Letang is a cocky little so forget him

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Created by: Pens3lieve

Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 27, 2022

Published: Jun. 27, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Recent reports that the pens and letang aren’t close on $ (mark madden)
Also Friedman says they’re at least 1.25M apart
Also heard (don’t remember source) pens last offer was 4 years and just under 7.25…
So letang is basically asking for 5x8.6 or something
(Miri heiskanen comparable)?!
I say forget it I’m not paying him…I’d rather have a patchwork defense of 6 #2-#5 guys with balance and just a lil speed and puck moving
The Avs just won the cup with jack Johnson on their first paring so if we stack our forwards I think we can make it work

Random thought—if they can’t sign letang they’ll probably sign geno just so they don’t lose both which is stupid but obviously they care more about selling tickets and geno jerseys than winning now

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Yamamoto, Kailer	3	$2,500,000
Nylander, Alexander	2	$850,000
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier	3	$850,000
Kapanen, Kasperi	1	$962,000
Björkqvist, Kasper	1	$800,000
Lee, Cameron	1	$800,000
Reilly, Will	1	$800,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Trocheck, Vincent	7	$5,500,000
Marchment, Mason	2	$3,500,000
Paul, Nicholas	3	$3,250,000
Rakell, Rickard	4	$4,250,000
Comrie, Eric	1	$950,000
DeSmith, Casey	1	$950,000
Halák, Jaroslav	1	$950,000
Zadorov, Nikita	4	$3,500,000
Miller, Colin	3	$3,250,000
Husso, Ville	2	$4,000,000

Trades

PIT

EDM

Dumoulin, Brian
Hållander, Filip
Heinen, Danton [RFA Rights]
O'Connor, Drew
2022 4th round pick (PIT)

PIT

Gurianov, Denis
Hakanpää, Jani
2022 1st round pick (DAL)

DAL

PIT

Hronek, Filip

DET

Broz, Tristan [Reserve List]
Maniscalco, Joshua
2022 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Borgström, Henrik
Johnson, Tyler ($2,500,000 retained)

CHI

Pettersson, Marcus

PIT

2022 6th round pick (ARI)

ARI

Zucker, Jason

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $1,916,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$78,353,667	$0	$0	$4,146,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Marchment, Mason $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Trocheck, Vincent $5,500,000$5,500,000 C, RW UFA - 7	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Gurianov, Denis $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2	Yamamoto, Kailer $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW RFA - 2
Paul, Nicholas $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 7	Blueger, Teddy $2,200,000$2,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Johnson, Tyler $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Zadorov, Nikita $3,500,000$3,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Miller, Colin $3,250,000$3,250,000 RD UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $850,000$850,000 LD RFA - 2	Hakanpää, Jani $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Husso, Ville $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Kapanen, Kasperi $962,000$962,000 RW UFA - 2		Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2
Zohorna, Radim $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Comrie, Eric $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 2
Friedman, Mark $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD/RD UFA - 2
Borgström, Henrik $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0) C RFA - 1
Nylander, Alexander $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0) RW, LW RFA - 1
DeSmith, Casey $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 2
Halák, Jaroslav $950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) G UFA - 1

Jun. 27, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.

Pensman69

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I’m not even sure a single team accepts any of those awful trades. The Edmonton one is an absolute joke, Ken Holland himself wouldn’t even pick up the phone.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.

drambui

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you might want to look at jack johnson icetime during the cup run. the guy was playing about 8 min a night... clearly not on first pair.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 11:44 a.m.

JSEB93

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Did you just say JJ was on the first pairing?

I'm not even against trying to go all offense but why are you wasting 4mil on a backup goalie then?

Jun. 27, 2022 at 11:50 a.m.

mokumboi

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Well, the first three teams definitely pass with extreme prejudice.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.

Pens3lieve

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Hockey IQ

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Quoting: mokumboi

Well, the first three teams definitely pass with extreme prejudice.

Quoting: Pensman69

I’m not even sure a single team accepts any of those awful trades. The Edmonton one is an absolute joke, Ken Holland himself wouldn’t even pick up the phone.

Ik the values aren’t close… I’m just taking out my frustration with letang lol 😂

Jun. 27, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.

Pens3lieve

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Hockey IQ

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Quoting: JSEB93

Did you just say JJ was on the first pairing?

I'm not even against trying to go all offense but why are you wasting 4mil on a backup goalie then?

Husso is the 1B to Jarry but also Jarry insurance if Jarry gets letang syndrome and wants to much $$$

Jun. 27, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.

edeangel84

JimmyPaek

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Wow that’s a lot of unrealistic trades. If we don’t resign Tanger we will miss the playoffs. He must be paid

Jun. 27, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.

mpf1989

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Blackhawks would make that trade without having to eat half of Johnson's cap hit.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 1:11 p.m.

Pens3lieve

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Hockey IQ

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Quoting: edeangel84

Wow that’s a lot of unrealistic trades. If we don’t resign Tanger we will miss the playoffs. He must be paid

Mark madden and you are wrong on that one
The singular factor of Losing letang simply does not guarantee the penguins missing the playoffs
Period.

Jun. 27, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.

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DeadWingsv2

PlusMinus is stupid

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Hard pass from Detroit.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.

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aedoran

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Maniscalco has yet to prove he belongs in the AHL and Broz struggled in his first season at The University of Minnesota. Does that really seem fair? You have him in the 1st pair.

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Jun. 27, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.

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edeangel84

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

Mark madden and you are wrong on that one
The singular factor of Losing letang simply does not guarantee the penguins missing the playoffs
Period.

And REALISTICALLY who replaces him? Are you signing Klingberg to a similar AAV and for 6-7 years? I certainly am not in favor of that. If that doesn’t happen then are we looking for a trade to get a top pairing RHD? How do we pay for that knowing it’s going to cost everything we possibly have in the draft pick and prospect pool to even find someone?

Jun. 27, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.

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Pens3lieve

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Hockey IQ

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Quoting: edeangel84

I never have said once there is a viable letang replacement… I am proposing that the penguins might be better off spreading the wealth and getting younger and faster and more depth than giving a combined 15-18 million dollars to a couple of dudes for the next 3-5 years who are on the decline…

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