If Brady Tkachuk refuses to sign an extension before 19h30 ET on October 12th

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Created by: sensonfire

Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 14, 2021

Published: Sep. 14, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

This is what is said about the Cap Floor on Page 260 of the current CBA:

"No Club shall, after commencement of the regular season, be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary that falls below the Lower Limit for that League Year."

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

7:30 PM ET on October 12th is when the NHL Regular Season commences.

That's the start time of the 1st game of the NHL regular season, which is between Pittsburgh and Tampa.

We are still well short of the cap floor.

If Brady Tkachuk hasn't signed by October 10th or October 11th, we'll need to do something quick.

So, I would propose a 1-year offer-sheet for Kailer Yamamoto of the Edmonton Oilers at slightly over 4.1 million, the maximum where the draft pick compensation is a 2nd round pick.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer		1	$4,110,731

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Yamamoto, Kailer	$4,110,731	2022 2nd round pick

Trades

OTT

If either of these two things happen:

1. Brady Tkachuk is going to sign with us before October 12th ...

OR

2. We are able to make a trade where Ottawa has a net gain of at least 3.2 million to its cap hit before October 12th ...

then forget this idea even happened.

EDM

If you have any better ideas than an offer-sheet for Yamamoto in case Brady refuses to sign an extension, please let me know in the comments.

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$59,939,147	$0	$4,522,500	$21,560,853

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Norris, Joshua $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) C UFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 2	Yamamoto, Kailer $4,110,731$4,110,731 RW RFA - 1
Formenton, Alex $747,500$747,500 ($107,500$108K) LW RFA - 1	White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 4	Sokolov, Egor $818,333$818,333 ($15,000$15K) LW RFA - 2
Paul, Nicholas $749,250$749,250 C, LW UFA - 1	Tierney, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 7	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $900,000$900,000 G UFA - 1
	Del Zotto, Michael $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Brown, Joshua $1,200,000$1,200,000 RD UFA - 1
Mete, Victor $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Järventie, Roby $925,000$925,000 LW RFA - 4

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Stützle, T.		Norris, J.		Batherson, D.
	Sokolov, E.		Chabot, T.

Power Play 2
Formenton, A.		Pinto, S.		Yamamoto, K.
	Brännström, E.		White, C.

Penalty Kill 1
	Paul, N.	Brown, C.
	Zaitsev, N.	Zub, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Tierney, C.	Watson, A.
	Holden, N.	Del Zotto, M.

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:12 p.m.

csick

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#TradeBrady

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.

ricochetii

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Sign Logan Brown for $5M for 1 year.

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:16 p.m.

palhal

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Edited Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:22 p.m.

It's an easy solution, Shirley there are some UFAs out there or some mid cap players teams would "dump" on Ottawa for cap purposes.
But the most logical solution for the Sens if let's say the Sens are 6m short at the beginning of the season. Dorion signs Eugene Melnyk for 7.5m, Melnyk is waived to the AHL for cap hit of over 6m.

Certainly it is not Tkachuk's best interest to sit out this year or any the four years he is under Sens NHL "control"

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.

CD282

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And if Kailer refuses to sign that offer or Edmonton matches? There's lots hat can go wrong with this plan.

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:24 p.m.

kogger

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Quoting: csick

#TradeBrady

a "Trady" if you will

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:26 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: CD282

And if Kailer refuses to sign that offer or Edmonton matches? There's lots hat can go wrong with this plan.

1. The Oilers would be over the cap if they matched.

2. This is at least 1.5 million more than what he's worth.

Make it 2 years on the offer-sheet if he also refuses to sign.

3. I also asked if there are better ideas than offer-sheeting Yamamoto in the event Brady refuses to sign by October 12th.

You didn't suggest any

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:29 p.m.

ricochetii

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Quoting: kogger

a "Trady" if you will

Trady Bratchuk

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:30 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: palhal

1. The UFAs out there have no upside whatsoever and are not wanted by any NHL club as of right now.

2. Asking a team to dump someone on us would involve a cost for that other team, probably draft pick(s), to which they might refuse to pay.

