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Theres No way to get Kane on this team

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Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2022
Published: Nov. 30, 2022
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  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
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2024
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22$82,500,000$74,343,334$0$4,732,500$8,156,666
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C, LW
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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C, RW
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
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UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
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RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,137,500$1,137,500
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$764,167$764,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 8:21 a.m.
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not impossible just hard. Two of Foligno , Reilly, or Smith would need to go. Obviously this would increase the cost but if the bruins keep playing like this, you don't worry about that because this year is all in. You need Kane at half retention though or you could get a third team to retain half as well
Nov. 30, 2022 at 8:29 a.m.
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There’s also just no need for him.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 8:29 a.m.
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Lysell + 23' first = Kane half retained
24' first = Reilly and Smith cap dumps.

That should be enough. Just need Kane to want to go to Boston.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 8:31 a.m.
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There is no reason to either. It’s a terrible fit and even worse idea. Which is why it came from Jimmy Murphy lol.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.
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I mean you can but it's gonna hurt and probably not worth it. Id go for a smaller fish that adds depth but is cheaper or a piece with some term.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 10:42 a.m.
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Seems doable so long as BOS is willing to pay to unload some of their cap burdens (Smith, Reilly, etc). I'm sure there are teams willing to take those contracts if BOS throws in some sweeteners.

As for "BOS doesn't need him," it takes a special kind of ignorance to declare in November that a team is all set for a championship run because they're crushing it in the regular season. Check out the playoff track record of Presidents Trophy winning teams.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
There’s also just no need for him.


yeah, who in their right minds would want to run out a top 6 of Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta and Hall-Krejci-Kane, or have a powerplay with Pastrnak/Kane/Bergeron/Marchand/McAvoy? not me, that's for sure!!
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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yeah, who in their right minds would want to run out a top 6 of Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta and Hall-Krejci-Kane, or have a powerplay with Pastrnak/Kane/Bergeron/Marchand/McAvoy? not me, that's for sure!!


What about my statement would lead you to think i don’t think kane would be good?

The bruins top six seems to be working pretty well. Spending all the trade assets/cap at a position that isn’t needed is pretty dumb.

Should the islanders be going after a starting goalie?
Nov. 30, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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Seems doable so long as BOS is willing to pay to unload some of their cap burdens (Smith, Reilly, etc). I'm sure there are teams willing to take those contracts if BOS throws in some sweeteners.

As for "BOS doesn't need him," it takes a special kind of ignorance to declare in November that a team is all set for a championship run because they're crushing it in the regular season. Check out the playoff track record of Presidents Trophy winning teams.


And it takes a special kind of stupidity to look at the bruins roster and think that top six RW is where an addition should be made.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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What about my statement would lead you to think i don’t think kane would be good?

The bruins top six seems to be working pretty well. Spending all the trade assets/cap at a position that isn’t needed is pretty dumb.

Should the islanders be going after a starting goalie?


Terrible analogy, seeing as how only one guy plays goalie every night while 12 forwards cycle on and off. Even if Boston's top 6 is playing well now, adding a top line winger means now you've got *three* lines that are big time scoring threats: Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta, Hall-Krejci-Kane, and Zacha-Coyle-DeBrusk. It means that now you're able to cycle guys in and out every night to keep everyone on an older team fresh for a hopefully deep playoff run. It means that you're not playing Tomas Nosek every night. It means you're an absolute matchup nightmare in the playoffs because almost no team has *two* shutdown D-pairs. It means you're adding yet another future HoFer to a team that already has, conservatively, three playing every night. It's miles different from adding another starting goalie to a team that already has a solid tandem.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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Terrible analogy, seeing as how only one guy plays goalie every night while 12 forwards cycle on and off. Even if Boston's top 6 is playing well now, adding a top line winger means now you've got *three* lines that are big time scoring threats: Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta, Hall-Krejci-Kane, and Zacha-Coyle-DeBrusk. It means that now you're able to cycle guys in and out every night to keep everyone on an older team fresh for a hopefully deep playoff run. It means that you're not playing Tomas Nosek every night. It means you're an absolute matchup nightmare in the playoffs because almost no team has *two* shutdown D-pairs. It means you're adding yet another future HoFer to a team that already has, conservatively, three playing every night. It's miles different from adding another starting goalie to a team that already has a solid tandem.



