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Nov. 2, 2021 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil1122
Here's mine

Somehow I got McAvoy for Subban


You accidentally used McAvoy’s extension, which is at $9.5 million instead of his current $4.9. So other than him the closest comparable is Ekblad.
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 5:49 p.m.
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That’s impressive


1 behind ANA
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 5:54 p.m.
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How do you calculate someone’s trade value. Just a question. Sometimes it’s pretty hard
Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:02 p.m.
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How do you calculate someone’s trade value. Just a question. Sometimes it’s pretty hard


It become more natural as you do it. I'd say take McDavid, he worth about 6-8 first round picks. Untradeable pretty much. Same with Mackinnon, Matthews, Makar, Fox, Hedman, McAvoy...etc. I calculate alot of it as how replaceable is the player? Longevity of career left/and contract left. What their contract status is RFA, UFA or ELC. How old they are, what there AAV of their contract is, Salary left on the contract(not a big deal but can matter). I'd say it more like McAvoy and Fox and Makar are all similar trade values, if you where to replace them with each other you wouldn't lose much between them, same ages, similar contracts, similar time left on contract, good production probably the 3 best RD right now. Take a player like Moritz Seider. If you traded Seider for Fox rn you would want to add probably a first and another good prospect on top of Seider because if the uncertainty Seider will reach that eschelon of greatness in the NHL, in 3 years Seider could be up there with those other 3 D but his uncertainty lowers his value...make sense?
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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It become more natural as you do it. I'd say take McDavid, he worth about 6-8 first round picks. Untradeable pretty much. Same with Mackinnon, Matthews, Makar, Fox, Hedman, McAvoy...etc. I calculate alot of it as how replaceable is the player? Longevity of career left/and contract left. What their contract status is RFA, UFA or ELC. How old they are, what there AAV of their contract is, Salary left on the contract(not a big deal but can matter). I'd say it more like McAvoy and Fox and Makar are all similar trade values, if you where to replace them with each other you wouldn't lose much between them, same ages, similar contracts, similar time left on contract, good production probably the 3 best RD right now. Take a player like Moritz Seider. If you traded Seider for Fox rn you would want to add probably a first and another good prospect on top of Seider because if the uncertainty Seider will reach that eschelon of greatness in the NHL, in 3 years Seider could be up there with those other 3 D but his uncertainty lowers his value...make sense?


That is exactly what I needed thank you
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
It become more natural as you do it. I'd say take McDavid, he worth about 6-8 first round picks. Untradeable pretty much. Same with Mackinnon, Matthews, Makar, Fox, Hedman, McAvoy...etc. I calculate alot of it as how replaceable is the player? Longevity of career left/and contract left. What their contract status is RFA, UFA or ELC. How old they are, what there AAV of their contract is, Salary left on the contract(not a big deal but can matter). I'd say it more like McAvoy and Fox and Makar are all similar trade values, if you where to replace them with each other you wouldn't lose much between them, same ages, similar contracts, similar time left on contract, good production probably the 3 best RD right now. Take a player like Moritz Seider. If you traded Seider for Fox rn you would want to add probably a first and another good prospect on top of Seider because if the uncertainty Seider will reach that eschelon of greatness in the NHL, in 3 years Seider could be up there with those other 3 D but his uncertainty lowers his value...make sense?


Quoting: capsfan2121
How do you calculate someone’s trade value. Just a question. Sometimes it’s pretty hard


Or EK is older but was that good you couldn't trade him for those 3 even if he was that good because he's alot older/contracts way more/and he has less years remaining.
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:04 p.m.
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That is exactly what I needed thank you


Lol, where are you putting it😮😆
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:05 p.m.
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Lol, where are you putting it😮😆


In photos so I can could back at it when I do acgms. I screened shot it
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:07 p.m.
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In photos so I can could back at it when I do acgms. I screened shot it


Oh, lol...it's not really that good of an example. Sometimes you can go into Hockey Reference .com and look at their WAR stats to compare players.

