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i will say, for this ACGM, the only players that are off the table imo are suzuki, caufield, romanov, guhle, barron (maybe anderson too). however, please be realistic with your costs (dont say something like "its gonna take suzuki to add my favourite 4th line player because hes very good"), and we can talk costs.
also, please don't say "this guy isnt moving". chances are im aware he's not moving, i just want to know how he's valued.
lets keep this civilized

i'll give you an opportunity to turn back by telling you who i'm asking the prices on.
Brock Boeser
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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Canucks would likely need a package involving Barron for Boeser. Not sure if there’s a deal to be made that makes sense for both teams though
Apr. 13, 2022 at 8:52 p.m.
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Canucks would likely need a package involving Barron for Boeser. Not sure if there’s a deal to be made that makes sense for both teams though


theres also logan mailloux wink
but i guess youre right, if it includes barron i dont think the canadiens should take considering the habs are fairly shallow on RD too for the future

but maybe, lets say it happens, a package like Barron + Ylonen + Panthers 1st? or is that an underball
Apr. 13, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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Laf isn’t available and the price would be stupid. Lundkvist would take a 1st(not this years) but there’s no reason to move him. The insurance of having him if someone gets injured is too convenient to let him go for less
Apr. 13, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.
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Laf isn’t available and the price would be stupid. Lundkvist would take a 1st(not this years) but there’s no reason to move him. The insurance of having him if someone gets injured is too convenient to let him go for less



Quoting: Zuki9797
please don't say "this guy isnt moving"

im sure the price would be stupid for laf, i want to know how stupid considering hes struggled a lot with the rangers this season. and i agree with your point on lundkvist, but again, this is capfriendly, i doubt anything posted on here will actually happen (which gm would take some random fan's advice?)
Apr. 13, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.
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Laf isn’t available and the price would be stupid. Lundkvist would take a 1st(not this years) but there’s no reason to move him. The insurance of having him if someone gets injured is too convenient to let him go for less


A first round pick for an average prospect posing as a 4RD on the Rangers?
Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
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im sure the price would be stupid for laf, i want to know how stupid considering hes struggled a lot with the rangers this season. and i agree with your point on lundkvist, but again, this is capfriendly, i doubt anything posted on here will actually happen (which gm would take some random fan's advice?)


He has been fine. There’s no NYR fans unhappy with him. Despite other markets who don’t watch more then the 2-3 games they play NYR saying he’s a bust or some version of that, it’s wrong. Him and Kakko are actually doing good, not McD or Matthews good where they come into a busted team, get top 6 time, 1PP time and score 30-40 but Laf has been solid 5v5(one of our better players). This year’s 1st would be the ask and let’s be serious… cap world, the ELC is more valuable for MTL in their rebuild
Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:04 p.m.
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A first round pick for an average prospect posing as a 4RD on the Rangers?


Worth and cost are 2 different things my friend. Worth a 2nd, costs a 1st as there 0 need to move him.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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Nm wrong post.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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Worth and cost are 2 different things my friend. Worth a 2nd, costs a 1st as there 0 need to move him.


I thought the Rangers are very willing to move him. I’m sure there are plenty of options for a 4RD. Lundqvist has pretty good potential so being a 7D is honestly really sad
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
theres also logan mailloux wink
but i guess youre right, if it includes barron i dont think the canadiens should take considering the habs are fairly shallow on RD too for the future

but maybe, lets say it happens, a package like Barron + Ylonen + Panthers 1st? or is that an underball


I think the Canucks would definitely consider taking that. Gives them a good prospect at their biggest need, a late 1st is nice, and Ylonen is a decent piece to add to the Canucks prospect pool (which definitely needs a lot of reinforcements)
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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I thought the Rangers are very willing to move him. I’m sure there are plenty of options for a 4RD. Lundqvist has pretty good potential so being a 7D is honestly really sad


Willing to move him in a trade that makes them better ya. Getting a 2nd doesn’t meet that bar. Willing to move him and desperately trying to get rid off are 2 very different things again. They were desperate to move ADA last season.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:11 p.m.
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My two cents on this

VAN fans have said that Boeser "will not move without top-4 RHD coming back." but I'm of the opinion that currently there are no RHDs of interest to VAN available in exchange to Boeser. Guys like Carlo, Hronek, Pesce, Pionk and Marino for example all are worth more for their current teams than Boeser would be worth for them. So instead of those I think Boeser could be had for a young-ish roster player (RFA expiry), a RHD prospect and pick(s). I personally like the idea of Boeser heading to NJ in exchange to Zacha, Walsh and two second round picks, so it'd be a question of filling the blanks. Problem is that MTL don't exactly have assets to fill these blanks with - they currently don't have an around 25-year old mid-6 forward (Dvorak technically fits the bill but he's had an awful season and don't carry much trade value now), a good RHD prospect (Mailloux carries too much baggage right now to be traded), and I don't think they want to move picks either. So Boeser to MTL seems pretty unlikely now.