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: ricochetii

Trady Bratchuk

Clever hahah. He is a brat

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.

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Trade a 1st round pick for Skinner or Okposo??.. 😃

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.

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Quoting: ricochetii

Sign Logan Brown for $5M for 1 year.

Wouldn't be a bad idea, it's pretty much the equivalent of signing a cap whale

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Trade a 1st round pick for Skinner or Okposo??.. 😃

Then Buffalo would be stuck under the cap floor on October 12th

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

Then Buffalo would be stuck under the cap floor on October 12th

Then they offer sheet Brady Tkachuk which appeals to Eichel who comes back from surgery to form two/thirds of the ugliest line in the league??.. 😂

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:46 p.m.

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mm1010

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Quoting: CD282

And if Kailer refuses to sign that offer or Edmonton matches? There's lots hat can go wrong with this plan.

Quoting: sensonfire

Oilers would be able to match it is a bind and they would have to go with a 21 man roster. I can show you if you need....

If you looking to add cap we have mikko im sure the oilers would love to dump some where!!!

IF you are going the offer sheet route why not go for petterson with a 10.2 mill AAV offer sheet... Better player getyour cap floor. Van only has 13 millsion to sign him and hughes....
if they match which they would they only have 3 mill left for hughes in which case people need to get moved with some decent sized contracts.

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:48 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Then they offer sheet Brady Tkachuk which appeals to Eichel who comes back from surgery to form two/thirds of the ugliest line in the league??.. 😂

That would cost you at least 10 million a year and 4 unprotected 1st round picks.

But at least you made the floor

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Wouldn't be a bad idea, it's pretty much the equivalent of signing a cap whale

I mean they’d be better off signing Karl Alzner at 1 year for $5 million. That makes Brown easier to trade, and whatever team he ends up on doesn’t have to deal with his QO.

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:49 p.m.

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Why don’t you take a cap dump from the oilers instead.😁

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:52 p.m.

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

I mean they’d be better off signing Karl Alzner at 1 year for $5 million. That makes Brown easier to trade, and whatever team he ends up on doesn’t have to deal with his QO.

Yeah, do an EA NHL power move and sign a player at 10x his value to eat the cap and reach the floor

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:53 p.m.

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

Yeah, do an EA NHL power move and sign a player at 10x his value to eat the cap and reach the floor

I would always sign Dale Weise to $16 million contracts when I had cap space just because.

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:53 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Quoting: mm1010

1. Mikko has a 15 team no-trade list.

If Ottawa is on that list, then it's not possible.

If Ottawa not on that list, dumping Mikko will cost a 2nd round pick or the equivalent.

2. Offer-sheeting Pettersson would cost 4 unprotected 1st round picks.

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:54 p.m.

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mm1010

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Quoting: sensonfire

1. Mikko was more of a joke

2. at 10.2 its 2 1st a second and a 3rd

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.

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sensonfire

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Quoting: oilersfan150

Why don’t you take a cap dump from the oilers instead.😁

If you're referring to Koskinen, this is what I have to say:

1. Mikko has a 15 team no-trade list.

2. If Ottawa is on that list, then it's not possible.

3. If Ottawa is not on that list, dumping Mikko will cost a 2nd round pick or the equivalent.

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

I would always sign Dale Weise to $16 million contracts when I had cap space just because.

I know that when you're doing a challenge like a draft to glory or you sell everyone and have 10 firsts, the best way to reach the floor is to sign some scrub ( preferably a player with a really good name ) to a max deal

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Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: sensonfire

1. The UFAs out there have no upside whatsoever and are not wanted by any NHL club as of right now.

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2. Asking a team to dump someone on us would involve a cost for that other team, probably draft pick(s), to which they might refuse to pay.

I think there are teams who come October are no compliant and will be willing to "give" Ottawa some players.
Thinking of the Leafs and Mikheyev...an NHL forward. Not saying the teams would want to give the Sens anything else, but it helps both team short term.

Sep. 14, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.

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Quoting: sensonfire

Also Kassian and turris are cap dumps.

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