anus_McLeod

You’re totally right I was just seeing what this package looked like from a Jets perspective.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.

tsyls

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Quoting: jnowariak

Apparently Copp just wants to play in a US market close to home. Buffalo fits the bill, he wants top 6 time too, which he’ll get in Buffalo. 100% think he’d actually sign long term there.

But I do get what you’re saying, and it’s likely berdin doesn’t do much for Buffalo.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:46 p.m.

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Riley816

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Quoting: jnowariak

So the trade is Dubois and a 1st for Eichel?

Copp gets a one year deal in arbitration. Beaulieu has one year and is a LHD. Berdin would be UPL back up next year. Landmark is signed and a RHD. Not horrible but not a piece Sabres need. A decent Winnipeg team makes the playoffs and the 1st is an okay asset.

The good news is, according to this lineup, the Sabres get Thompson back on waivers.

Not what the Sabres are really looking for. Give in to Eichel. Let him have his surgery. Let him play healthy and trade him later...

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Windjammer

Yeah no I get that perspective as well. Dubois and the cap space might be better, along with keeping berdin, lundmark and the picks. I think the injury is overblown. The Artificial Disk Replacement seems to be very very effective and a short recovery period too. So I’m not overly concerned about the injury. When Eichel is healthy he’s a top 10 C IMO. So I’m looking at this in terms of having 2 top 15 centres on the team. IMO this pushes the Jets over the hump but I also get the concern with cap.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:50 p.m.

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Quoting: Riley816

Copp wants to be in a US market close to home where he can play in the top 6. Buffalo seems to fit that bill, but I also do understand your other points. Which in my description I eluded to by saying Buffalo likely wants an all futures package.

Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:54 p.m.

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Sabresforlife

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Buffalo declines, Tage Thompson is untouchable.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:57 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: tsyls

I can understand that, my worry is always what if it doesn't work. Fun to talk about though.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 1:59 p.m.

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Pretty sure Columbus isn’t giving up a 2nd for DeMelo… they a as RW rebuilding, adding DeMelo for like a 4th sure, but not a 2nd.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 2:21 p.m.

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jnowariak

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Quoting: tsyls

Dubois and a 1st is a great baseline for an Eichel deal IMO, aside from Dubois not being locked up long term. I think the edges need to be rounded out though.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Ajp_18

Pretty sure Columbus isn’t giving up a 2nd for DeMelo… they a as RW rebuilding, adding DeMelo for like a 4th sure, but not a 2nd.

Yeah, I more so just used CBJ as an example, could be any team needing 2nd pairing RD help.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 2:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can understand that, my worry is always what if it doesn't work. Fun to talk about though.

Yes of course there is always that risk, which is why it’s fun.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 2:48 p.m.

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I for one would love to see karma ship PLD to Buffalo.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 4:53 p.m.

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I wouldn’t touch PLD with a 50 ft pole after his stunt in CBJ.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 10:46 p.m.

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I would love to see it.
It would be a nice kick in the crotch to Dubois to get traded to Buffalo for Eichel.

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Aug. 12, 2021 at 10:50 p.m.

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Quoting: tsyls

I'd prefer your Dillon-Pionk combination as the first pairing and Morrissey - Schmidt on the second. The second combination of playing Morrissey and Schmidt on their non-preferred sides feels like an accident waiting to happen.

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