Roslovic can probably be had for a similar kind of haul EDM once paid for Athanasiou. I think couple of second round picks will suffice here, or something like that.

Yamamoto and Dube are bit more interesting cases because EDM and CGY respectively have no clear reason to move them. They're playoff teams and are looking to strengthen their core instead of moving assets for futures. So pieces offered them must be some that would help them now. But once again we're in situation where Habs don't really have anything to offer for them. I could maybe see CGY being willing to trade Dube for Harris during the offseason in order to save some cap, because they'll likely be losing assets if they'll keep both Gaudreau and Tkachuk, so cap issues might bring force them to trim their roster a bit. Same applies to Yamamoto if he's asking for a bigger contract next, but right now it seems unlikely.

NYR would probably trade Lundkvist to get better now, but I'm not sure if Habs have anything to offer for him.

With Bernard-Docker there might be potential room for a prospect swap since it looks like JBD might have hard time fitting to the Sens lineup. Maybe a 1-on-1 swap between JBD and Ylönen works?

Also fwiw, Lafreniere is not going to move without your untouchables so I'll leave him out.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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Listing all those untouchables (which i'd assume would also include the 2022 & 2023 1sts), and then trying to trade for Lafreniere is laughable.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 10:25 p.m.
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Roz's value kind of veers around from day to day. Right now the appetite for trading him is going to be about nil 'cause, y'know, five goals in two games from a hometown kid playing a position of desperate need.
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Apr. 13, 2022 at 10:35 p.m.
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Laffy is not available so there is no point to try to name a price. Lundqvist will most likely be part of package deal to get a top 6 forward depending on who Drury can sign among Strome, Copp and Vatrano. If he can sign Vatrano and either Strome or Copp, then the top 6 is pretty set, and then Lundqvist may be kept as a 3rd pair with Schneider.
Apr. 13, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Zuki9797
theres also logan mailloux wink
but i guess youre right, if it includes barron i dont think the canadiens should take considering the habs are fairly shallow on RD too for the future

but maybe, lets say it happens, a package like Barron + Ylonen + Panthers 1st? or is that an underball


That's overpaying like crazy !
Apr. 13, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.
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Lafreniere + Lundqvist for Habs 1st this year + 3rd rounder

For boeser, they'd want barron, and habs wouldn't give it, so something like 1st Flames or Panthers + Ylönen is the only thing Habs do.

I can see a trade of White + JBD for Drouin + 4th

Roslovic for 2nd + Poehling + Struble

Dube for 2nd + Tuch

I can see Allen 50% retained + 5th for Yamamoto + Konovalov
Apr. 14, 2022 at 2:21 a.m.
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My two cents on this
With Bernard-Docker there might be potential room for a prospect swap since it looks like JBD might have hard time fitting to the Sens lineup. Maybe a 1-on-1 swap between JBD and Ylönen works?


There’s no incentive for Ottawa to swap JBD for Ylonen. I don’t see their value being equal and they certainly wouldn’t be based on need either. Zub is the only lock moving forward in the right. There no reason that Lassi and JBD can’t be projected out as the other two on the right side.

I’d pass is that was the swap. Value-wise Ottawa would be looking for a 1st given that’s the pick they used to get him and he really hasn’t disappointed at all since being drafted.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 3:18 a.m.
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Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
There’s no incentive for Ottawa to swap JBD for Ylonen. I don’t see their value being equal and they certainly wouldn’t be based on need either. Zub is the only lock moving forward in the right. There no reason that Lassi and JBD can’t be projected out as the other two on the right side.

I’d pass is that was the swap. Value-wise Ottawa would be looking for a 1st given that’s the pick they used to get him and he really hasn’t disappointed at all since being drafted.


Sure, your guesstimate on his value is just as good as mine. I just chose a prospect that is pretty much at the same state as JBD is in his career, at the verge on taking a slot in NHL.

If Ylönen doesn't work for you, name a player you'd like more in exchange to him. I think that was the point of this post in the first place. Ylönen was drafted like 9 places after JBD so there's no massive pick difference between them.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 4:02 a.m.
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Yamamoto for Evans + Allen
Apr. 14, 2022 at 4:21 a.m.
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My two cents on this

VAN fans have said that Boeser "will not move without top-4 RHD coming back." but I'm of the opinion that currently there are no RHDs of interest to VAN available in exchange to Boeser. Guys like Carlo, Hronek, Pesce, Pionk and Marino for example all are worth more for their current teams than Boeser would be worth for them. So instead of those I think Boeser could be had for a young-ish roster player (RFA expiry), a RHD prospect and pick(s). I personally like the idea of Boeser heading to NJ in exchange to Zacha, Walsh and two second round picks, so it'd be a question of filling the blanks. Problem is that MTL don't exactly have assets to fill these blanks with - they currently don't have an around 25-year old mid-6 forward (Dvorak technically fits the bill but he's had an awful season and don't carry much trade value now), a good RHD prospect (Mailloux carries too much baggage right now to be traded), and I don't think they want to move picks either. So Boeser to MTL seems pretty unlikely now.

