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Created by: a23wood

Team: 2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 2, 2021

Published: Nov. 2, 2021

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hague, Nicolas	3	$1,750,000
Kolesar, Keegan	2	$800,000
Roy, Nicolas	2	$900,000
Miromanov, Daniil	2	$800,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Reilly		2	$3,500,000
McNabb, Brayden		2	$1,750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Brisson, Brendan		3	$873,000

Trades

VGK

Eichel, Jack ($5,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

$2m of the retained money is being held by Buffalo. The rest is with another team.

BUF

Coghlan, Dylan
Krebs, Peyton
Tuch, Alex
2023 1st round pick (VGK)
2023 3rd round pick (VGK)
2024 1st round pick (VGK)

Additional Details:

2023 1st is for Buffalo. The other picks are for the other team that’s holding money.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$79,948,000	$0	$0	$2,552,000

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 5	Eichel, Jack $5,000,000$5,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, William $5,900,000$5,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 5	Smith, Reilly $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Stephenson, Chandler $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Patrick, Nolan $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Kolesar, Keegan $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 3
	Roy, Nicolas $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA - 5	Brisson, Brendan $873,000$873,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hague, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD RFA - 3	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,800,000$8,800,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Lehner, Robin $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Martinez, Alec $5,250,000$5,250,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Brossoit, Laurent $2,325,000$2,325,000 G UFA - 1
	Whitecloud, Zach $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 6
McNabb, Brayden $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 2
Miromanov, Daniil $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2

Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:01 a.m.

NYR1983

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So another team is retaining 3Mx5yrs for what??

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:02 a.m.

Gmonwy

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Buffalo has said multiple times they are not retaining

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Right...

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.

a23wood

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Quoting: NYR1983

So another team is retaining 3Mx5yrs for what??

For a 1st and a 3rd

Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:04 a.m.

a23wood

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Quoting: Gmonwy

Buffalo has said multiple times they are not retaining

They can say whatever they want. Clock is ticking on a possible grievance.

Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:05 a.m.

NYR1983

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Quoting: a23wood

For a 1st and a 3rd

That seems like a lot of money for a late 1st and late 3rd. I would think there’s another pick or prospect going to that team.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:10 a.m.

Tjm220

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Quoting: a23wood

They can say whatever they want. Clock is ticking on a possible grievance.

What grievance? The one Jack Eichel would’ve filed six months ago if he had a prayer in hell of winning? The Sabres have not broken any rules, filing a grievance would be a joke, and he would be laughed at because there is no chance he wins. Everybody seems to know that except for you.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:25 a.m.

a23wood

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Quoting: Tjm220

Did you not see the report from about a week ago? If something doesn’t happen soon, a grievance is going to be filed. Obviously no one wants that but it’s out there and very real.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 12:29 a.m.

Bannedforlife

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Retain 3x5 for a late 1st 2 years from now? Naw, I'm good...

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 1:02 a.m.

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Sabres923

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Quoting: a23wood

Did you not see the report from about a week ago? If something doesn’t happen soon, a grievance is going to be filed. Obviously no one wants that but it’s out there and very real.

The NHL is a little busy with the Blackhawks situation.. They won’t pay attention to a grievance especially when the Sabres aren’t doing anything wrong and following the CBA.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 1:38 a.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Quoting: a23wood

For a 1st and a 3rd

LOL No team is retaining $15,000,000 for 5 years for a measly 1st and 3rd round pick. need to be far more added then this.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 1:39 a.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Adams isn't retaining period, And no team out there is retaining $15,000,000 for 5 years on Jack Eichel. That's just pure laughable.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 1:55 a.m.

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mokumboi

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Dude. A 1st and a 3rd is NOT getting 25M in retention. Not even close.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:00 a.m.

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Theozler

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I think sabres could eventually break down and retain 1.5-2.0. I’ve said many times this whole situation is a worst case scenario from the sabres side:

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.

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gretzkyghosts

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Quoting: NYR1983

So another team is retaining 3Mx5yrs for what??

Quoting: Gmonwy

Buffalo has said multiple times they are not retaining

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Right...

Quoting: a23wood

For a 1st and a 3rd

Quoting: NYR1983

That seems like a lot of money for a late 1st and late 3rd. I would think there’s another pick or prospect going to that team.

Quoting: Tjm220

Quoting: Bannedforlife

Retain 3x5 for a late 1st 2 years from now? Naw, I'm good...

Quoting: Sabres923

The NHL is a little busy with the Blackhawks situation.. They won’t pay attention to a grievance especially when the Sabres aren’t doing anything wrong and following the CBA.

Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

LOL No team is retaining $15,000,000 for 5 years for a measly 1st and 3rd round pick. need to be far more added then this.

Quoting: Theozler

I think sabres could eventually break down and retain 1.5-2.0. I’ve said many times this whole situation is a worst case scenario from the sabres side:

The Islanders paid Arizona two seconds and a conditional 3rd to retain $4,375,000 of Andrew Ladd's salary over 2 year period.
So for 5 years of $5,000,000 per year that is 5 seconds and 3 thirds.
The Leaf's paid Carolina a first to take one year of Marleau's salary at $6,000,000
Give the Sabres 3 to 5 first round draft picks for retention and they may consider it.
That makes this trade Eichel and a first for future consideration..
It should be very clear that this is just woefully insufficient for Eichel.

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Nov. 3, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.

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Theozler

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts

The Islanders paid Arizona two seconds and a conditional 3rd to retain $4,375,000 of Andrew Ladd's salary over 2 year period.
So for 5 years of $5,000,000 per year that is 5 seconds and 3 thirds.
Give the Sabres 3 first round draft picks for retention and they may consider it.
That makes this trade Tuch for Eichel.
It should be very clear that this is just woefully insufficient for Eichel.

With 2.0 retention I do .22,23 firsts, tuch, brisson, smith. Then maybe another decent prospect if needed to complete it

Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.

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Bannedforlife

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts

This isn't what is being proposed. The trade is a 3 way deal where the third team retains $3mil in exchange for a 24 1st and a 23 3rd. I was replying as a fan of the potential third team. In that scenario, the third team is getting screwed and there isn't a GM in the league that would accept it.

Nov. 3, 2021 at 4:13 p.m.

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gretzkyghosts

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Quoting: Bannedforlife

I am responding to the 1st and 3rd representing between a quarter and third of the value needed to retrain $5,000,000 over a five year period.
That should be clear from the sample trades I posted.

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