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If Toronto is eliminated in one round

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Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 12, 2022
Published: Apr. 12, 2022
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1$750,000
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1$750,000
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  1. Nylander, William
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Reasons for vancouver to make the trade

1) Garland hasn’t been the best fit for vancouver
2) Vancouver needs to increase its offense
TOR
  1. Garland, Conor
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Reasons for Toronto to make the trade:

1) save 2 million in cap space
2) shake up the core
3) 4 year term vs 2 year term
4) In terms of underlying profile, from sites like evolving hockey, jfresh, etc., Garland and Nylander are comparatively valuable. Nylander is the better scorer/offensive player and much better on the PP. Garland is the better play driver and two way player with better penalty differentials. Aka the leafs do not get any worse with this trade, the just get a different type of player
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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Leafs reject.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.
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Leafs would decline.

It would have to be a bit more than just Garland for Nylander.
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
Leafs would decline.

It would have to be a bit more than just Garland for Nylander.

Be more than a bit imo
Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
Leafs would decline.

It would have to be a bit more than just Garland for Nylander.


Quoting: Xqb15a
Be more than a bit imo


I’d do it if Vancouver threw in Luke Schenn, and maybe a mid round pick.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.
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It might be a fair trade, but if the Leafs were to trade Nylander it would be get cap space to fill out the lineup. Doesn't really matter how far the Leafs go in the playoffs. Heck win the Cup, and the cap issues are still the same. Have Nylander win the Conn Smythe and his trade value goes up.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
Leafs would decline.

It would have to be a bit more than just Garland for Nylander.


Agreed but VAN prospect pool sucks

10. Chase Wouters
9. Arturs Silovs
8. Mikey DiPietro
7. Lucas Forsell
6. Linus Karlsson
5. Jett Woo
4. Aidan McDonough
3. Will Lockwood
2. Danila Klimovich
1. Jack Rathbone

Nobody I’d really want
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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Vancouver would need to add, and I think pretty significantly. Garland and a protected first makes sense to me.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.
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Quoting: ZachHymanForTheHart
Leafs would decline.

It would have to be a bit more than just Garland for Nylander.


Garland makes 1.5 million more than he should. It's a bad contract
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I’d do it if Vancouver threw in Luke Schenn, and maybe a mid round pick.


Schenn sucks and Garland makes 1.5 more than he should. He's a less versatile Kerfoot. Nylander is way better than Garland. This is just insane
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:20 p.m.
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This is highway robbery, Nylander has a good contract and is nearly a point a game player, Garland is a 40-50 point secondary winger. Kerfoot is out performing him at 1.5 less. This is just nonsense
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Garland makes 1.5 million more than he should. It's a bad contract


You constantly say Garland is a bad contract when that’s just not true at all. He’s a great two way player and play driver, and just had a cold stretch this season that deflated his numbers a bit. Last year on a bad Arizona team he played at a 65 point pace
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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"IF"?
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Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Schenn sucks and Garland makes 1.5 more than he should. He's a less versatile Kerfoot. Nylander is way better than Garland. This is just insane


Schenn is a fine bottom 4 defenseman. He’d be a decent Boosh replacement if he leaves.

Garland is a fine player with a better contract than Nylander.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.
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Weird how "make a terrible trade and make the team worse" is always the solution to losing in thw first round
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Schenn is a fine bottom 4 defenseman. He’d be a decent Boosh replacement if he leaves.

Garland is a fine player with a better contract than Nylander.


Schenn isnt half as good as booch and garland isnt near as good as nylander
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:44 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Schenn isnt half as good as booch and garland isnt near as good as nylander


I didn't say he'd be as good as Boosh but he'd be a decent replacement if Boosh does decide to leave.

Garland isn't as good as Nylander, I agree. But he's cheaper and under contract for longer.

Preferedly, the package would be something like Garland, Schenn and a first for Nylander. Nylander is under contract for only 2 more years, and Garland for 4, so I would do that personally.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:53 p.m.
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You constantly say Garland is a bad contract when that’s just not true at all. He’s a great two way player and play driver, and just had a cold stretch this season that deflated his numbers a bit. Last year on a bad Arizona team he played at a 65 point pace


And Nylander is getting scored on more than he should and is scoring less than he should and still is almost a point a game. He's being driving play since his first season. He's worth way more than Garland. Garland just doesn't produce enough to warrant his 5 million price tag. It was a bet by Benning that his 65 point pace was just the beginning and so far it hasn't been. He's a good player but he's not a 5 million dollar value. Kerfoot has been very good this year and had out produced Garland with zero PP time. Kerfoot is good defensively, kills penalties and can play centre. He's the absolute best comparison between the teams. Very similar players, two way, fast, not very big. Nylander is not remotely comparable to Garland.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 7:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I didn't say he'd be as good as Boosh but he'd be a decent replacement if Boosh does decide to leave.

Garland isn't as good as Nylander, I agree. But he's cheaper and under contract for longer.