A couple years back I did this comparing 2 players who where really similar in my opinion still are but Vràna and Fiala. Could be a 1 for 1 trade duo if ever traded lol.
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:08 p.m.
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I fukcin love talking hockey too!! Leafs, Juniors/AHL/Euros do your thing


I will thanks
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Oh, lol...it's not really that good of an example. Sometimes you can go into Hockey Reference .com and look at their WAR stats to compare players.

A couple years back I did this comparing 2 players who where really similar in my opinion still are but Vràna and Fiala. Could be a 1 for 1 trade duo if ever traded lol.

I was trying to find those war charts thanks for telling me. I could see that to be fair value
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Oh, lol...it's not really that good of an example. Sometimes you can go into Hockey Reference .com and look at their WAR stats to compare players.

A couple years back I did this comparing 2 players who where really similar in my opinion still are but Vràna and Fiala. Could be a 1 for 1 trade duo if ever traded lol.


Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Oh, lol...it's not really that good of an example. Sometimes you can go into Hockey Reference .com and look at their WAR stats to compare players.

A couple years back I did this comparing 2 players who where really similar in my opinion still are but Vràna and Fiala. Could be a 1 for 1 trade duo if ever traded lol.


Quoting: capsfan2121
I will thanks


2 years ago Fiala and Vràna would be good one for ones, after last year I'd have added on Vràna because he produced less and missed games for injury and now id add on Fiala because he signed only for 1 year and he hasn't produced as much as Vràna in the first 8-11 games.
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:36 p.m.
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From cold stove podcast (@nhlrumorsdaily on Twitter )

- Oilers plan to to stick with Koskinen/Smith , not looking to trade for another goalie

-Rangers talked to Chicago about Dylan Strome

- isles not satisfied with Chara, looking to trade for a LHD soon
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:37 p.m.
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News around the league November 2, 2021
- Sabres would likely have to include 1-2 first round picks, an under 25 year old defensaman, a forward ( potentially Krebs, Smith, or Tuch ) and maybe a prospect for Eichel
- Oilers could very well be wanting a goaltender upgrade according to Nugent Bowman
- Vladimir Taresenko still wants to be traded out of St.Louis
- Fluery may want to finish the season outside of Chicago
- Frank Corrado could be returning to the NHL after his contract in Latvia was terminated
- Libor Hajek and Jonas Korpisalo could be on the trade radar for the coyotes
- NHL owners are getting fed up with Gary Bettmans leadership
Will post part two tonight
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
From cold stove podcast (nhlrumorsdaily on Twitter )

- Oilers plan to to stick with Koskinen/Smith , not looking to trade for another goalie

-Rangers talked to Chicago about Dylan Strome

- isles not satisfied with Chara, looking to trade for a LHD soon

Do you think the isles look to trade for linblom(spelled that wrong)
Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.
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Do you think the isles look to trade for linblom(spelled that wrong)


Maybe , depends on the price
Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:47 p.m.
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News around the league November 2, 2021 pt 2
- The Hawks and Ducks could be landing spots for Marner
- The Chinese Mens ice hockey team will be participating in the 2022 Beijing Olympics
- Carey Price could be making his return to the league as early as this weekend
- William Karlsson will miss at least four weeks with a broken foot
- Timo Meir has been placed on the Sharks covid protocal
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:57 p.m.
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.
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You know you're screwed when Howden is your 1C
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
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Injuries are a b word
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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holy sheezus they DID scratch romanov ducharme what the verybadword are you doing
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:15 p.m.
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holy sheezus they DID scratch romanov ducharme what the verybadword are you doing


Ducharme got saved by the playoff run, he's not that good of a coach
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.
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marner's goal tonight restored my confidence in the dude

whatabeaut

Pacha-perfect
Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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I hate the west coast road trips
The games are way too late
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Nov. 2, 2021 at 7:24 p.m.
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marner's goal tonight restored my confidence in the dude

whatabeaut

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^above image bc it didn’t work smh 8RKAP94.jpg
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