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Created by: TMLBRIAN

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 27, 2022

Published: Sep. 27, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Winnipeg has a lot of cap tied up in D and can use another C/Winger for their top 9. Montreal has the opposite problem.

Edmonton get a defensive dmen a very good bottom 6 centre and a 3rd. Montreal get an offensive dmen and a top 10 protected 1st.

Vegas get another top 9 forward on a good contract for a 2nd. (Maybe Drouin has to play 20-30 games first and show he he is healthy before this trade happens).

Montreal has a tonnnn of NHL forwards and not enough dmen. They get a few dmen here and some picks back. Dadonov should fetch a 2nd or so half retained at the deadline as well.

I know Montreal loves Evans. But they have so many forwards and if this gets them another first, I would be all in for it.

Thoughts?

Trades

MTL

DeMelo, Dylan

WPG

Dvorak, Christian

MTL

Barrie, Tyson
2023 1st round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

top 10 protected pick

EDM

Evans, Jake
Savard, David
2023 3rd round pick (MTL)

MTL

2024 2nd round pick (VGK)

VGK

Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Jonathan Drouin: $2,750,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$72,458,332	$1,132,500	$5,490,000	$10,041,668

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 4	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
	Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Ylönen, Jesse $880,833$880,833 RW, LW RFA - 1	Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Barrie, Tyson $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3	DeMelo, Dylan $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4

Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.

SupremeBone

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EDM can't afford that and, even if they could, I wouldn't make that trade. The 1st and Savard's extra year are the real killers.

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Sold!!. I'd love it if the Jets made that trade!!

Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:09 p.m.

Campabee

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I think the Winnipeg deal is fair

Montreal likely passes on Barrie at this point we need Savard and Evans more than Barrie. The D looks much better with Matheson-Savard, Harris/Edmundson-DeMelo, Guhle-Harris/Wideman than it does above.

Drouin is likely here until the deadline and Ylonen is likely Laval bound as a result

Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.

Poehling

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I would rather have Dvorak than DeMelo tbh
We traded a 1st and a 2nd for Dvorak
We ain’t trying to win so we won’t sell low on him

I would do that EDM trade because Barrie helps the tank and we get a 2023 1st RD pick. But on the other end, EDM could say Evans is one concussion away to retire. He got so many already. Savard is a good player tho but MTL signed him as a free agent, trading him a year and half after his signing isn’t good.

Drouin isn’t worth that, maybe a 3rd half retained but Drouin is so bad defensively coaches don’t like those players, despite the talent Drouin has

Oh and the line up you have above is really bad
Harris Wideman > Barron and Edmundson is really good

Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.

Windjammer

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Contrary to your description, the Jets need DeMelo as one of only 2 right shot defensemen and have no need for Dvorak. Easy no for Winnipeg.

Dvorak isn't good enough for the top 6, and can't beat out Lowry as 3C, so as a 4C he has little to no value to Winnipeg.

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.

TMLBRIAN

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Quoting: Windjammer

Contrary to your description, the Jets need DeMelo and have no need for Dvorak. Easy no for Winnipeg.

Dvorak isn't good enough for the top 6, and can't beat out Lowry as 3C, so as a 4C he has little to no value to Winnipeg.

He is a centre/winger. he can play on the wing in the top 9 also. The reason I traded DeMelo was because I don't see anyone taking Pionk or Dillon or Schmidt right now. 5 gurs making 3m+ on D for severals year is too many in my mind. Flipping DeMelo who is a good defensive 4/5 dmen for a middle 6 centre/winger would not be a bad idea.

Just my thoughts anyways

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Pionk has high trade value…. And Dillon and Schmidt probably have value too. Defenseman are different than forwards.

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.

Windjammer

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Yeah Dvorak, at that price just isn't appealing. Defenseman, especially right shot ones, are always more valuable to have around that average bottom 6 players. He's definitely not a middle 6 player.

Pionk won't be traded, but would definitely garner a lot of interest if on the market. You're way off the mark there. It's actually mind boggling that you think Dvorak has value, but Pionk doesn't.

A 3rd for Dvorak might work, but he's not valuable enough to pull a good defenseman in return.

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:02 p.m.

CD282

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Easy decline from Edmonton. A cap dump and an overpaid 4th liner doesn't get you a perennial 50 point defensemen and a 1st!!

Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:08 p.m.

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MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Windjammer

🤣

Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.

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SevenLeg

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

🤣

Dvorak definitely beats Lowry and it's not particularly close

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Sold!!. I'd love it if the Jets made that trade!!

There. Your turn. That trade is awful for the Jets.

Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Windjammer

I’d trade Dillon for him lol

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:39 p.m.

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ChevelsDayOff

They bought it

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yeah demelo makes other defensemen better, the jets need that especially with bowness bringing in new defensive systems. demelo’s value to the jets is higher than what people think. dvorak is a useful player but theres internal competition for the middle and bottom 6 too. i’m for the jets seeing what we have with the new systems and re-motivated players this year, what happens this season will have a huge impact for next. so i really dont expect the jets to give up assets for dvorak, who isnt someone thats gonna push the roster over the top

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Sep. 27, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: Isles5513

I’d trade Dillon for him lol

Yeah, that could work. The Jets just can't afford to give up a RHD for him.

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