Preferedly, the package would be something like Garland, Schenn and a first for Nylander. Nylander is under contract for only 2 more years, and Garland for 4, so I would do that personally.


why though? The team is worse, you dont get value out of the trade and the cap space isnt even worth it. And Garland's older too. This trade makes no sense on any level for a team trying to win now
Apr. 12, 2022 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Schenn is a fine bottom 4 defenseman. He’d be a decent Boosh replacement if he leaves.

Garland is a fine player with a better contract than Nylander.


Schenn wouldn't make the Leafs right now. If he's your starting #6 defenceman, your defence is weak. And Nylander has a better contract. He produces flat out way more than Garland and still has more to give. Garland is a 40 point winger who's smaller than Nylander. It doesn't matter that he makes 2 Million less, Nylander is worth his contract without a doubt, it's a fantastic value. Garland is getting paid like he's supposed to be Nylander's level but has never been close. He's much closer to Kerfoot and Kerfoot will be moved because we have proven that you can find much better value by betting on guess who are lesser known. Kampf, Kase, Mikheyev, Engvall, and Bunting. (I know Engvall was drafted but hes major value due to what he can contribute vs his salary) you can find almost everything Garland offers for much less. Just like Bunting can produce everything Hyman did but for 4.5 million less. Finding a Nylander though? It just doesn't happen often. Getting everything Garland is though? You can hope for Robertson, or Knies or Amirov (hopefully he comes back from his cancer stronger than ever). But none of them are what Nylander is or what he still could become.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
why though? The team is worse, you dont get value out of the trade and the cap space isnt even worth it. And Garland's older too. This trade makes no sense on any level for a team trying to win now


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Schenn wouldn't make the Leafs right now. If he's your starting #6 defenceman, your defence is weak. And Nylander has a better contract. He produces flat out way more than Garland and still has more to give. Garland is a 40 point winger who's smaller than Nylander. It doesn't matter that he makes 2 Million less, Nylander is worth his contract without a doubt, it's a fantastic value. Garland is getting paid like he's supposed to be Nylander's level but has never been close. He's much closer to Kerfoot and Kerfoot will be moved because we have proven that you can find much better value by betting on guess who are lesser known. Kampf, Kase, Mikheyev, Engvall, and Bunting. (I know Engvall was drafted but hes major value due to what he can contribute vs his salary) you can find almost everything Garland offers for much less. Just like Bunting can produce everything Hyman did but for 4.5 million less. Finding a Nylander though? It just doesn't happen often. Getting everything Garland is though? You can hope for Robertson, or Knies or Amirov (hopefully he comes back from his cancer stronger than ever). But none of them are what Nylander is or what he still could become.


Really the only reason they might do it is to shake up the core. If they feel they have to, I’m just saying I wouldn’t hate it. I can understand why someone wouldn’t like it.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 9:28 p.m.
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Really the only reason they might do it is to shake up the core. If they feel they have to, I’m just saying I wouldn’t hate it. I can understand why someone wouldn’t like it.


It's a bad deal though, if you need to make a shake up, at least make a deal both sides feel good about. Like Laine for Dubois, I don't think either side is upset with that deal right now. This is closer to Hall for Larsson territory, not as bad obviously but a clear loss.
Apr. 12, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I didn't say he'd be as good as Boosh but he'd be a decent replacement if Boosh does decide to leave.

Garland isn't as good as Nylander, I agree. But he's cheaper and under contract for longer.

Preferedly, the package would be something like Garland, Schenn and a first for Nylander. Nylander is under contract for only 2 more years, and Garland for 4, so I would do that personally.


And you would be wishing you had Nylander because of his offence
Apr. 12, 2022 at 11:26 p.m.
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Its not awful but not great. Nylander is the better guy so a 1 for 1 would not be ideal despite Garland being one of my fav wingers.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 12:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
It's a bad deal though, if you need to make a shake up, at least make a deal both sides feel good about. Like Laine for Dubois, I don't think either side is upset with that deal right now. This is closer to Hall for Larsson territory, not as bad obviously but a clear loss.


Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
And you would be wishing you had Nylander because of his offence


I mean, Garland is probably like a 45-50 point winger where as Nylander is 70-75. And Garland plays a more psychical game and he’s probably better at defense.

I have already said Nylander is the better player. I’m just saying Garland is a fine centrepiece for a Nylander package (just not one for one).

And it appears that @aadoyle agrees with me haha.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I mean, Garland is probably like a 45-50 point winger where as Nylander is 70-75. And Garland plays a more psychical game and he’s probably better at defense.

I have already said Nylander is the better player. I’m just saying Garland is a fine centrepiece for a Nylander package (just not one for one).

And it appears that aadoyle agrees with me haha.


Mikheyev, Andreas Johnsson, Kerfoot, Kapanen to an extent, there are lots of 40-45 point wingers who are good defensively. There are not many 70-75 point players. There are definitely lots of guys similar or have elements that Garland has that are way cheaper than his 5 million salary. Like Engvall is as good defensively and costs 1.25 million. Kerfoot makes 3.5 and who is closer to Garland, Kerfoot? Or Nylander?
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