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If things dont go well this year - Rebuild

Created by: l19f9
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2021
Published: Nov. 27, 2021
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
DeBrusk, Jake2$3,750,000
Steen, Oskar2$800,000
Studnicka, Jack2$800,000
Vaakanainen, Urho2$800,000
Zboril, Jakub2$900,000
Senyshyn, Zach2$900,000
Kuhlman, Karson1$800,000
Keyser, Kyle1$800,000
Ahcan, Jack1$800,000
Booth, Callum1$800,000
Hughes, Cameron1$800,000
Wolff, Nick1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Bergeron, Patrice1$5,000,000
Frödén, Jesper2$900,000
Lazar, Curtis2$950,000
Rask, Tuukka2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Ullmark, Linus
2.
BOS
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Frederic, Trent
  2. Foligno, Nick
3.
BOS
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
  2. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Hall, Taylor
4.
BOS
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. 2023 1st round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Forbort, Derek
5.
BOS
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Smith, Craig
  2. Moore, John
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,237,501$0$2,732,500$3,262,499
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Marchand, Brad
$6,125,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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Bergeron, Patrice
$5,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Pastrnak, David
$6,666,667
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Skinner, Jeff
$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Haula, Erik
$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Toffoli, Tyler
$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Lauko, Jakub
$764,167
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Studnicka, Jack
$800,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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Lysell, Fabian
$894,167
RW
RFA - 3
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Nosek, Tomas
$1,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Lazar, Curtis
$950,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Frödén, Jesper
$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Grzelcyk, Matt
$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2
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McAvoy, Charlie
$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
Rask, Tuukka
$2,000,000
G
UFA
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Reilly, Mike
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Carlo, Brandon
$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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Swayman, Jeremy
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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Zboril, Jakub
$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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Karlsson, Erik
$11,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Clifton, Connor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Wagner, Chris
$1,350,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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Kuhlman, Karson
$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:27 p.m.
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hard pass
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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No thx
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:31 p.m.
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In what world does Buffalo consider that???

Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:35 p.m.
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Despite him stabilizing a bit this season Skinner really still does have almost inverse Eichel value so it should be closer to his return from VGK recently
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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that 2nd line...
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
In what world does Buffalo consider that???

Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that


In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:50 p.m.
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I think this is a good idea for Boston in a few years as their 2025-2030 looks barren but they should wait as they're still a 54% corsi team with low PDO

Still a contender but maybe a bit less due to age

This is likely the beginning of the end
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.
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Of course buffalo says no
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:58 p.m.
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The Sabres trade is absolutely LAUGHABLE
Why on earth would they trade away what’s likely to be a high 1st round pick???
The Sabres are ALREADY in a rebuild
And a couple of average Vets certainly aren’t gonna move the needle for them cut that short

Heck, i don’t think any of these trades are going through
Teams that are rebuilding themselves aren’t gonna give up their 1st round picks
There’s just no chance
Nov. 27, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.
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No. Ur trading to rebuilding teams. Know who ur trading towards
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that


Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.
Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah


Not a chance in hell Buffalo considers this

We don’t wanna get rid of Skinner,
we actually NEED his cap hit to get to the Cap floor

And we aren't gonna cut our rebuild short for guys like Smith & Moore
It’s utterly laughable that we’d consider this
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.


We don’t wanna get out of that contract though
We actually NEED Skinner’s cap hit to get to the Cap floor

Nice try though
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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Sharks aren’t doing that, they wouldn’t even consider that.
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Radu47
In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah


I can understand where you're coming from, but the Sabres won't be cap-strapped for years with all their young contracts.

IF they decided Skinner needed to come off their books, this trade doesn't happen for at least another two seasons and once the cap rises so his contract isn't completely detrimental to the team their trading him to. This trade now would be counter-productive to a Sabres rebuild
Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.


It's a top 10 pick. We are nowhere close to the cap floor with out him and we are 2 years away from competing

It's laughably bad
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.
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Pastrnak in one-year deal. Not selling him in rebuild?
Nov. 27, 2021 at 7:58 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It's a top 10 pick. We are nowhere close to the cap floor with out him and we are 2 years away from competing

It's laughably bad


If you look at the statement I quoted, you'll see I was referring to the part about BUF not wanting to do it for Skinner alone. Obviously with BUF's lottery pick involved, it's ludicrously bad for the Sabres.
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Nov. 27, 2021 at 9:15 p.m.
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Its fine as an exercise if you wanna see just how much it would take for a team to take jeff skinner at 9m for multiple seasons. Theres 31 nhl gms that are quite happy that jeff skinner isnt their problem, in no way does skinner at 9m in a flat cap have positive value. The reality is buffalo has no reason to move him right now, and every year he plays is 2 fewer years of retention when he does get bought out. I figure 2 years, the buyout looks almost bearable at that point. Trading first round picks to get cap space that we dont need, of course no.
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Nov. 28, 2021 at 10:46 a.m.
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No thx
Quoting: Sabres_Insider
In what world does Buffalo consider that???...
Quoting: Radu47
..stabilizing a bit this season Skinner...
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The Sabres trade is absolutely LAUGHABLE...
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...Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.
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...Sabres won't be cap-strapped for years with all their young contracts....

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...Trading first round picks to get cap space that we dont need, of course no.
I agree that this would be the worse trade the Sabres ever made.
Skinner is actually performing as expected. At this rate he will have 24 goals and 52 pts, close his life time average.
He is over paid as it was expected he would be playing with Jack and 40 goals seasons would be the norm.
Buffalo will NEED his contract for at least 3 more seasons and if he is bought out after that his buyout will last for only 4 more seasons.
The cap hits will be $4KK, $6KK, $2KK and $2KK, not good to have that much dead cap, but it is manageable.
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I agree that this would be the worse trade the Sabres ever made.
Skinner is actually performing as expected. At this rate he will have 24 goals and 52 pts, close his life time average.
He is over paid as it was expected he would be playing with Jack and 40 goals seasons would be the norm.
Buffalo will NEED his contract for at least 3 more seasons and if he is bought out after that his buyout will last for only 4 more seasons.
The cap hits will be $4KK, $6KK, $2KK and $2KK, not good to have that much dead cap, but it is manageable.


This guy’s trade proposal lacks sense in the same way MANY of the Eichel trade proposals on here did
It’s really, really bad
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