Trade proposal i saw on a blog

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Created by: athrin

Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2022

Published: May 3, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

what do Sens and Red wings fans think of this trade proposal i saw on a blog site

Trades

OTT

Seider, Moritz

DET

Norris, Joshua
Thomson, Lassi
2022 1st round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

Top 3 protected

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Nicholas Paul: $600,750 (44.5%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$68,665,590	$0	$4,507,500	$13,834,410

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,330,674$8,330,674 LW UFA - 7	Tierney, Chris $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Gambrell, Dylan $1,100,000$1,100,000 C UFA - 1	White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Gaudette, Adam $997,500$997,500 C, RW UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Formenton, Alex $747,500$747,500 ($107,500$108K) LW RFA - 1
	Joseph, Mathieu $737,500$737,500 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 7	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Forsberg, Anton $900,000$900,000 G UFA - 1
Del Zotto, Michael $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Mete, Victor $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 LD UFA - 3
Brännström, Erik $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) LD/RD, LW RFA - 1
Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 3
	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 2
	Ennis, Tyler $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

May 3, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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No.

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May 3, 2022 at 4:47 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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Detroit declines

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May 3, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.

csick

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Seider plays the more important position so I can’t see it happening

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May 3, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.

Fergy22

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who comes up with these crazy deals, how often do you see teams trading 20 year old franchise players ??

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May 3, 2022 at 4:54 p.m.

buffbry

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Wings can't say yes to this, #1 D are really hard to find

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May 3, 2022 at 4:55 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Fergy22

who comes up with these crazy deals, how often do you see teams trading 20 year old franchise players ??

CFACGM is an exercise in fantasy land. Not reality.

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May 3, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.

Fergy22

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

CFACGM is an exercise in fantasy land. Not reality.

sorry ... I fantasize about other things not far fetched hockey trades

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May 3, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Fergy22

sorry ... I fantasize about other things not far fetched hockey trades

No one cares.

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May 3, 2022 at 4:59 p.m.

TampaBayLightning22

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Nope if you want Seider than there's no top 3 protection. And even if the 1st is Shane Wright Detroit still turns it down. Seider is far too important to the team.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:06 p.m.

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Jfstompers

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I mean I can't see moving Mo but its a good offer. Draft jiricek or nemec with the pick, its tempting.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:07 p.m.

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TampaBayLightning22

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Outside of Chabot, Stutzle and Brady Tkachuk you've nothing that would entice us to move Mo Seider. If you want Seider then you need to include one of those 3.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.

#12

Redstinger

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No, its not going to happen. That's worse than a Kaprizov trade out of Minnesota for peanuts or a Larkin trade out of Detroit for a bag of pucks!

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May 3, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.

#13

Redstinger

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Think what Colorado would ask for Makar and add a piece.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.

#14

Claesson4Norris

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I don't think the offer is as ridiculous as Wings fans will suggest (22 year old 1C + nhl ready RHD prospect with top 4 upside + top 9 pick) but you have Mo Seider you simply keep Mo Seider. Would have loved to see him in Ottawa with Stützle though.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Jfstompers

I mean I can't see moving Mo but its a good offer. Draft jiricek or nemec with the pick, its tempting.

Trying to be as unbiased as possible, I really don’t think it’s a bad offer. It’s just trying to trade an untouchable , it’s never realistic lmao

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May 3, 2022 at 5:31 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: buffbry

Wings can't say yes to this, #1 D are really hard to find

Especially one that is right-handed and 20yrs old.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22

Outside of Chabot, Stutzle and Brady Tkachuk you've nothing that would entice us to move Mo Seider. If you want Seider then you need to include one of those 3.

You can't leave Batherson off that list. #indatub

May 3, 2022 at 5:45 p.m.

#18

aedoran

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I don't know what blog site you saw this on but I would definitely consider not going back to it. Or at the very least take anything you read on it with a grain of salt.

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May 3, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.

#19

TampaBayLightning22

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Quoting: aedoran

You can't leave Batherson off that list. #indatub

Yeah include Batherson as well.

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May 3, 2022 at 6:56 p.m.

#20

NDoody

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Yah No from both sides.

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May 3, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.

#21

benkel

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This trade is within the division and does not adequately serve the interests of either team.

I'd argue it's an overpayment from Ottawa because you've included Josh Norris.

May 3, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.

#22

Drw4209

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Lol wouldn't even trade Seider for Brady+++

May 3, 2022 at 10:28 p.m.

#23

csick

KFTW

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Quoting: Drw4209

Lol wouldn't even trade Seider for Brady+++

Well yeah. You never trade a RD for a winger

May 3, 2022 at 10:35 p.m.

#24

mikearky

arky

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Sorry but Seider is a building block, like Hedman, Doughty, Seabrook or Keith. Now is he as good as these players, no, but it has been one year, but he is a favorite for the Calder and he has a very high ceiling. It just does not make sense for Wings to trade him, whether the deal is good or not. Now a number 1 center is a need, yes, but Seider has the marking s of a stud defenseman who could play for 10 to 12 years.

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