They’re already able to cycle guys in and out.
The bruins want nosek playing every night. He fits his role very well.
Maybe debrusk wouldn’t work if bumped down to the third. It works as is now.

Patrick kane would for sure make the team better, but the NHL has a salary cap, and teams have limited assets. There are other areas to address that are of more importance, and even better, they’re much cheaper to address.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 12:22 p.m.
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Let's simplify . . . Davidson has been asking for draft picks above prospects, and Elliot Friedman keeps insisting any Kane trade is likely to involve a 3rd team.

If there's a third team involved, Kane's hit goes down to $2.6; Assuming he takes the roster space of a league-minimum player, there's only an additional $1.8M or so to clear.

Kane for Bos 2023 and 2024 firsts. You can throw in a salary -- not sure who's most expendable. If it's a big salary, maybe there's a 2nd-tier prospect heading West, too.

Then, AZ or ANH or whoever gets a prospect or two to eat $2.6 in cap space (but only about half that in actual dollars).
Nov. 30, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
They’re already able to cycle guys in and out.
The bruins want nosek playing every night. He fits his role very well.
Maybe debrusk wouldn’t work if bumped down to the third. It works as is now.

Patrick kane would for sure make the team better, but the NHL has a salary cap, and teams have limited assets. There are other areas to address that are of more importance, and even better, they’re much cheaper to address.


is there really another area Boston needs to focus on? I get it's a long season and things change, but about a quarter way through they're 19-3-0 and have scored the most goals while allowing the fewest. There's really no holes on the current roster that need to get patched up - Swayman's up to .939 in his last 6 appearances, you've got tons of depth (Reilly/Stralman in the AHL, Craig Smith getting less than 10 minutes a night), so what's the small move?

I can standing pat - the roster, to date, has earned that faith. But I think that also puts them in the unique position to take a huuuuge swing at the deadline and put themselves as over the top Cup favorites. Kane would be that move, in my eyes.
Nov. 30, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.
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is there really another area Boston needs to focus on? I get it's a long season and things change, but about a quarter way through they're 19-3-0 and have scored the most goals while allowing the fewest. There's really no holes on the current roster that need to get patched up - Swayman's up to .939 in his last 6 appearances, you've got tons of depth (Reilly/Stralman in the AHL, Craig Smith getting less than 10 minutes a night), so what's the small move?

I can standing pat - the roster, to date, has earned that faith. But I think that also puts them in the unique position to take a huuuuge swing at the deadline and put themselves as over the top Cup favorites. Kane would be that move, in my eyes.


Well, there’s a couple things at work there.

The first is that we know that this configuration works. Marchand - Bergeron - Debrusk has really worked for about 60 games now. What if Kane doesn’t work with those two guys? Hockey is weird, and it isn’t as simple as “good player+good player+good player=good line.”

The second is that it’s going to cost so much, both in terms of cap and assets that it would mean the bruins would have to sacrifice depth.

Personally, I would rather keep Reilly in the minors as insurance. Kind of doing him dirty, but it might pay off. Then I think move Smith out with assets to get some guy that plays really heavy for the third line. Now that the goals have dried up, I wonder if Tanner Jeannot could be had. Maybe Derek Grant, Garnet Hathaway, Someone like that.

I don’t think drastically changing the top end of the lineup is the right way to go.
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Nov. 30, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.
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is there really another area Boston needs to focus on? I get it's a long season and things change, but about a quarter way through they're 19-3-0 and have scored the most goals while allowing the fewest. There's really no holes on the current roster that need to get patched up - Swayman's up to .939 in his last 6 appearances, you've got tons of depth (Reilly/Stralman in the AHL, Craig Smith getting less than 10 minutes a night), so what's the small move?

I can standing pat - the roster, to date, has earned that faith. But I think that also puts them in the unique position to take a huuuuge swing at the deadline and put themselves as over the top Cup favorites. Kane would be that move, in my eyes.


Let's say he's more a luxury they don't need. Between the (double?) retention and the crazy price, Bruins can probably find another two-way player who will cost them less. They need to improve the bottom-6 more than the top-6.
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