Roslovic can probably be had for a similar kind of haul EDM once paid for Athanasiou. I think couple of second round picks will suffice here, or something like that.

Yamamoto and Dube are bit more interesting cases because EDM and CGY respectively have no clear reason to move them. They're playoff teams and are looking to strengthen their core instead of moving assets for futures. So pieces offered them must be some that would help them now. But once again we're in situation where Habs don't really have anything to offer for them. I could maybe see CGY being willing to trade Dube for Harris during the offseason in order to save some cap, because they'll likely be losing assets if they'll keep both Gaudreau and Tkachuk, so cap issues might bring force them to trim their roster a bit. Same applies to Yamamoto if he's asking for a bigger contract next, but right now it seems unlikely.

NYR would probably trade Lundkvist to get better now, but I'm not sure if Habs have anything to offer for him.

With Bernard-Docker there might be potential room for a prospect swap since it looks like JBD might have hard time fitting to the Sens lineup. Maybe a 1-on-1 swap between JBD and Ylönen works?

Also fwiw, Lafreniere is not going to move without your untouchables so I'll leave him out.


As an Oiler fan I'd do Yamo for Evans + Allen.... This would piss alot of fans off, but moving Yamo would most likely free up some cap space to get Kane resigned and for what the Oilers need roster wise Kane is more important than Yamo. Also i think the bottom 6 needs improvment. Evans would definitely improve the Oilers current bottom 6 & if needed he can move up in the lineup, he kills penalties, he is young and signed to a very team friendly deal for 3 more seasons after this one.
Allen would be an obvious improvement for the Goal tending situation and with one yr left on his contract, no risk really. Gives the Oilers a season to have Skinner backing up full time, maybe even running a 50/50 scenario to get a better idea of what Skinner can do and if he is going to be 'the guy' going forward.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Lafreniere + Lundqvist for Habs 1st this year + 3rd rounder

For boeser, they'd want barron, and habs wouldn't give it, so something like 1st Flames or Panthers + Ylönen is the only thing Habs do.

I can see a trade of White + JBD for Drouin + 4th

Roslovic for 2nd + Poehling + Struble

Dube for 2nd + Tuch

I can see Allen 50% retained + 5th for Yamamoto + Konovalov


Drouin is not worth anything considering you don’t even know if he’ll play and he hasn’t been great when he has played. You might get a fourth or third for him at most. So the way I see it is White for Drouin with Montreal getting the better player and JBD for a 4th. That’s sad.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Lafreniere + Lundqvist for Habs 1st this year + 3rd rounder

For boeser, they'd want barron, and habs wouldn't give it, so something like 1st Flames or Panthers + Ylönen is the only thing Habs do.

I can see a trade of White + JBD for Drouin + 4th

Roslovic for 2nd + Poehling + Struble

Dube for 2nd + Tuch

I can see Allen 50% retained + 5th for Yamamoto + Konovalov


Well at least trades involving NYR, VAN, OTT and EDM are extremely lopsided towards MTL's favor here.

CBJ and CGY ones are ok-ish, but don't really tackle their issues per se.
Apr. 14, 2022 at 11:37 a.m.
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Sure, your guesstimate on his value is just as good as mine. I just chose a prospect that is pretty much at the same state as JBD is in his career, at the verge on taking a slot in NHL.

If Ylönen doesn't work for you, name a player you'd like more in exchange to him. I think that was the point of this post in the first place. Ylönen was drafted like 9 places after JBD so there's no massive pick difference between them.


Honestly I’m not sure if there’s anyone in the system that Ottawa would prioritize. I think they’d take a late 1st but prospect wise someone like Kidney or Diondi could’ve made sense but they’re both left shots and Ottawas need is on the right side.

Genuinely don’t think there’s a swap right now that would make sense.
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Apr. 14, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.
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Honestly I’m not sure if there’s anyone in the system that Ottawa would prioritize. I think they’d take a late 1st but prospect wise someone like Kidney or Diondi could’ve made sense but they’re both left shots and Ottawas need is on the right side.

Genuinely don’t think there’s a swap right now that would make sense.


That's fair.

Ylönen is a right shot and scoring at a good rate though lol
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