Isles should not do that, should be keeping their 1st and Bolduc who looks like a stud and should be playing over Aho in the NHL soon enough.

OTT (ROR trade), Leafs trade, and NJ trade all seem like easy passes to me.

I don't think many teams wanted Binnington previously, and NJ would have a lot invested in net.

I agree with you. I also think it doesn’t make sense to propose trades that don’t work cap wise or in terms of roster spots.

Yes trade value is subjective, cap space is hard to come by. And yes Binnington is a psycho with a big cap hit. But this is the priority list of guys I'd look to trade if I were managing the Blues. I would think they could get good value for some of these guys. Tarasenko has 91 pts in his last 84 GP. ROR is only a few yrs removed from a Conn Smythe. Barbashev would be great at a cheap cost. The rest of them, probably a longshot but they're the guys that you could try to dispose of and move forward.

Trade value isn’t really subjective tbh

Who do the Blues have in the pipeline to replace JB? Blackwood is injury prone so wouldn't rely on him.

If the Islanders are in a strong playoff position at the deadline, and getting a scoring winger would theoretically put them over the top, I'd bite on this one. Although if Bolduc keeps up his PPG pace I'd rather make a substitution - either Salo/1st, or Bolduc/2nd for VT fully retained.

Lots of conditionals on that, sure, but there's a looooot of hockey left to be played.

Goalies are voodoo, they should try anyone that can put up .910 and do it for less than 6x5. Realistically, they could give Hofer or Ellis a look soon.



So the actual NHL trades that go through central registry, those are always the exact same value as the general consensus of the fans? Trade value is whatever some GM out there decides to pay.

You follow a league where a GM thought Adam Larsson and Taylor Hall were worth the same what are you talking about

Same holds true for NJ too though, no reason for them to spend 9m+ on goaltending.

They have to decide, at the very least, whether Barbashev/O'Reilly/Tarasenko are part of the picture moving forward. O'Reilly needs to play a lot better if he's going to be, he's looked terrible. They should have sold Barbashev last summer when he had just score 20. Tarasenko is playing really well, but does he want to stay? I think it's likely that you can't or don't want to keep any of the three, and if that's the case you have to sell them and get assets- young players, or picks- to transition this team to a younger core. Whether you actually use them or parlay them when you have cap space in the summer, whatever- that's the smart play. I have a hard time seeing anyone with term and trade protection other than maybe Saad having much interest around the league- that includes Parayko.

I don't think a long rebuild is necessarily required. I think Kyrou is better than we've seen. He's not going anywhere regardless. Thomas and Buchnevich look fine. Faulk looks good, though for how long who knows. The Leddy-Parayko period has made some gaffs but the underlying numbers are pretty strong, at least defensively, thus far. There's pieces here.

But they need to be aggressive. And that means making some unpleasant moves

Good point lol

STL needs 2 top pair caliber D. Right now they don’t have 1, so if they are going to make trades it should be for young defenseman with upside.

Yep and it will prove to be a massive challenge. Young d-men with two-way, top pair acumen might be the hardest thing to acquire in a trade, and they already have a ton of long-term money tied up with their current defensemen (and the no-trade clauses). Probably only going to happen through the draft.

TB says ty very much

The only two players I can think of worth acquiring in a trade are Ville Heinola from the jets or Samuel girard. Heinola has top pair upside, he’s worth the bet. Girard has had a few seasons with a top pair impact.

The 2023 draft isn’t a great draft for defenseman, not sure about 2024.

I really wanted the Blues to swing for Nils Lundkvist, who I'm still bullish on, but I never thought he would fetch a first. Jordan Spence is a good one that was thrown out in this AGM. I still like Ville Heinola. But it's tough. I think the ceiling on those guys is "fine top four defenseman". They would need to draft one, and this draft has basically no noteworthy defensemen of that caliber.

Yeah Lundkvist is a stud. Heinola reminds me of spurgeon, not saying he’ll reach that ceiling, but he’s a modern two way defenseman who consistently makes the right reads.

I missed the sandin trade on here, that would be the perfect target. TBH I would even give Oreilly + a few 2nds to make that happen.

Hyper-reactionary AGMs are my favorite. Yaaaay.

On one hand, blowing up the whole team is a 'sky-is-falling' overreaction. But on the other hand, you can't tell me that approaching this deadline with the status quo or continuing to push all the chips in with this squad is a well-thought-out plan. Somewhere in the middle seems right; for me that middle is finding new homes for VT, ROR, and Barby. Will be sad to see them go but our only hope at 1. acquiring some draft capital, 2. getting younger, and 3. finding a little cap flexibility. I know this wouldn't address the defense which seems to be a big problem, but it's tough to see a realistic path to re-shaping the D during this season/next.

Right, because the solution always comes to light at the absolute lowest period in years. The deadline is months away, we're talking about six games here. It's certainly not like they're playing to anywhere near their talent/experience or executing as a team out there right now. They're playing like garbage crap refuse. I would advise all my fellow Blues fans to climb down off the ledge and take a breath. Or 17. We're all of nine games into the season. This too shall pass.

You say any goalie that can put up a .910 like any beer league goalie can do it SMH

RoR and Parayko

I would definitely be interested as a Sens fan

Think Zaitsev would need to go the other way, for cap reasons

Six seasons of an up-and-coming Jordan Spence for less than a season of Niko Mikkola?

I don't think so, even if the second were a 2023.

Not close to enough for the big 4
Also la says no